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Old 12-02-2011, 08:19 AM   #101
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And another point I wanna make is do you guys think it is a coincidence Forest Lawn has high crime rate?

Do you guys not realize the government dumped several hundred refugees and immigrants into Forest Lawn and Dover over 40 years ago and it's still happening today? I recieve monthly cheques from the government to pay for my tenants who are refugees...not a coincidence.

And this isn't a thing that just started 5 years ago, it started over 35 years ago and is still happening today.

Anytime there is a war in another country and Canada brings in immigrants to Calgary to save them from war where do you think they dump them? Forest Lawn and Dover that's where. There is a huge problem in Edmonton right now in certain neighborhoods with black refugess...is it a coincidence they mostly all live in the same neighborhood?

The only reason I am here is because Canada brought my dad and mom here from Lebanon over 30+ years ago. Now some people like my dad worked hard started a business and succeeded here while others ran into huge culture shock and couldn't fit in and had to resort to crime to make a living.

Not blaming the government because frankly they should be applauded for the help they give people in war torn countries, but just my perspective onto why these neighborhoods are having problems and will continue to have problems.
Absolutely, and as they start to get more of a comfortable living situation, they have moved on to places like Temple,Pineridge,Castleridge etc... I wish the visible minorities would spread out more across the city, but if this thread is any indication as to how they would be treated in othe more affluent communities, I can see why they tend to stick together.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:23 AM   #102
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Honestly, I'd rather live in Temple or a like neighborhood than be surrounded by soccer moms.

Unless they put out.
Soccer moms always put out . . . a nice plate of orange wedges at practice.
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:02 PM   #103
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Absolutely, and as they start to get more of a comfortable living situation, they have moved on to places like Temple,Pineridge,Castleridge etc... I wish the visible minorities would spread out more across the city, but if this thread is any indication as to how they would be treated in othe more affluent communities, I can see why they tend to stick together.
They need to move to Sunnyside, Hillhurst, and Inglewood. These are the among the least diverse neighborhoods in the City...

Visibile Minorities % (Immigrant Population%) for select neighbourhoods:

City Average 23.7 (24.8)
Temple 40.2 (32.5)
Forest Lawn 21.1 (20.0)
Panorama 52.6 (41.7)
Castleridge 53.3 (38.7)
Mount Royal 17.8
Inglewood 6.8 (12.7)
Sunnyside 9.8 (12.4)
Hillhurst 11.7 (16.6)
Britania 8.3
Cougar Ridge 24.7 (28.4)
New Brighton 19.5 (18.8)
Tuscany 16.2 (18.5)
Aspen Woods 23.7 (25.8)
Marlborough 36.4 (33.0)
Rocky Ridge 18.0 (22.5)
Beltline 25.3 (31.3)
Chaparral 10.4 (17.2)
Renfrew 13.2 (18.2)

http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/CNS/Pages...-Profiles.aspx

^ BTW, I was not trying to prove anything above, just curious how various areas stack up.

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Old 12-02-2011, 02:11 PM   #104
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Firstly, I grew up in Temple, spent 23 years in the same house, and had exactly 0 crime incidents. If you want to be a global citizen, it was a good place to learn about cultures as my friends were from all over the globe. My child is now growing up in a predominantly white area, and I really feel badly for him and will work hard to ensure that he develops a cultural sensitivity which is severely lacking in this thread. While many of you mock the NE, in an era of global uncertainty and shifting political landscapes, you might be surprised at just how useful such a background might be if your definition of success moves beyond transient metrics brought about by the anomalous economic situation spurred by oil and gas. Many of my minority friends in Temple have gone on to do amazing things with their lives, be it professors, doctors, accountants, bankers, film makers, in several cases via Ivy League schools. Incidentally expanding a bit further, our mayor would be one of those, as I believe he grew up in Marlborough. Sure, these may be exceptions to the rule, but I would argue that in many cases (including my own) success is fostered by adversity.

Secondly, these numbers are meaningless without correcting for population, so the only ones that can really be compared are similar sized areas with equivalent density (such as Whitehorn, Temple, Rundle, and Pineridge). Temple actually does pretty well compared to the rest of its peer-neighbourhoods, so clearly the string of incidents reported by the OP is likely a statistical aberration.

Thirdly, population density and rental properties do make a difference in these metrics, and while I don't know what the exact distributions are, I would guess that the properties and similar areas do have higher density and more rentals. I think Calgary would be a much better place if this was the same throughout the city, however too many of the 'not in my backyard types' are little bit too sensitive and xenophobic for this to their detriment.

I don't get irritated by a lot of threads, but it would be nice if statements and conclusions were once in a while justified on actual quantitative data.

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These N.E. communities will one day re-gain pride in themselves, due to the proximity of them to the downtown core.
In other words, once gentrification starts. The rich move in, the poor trash get pushed to an outlying neighbourhood.

Which isn't going to happen for a long time in Temple, only people in Saddleridge would think Temple is close to the downtown core.
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:38 PM   #106
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I think the reason why Panorama has such a high percentage of minority people living there is because if one family moves there, their family will also move there. Everyone just likes to live near each other I guess haha.
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Panorama Hills - 129
That number may seem high, but we have to consider the fact Panorama is now Calgary's biggest community with 20000+ people I believe. It's bigger than Tuscany and Edgemont for sure now.
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:21 PM   #108
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In other words, once gentrification starts. The rich move in, the poor trash get pushed to an outlying neighbourhood.

Which isn't going to happen for a long time in Temple, only people in Saddleridge would think Temple is close to the downtown core.
I grew up in Rundle, and even today when I go back to the neighborhood I can be downtown in 10-15 minutes in average traffic. For Calgary that's pretty frickin close to the downtown core. Temple would be another 5-10 minutes, but relative to a lot of areas it's an easy commute. Add in the large lots and mature landscaping and I wouldn't be surprised to see the area rise up a bit in the next 20 years or so.
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They need to move to Sunnyside, Hillhurst, and Inglewood. These are the among the least diverse neighborhoods in the City...

Visibile Minorities % (Immigrant Population%) for select neighbourhoods:

City Average 23.7 (24.8)
Temple 40.2 (32.5)
Forest Lawn 21.1 (20.0)
Panorama 52.6 (41.7)
Castleridge 53.3 (38.7)
Mount Royal 17.8
Inglewood 6.8 (12.7)
Sunnyside 9.8 (12.4)
Hillhurst 11.7 (16.6)
Britania 8.3
Cougar Ridge 24.7 (28.4)
New Brighton 19.5 (18.8)
Tuscany 16.2 (18.5)
Aspen Woods 23.7 (25.8)
Marlborough 36.4 (33.0)
Rocky Ridge 18.0 (22.5)
Beltline 25.3 (31.3)
Chaparral 10.4 (17.2)
Renfrew 13.2 (18.2)

http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/CNS/Pages...-Profiles.aspx

^ BTW, I was not trying to prove anything above, just curious how various areas stack up.
Ahhh! Damn the influx of wealthy Chinese neighbours! Aspen is the new Temple!
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:12 PM   #110
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That number may seem high, but we have to consider the fact Panorama is now Calgary's biggest community with 20000+ people I believe. It's bigger than Tuscany and Edgemont for sure now.
20,000 people living in Panorama? That is a lot of criminals! Man, Calgary has a BAD crime problem. I changed my mind on police funding. We need another station up there to show that we as Calgarians aren't going to stand for this!
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Crime rates adjusted for population. Rate of violations per 10,000 inhabitants.

Area Rate
Marlborough - 552
Forest Lawn- 417
Penbrook - 252
Pineridge - 245
MarlboroughPark 244
Rundle - 228
Castleridge - 228
Falconridge - 223
Whitehorn - 180
Temple - 178
Copperfield- 111
Bridgeland- 106
Auburn Bay- 91
Rocky Ridge- 80
Panorama Hills - 78
Valley Ridge- 78
Royal Oak- 75
New Brighton- 68
Tuscany- 48
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This is interesting, but why are the crimes that occur in Temple more newsworthy than other communities?
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Temple strikes again...

http://www.660news.com/news/local/article/370593--22-year-old-in-life-threatening-condition-after-reports-of-gunshots-in-the-ne
Calgary Police are looking into a shooting that happened in the northeast Wednesday night.

Officers were called to the 200 block of Temple Close, N.E. around 7 p.m. after reports of gunshots fired.


Duty Inspector Paul Stacey tells 660News, it appears a 22-year-old man may have been hit with some bullets.


Stacey says the man remains in life threatening condition and believes he drove himself to the Peter Lougheed Centre a short time later.


Police have cordoned off the scene in Temple, where they believe the shooting took place.


They are trying to figure out if the shooting is gang-related, but police say there is nothing to indicate it is.

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Old 06-07-2012, 05:24 AM   #114
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Trick question?

In all seriousness I used to live in Whitehorn. On kiddy corner to Temple. It just felt real. We walked to school at 7.

You guys are funny.

EDIT: You live in one of the safest cities, of one of the safest countries, IN THE SAFEST PERIOD IN HISTORY...

Whine, bitch, cry...
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I lived in Temple for over 20 years. Never had a problem. Used to walk to 7-11 and Comic Quest on a daily basis
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I lived in Temple for over 20 years. Never had a problem. Used to walk to 7-11 and Comic Quest on a daily basis
Exactly!....Not the safest place in Calgary, but not even close to the "horrors" everybody keeps saying....you can easily walk through this neighborhood without freaking out......
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Did I not say the same thing more succinctly?

You guys are getting a Temple Sub beat down!
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I lived in Temple for 24 years. It was a great place to grow up and I never had to take the school bus! Now I'm living in Whitehorn Estate aka Chestermere.
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