06-06-2012, 11:47 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by Dion
Telling people they can't cheer when thier son or daughter graduates is a bit extreme.
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Would you cheer at a wedding before the ceremony is over?
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06-06-2012, 11:52 AM
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#42
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by troutman
Would you cheer at a wedding before the ceremony is over?
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I would say it is more than that.
Would you cheer at the end of your friends ceremony (regardless of how special he/she is), knowing that another ceremony is taking place the second yours ends and that by yelling you are ruining the other people's ceremony?
EDIT: I guess you said before the ceremony is over. Yeah that works.
To me this whole thing is just an example of people thinking that their own situation is special and therefore they don't have to follow the rules. It shows a complete lack of respect for any of the people whose families don't even get to hear their child's name when he is called because some other people thought their kid deserved special treatment.
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06-06-2012, 11:57 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
I don't feel I deserved my diploma more than any of my classmates. As I said, getting good grades was something that came easy to me (and many others I knew at the time). I didn't study hard or work my ass off or make any kind of effort beyond the absolute minimum required (completing assignments on time). I rarely did homework unless it was mandatory and we were being graded on it. I was a huge slacker in high school yet still made the honour list, graduated in the top 10% of my class, and was accepted to my first choice university with a scholarship.
So how was my "achievement" in any way more deserving than the guy who really struggled academically and had to work his butt off just to get a 60% passing grade? I had a friend who was absolutely brilliant at the technical and vocational courses (shop, wood working, metal working, auto mechanics, etc.) but stuggled in the more academic-oriented classes (math, science, history, etc.) despite studying much harder than I ever did. He even failed grade 12 English -- a course that was mandatory for graduation -- twice. His parents had to hire a private tutor for him just so he could complete HS. If there's anyone who deserves special recognition for graduating high school (an "achievement" that is all but meaningless, IMO), it's people like him who really had to push themselves just to meet the minimum standards.
I was a huge slacker in HS, but you think I should have received special, personalized recognition at a dinner party because academic achievement came easily to me. Meanwhile, my friend worked harder than most of our graduating class just to get the minimum passing grade in a few mandatory courses, but you don't think he's "worthy" of the same recognition?
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It is just a difference of opinions and I respect your opinion. Maybe the HS I went to factors into the way I think. Your friend is definitely deserving but there are not too many people like that IMO.
But then again, why even have a difference between Math 30 and Math 33. I am sure there are people like you have described above in both types of classes but a difference in their prestige exists no?
As I said, I respect your opinion but I think we are trying to really spoon feed kids now and don't get me wrong as I am only 3 years removed from graduating. I just think getting a diploma shouldn't be a given.
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06-06-2012, 12:08 PM
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#44
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Keep the celebration down to a reasonable cheer and move along. Theres 500 kids that have to cross that stage and nobody wants to be there. Not one kid will tell you that they've been looking forward to it. The thing already takes 3+ hours, just let the kid cross the stage as quickly as possible and move along because absolutely no one really wants to be there.
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06-06-2012, 12:10 PM
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Scoring Winger
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This deserves a Picard Facepalm. Stupid S.C. and their stupid ways.
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06-06-2012, 12:16 PM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Dont want to be a racist, but i think we all know how loud big black women can be.
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06-06-2012, 12:34 PM
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#47
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I cheered at my dad's convocation. He graduated university with honours while raising 4 kids and keeping a number of part time jobs to keep the family fed. I thought it was worth a cheer.
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06-06-2012, 12:38 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I would say it is more than that.
Would you cheer at the end of your friends ceremony (regardless of how special he/she is), knowing that another ceremony is taking place the second yours ends and that by yelling you are ruining the other people's ceremony?
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I don't remember it that way. It's not like the guy is reading names without any time between them. It takes time to cross the stage, you can cheer without stealing the next person's thunder.
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06-06-2012, 01:10 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by Lt.Spears
Dont want to be a racist, but i think we all know how loud big black women can be.
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Racist, sexist and size-ist.
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06-06-2012, 01:20 PM
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#50
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Originally Posted by V
I don't remember it that way. It's not like the guy is reading names without any time between them. It takes time to cross the stage, you can cheer without stealing the next person's thunder.
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My parents cheered when us 3 kids graduated from college or university. By the time we got out diplomas they were done and the next name was called.
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06-06-2012, 01:22 PM
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Dont want to be a racist, but
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Seeing this phrase is a guarantee that something racist is about to follow.
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06-06-2012, 01:24 PM
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#52
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Originally Posted by troutman
Would you cheer at a wedding before the ceremony is over?
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I don't cheer at weddings or any other type events.
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06-06-2012, 01:25 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by fotze
Real wording of this rule: Black families should act more white.
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Her daughters name is Iesha...they should have known that wasn't going to happen.
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06-06-2012, 01:36 PM
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#54
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Seeing this phrase is a guarantee that something racist is about to follow.
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Racist but true.
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06-06-2012, 02:46 PM
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It is a shame it has come to the point where cheering is banned. The blame for this however does not lie with the schools, but rather the countless morons that have no consideration for others.
Yeah, it is great showing your support for your kid, but behaving like complete jackasses and drowning out the announcement of the subsequent person to graduate and screwing up their day just makes you look like a twat. That is a situation where no one wins and it is too bad rules need to be brought in to enforce what should just be respectful behaviour.
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06-06-2012, 02:55 PM
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#56
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Originally Posted by Barnet Flame
It is a shame it has come to the point where cheering is banned. The blame for this however does not lie with the schools, but rather the countless morons that have no consideration for others.
Yeah, it is great showing your support for your kid, but behaving like complete jackasses and drowning out the announcement of the subsequent person to graduate and screwing up their day just makes you look like a twat. That is a situation where no one wins and it is too bad rules need to be brought in to enforce what should just be respectful behaviour.
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And thats basically it. If it wasnt getting out of hand we wouldnt be in this situation.
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06-06-2012, 03:02 PM
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Story 1 with being warned not to cheer or you will be escorted and if you do not cooperate, you will be arrested makes perfect sense. These things will take 10 hours if every parent cheers and there is a delay in between graduates.
Story 2 is very extreme....community service, give me a break. Punishing someone who had nothing to do with the act is even worse.
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06-06-2012, 08:17 PM
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#58
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Uncle Chester
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The mom should get the 20 hours of community service for sporting that 'turrible weave'.
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06-06-2012, 09:01 PM
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#59
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater
You're kidding right. Being a proud parent is against the law now? Why is this even a rule and what gives them the right to make that a rule?
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No I am not kidding, stupid rule or not they were still warned ahead of time. unfortunately them making the rules gives them the right. Besides,you can only be proud if your loud?
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06-07-2012, 10:54 PM
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#60
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Not a casual user
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Originally Posted by Zethrynn
No I am not kidding, stupid rule or not they were still warned ahead of time. unfortunately them making the rules gives them the right. Besides,you can only be proud if your loud?
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Grad ceremonies have been going on for ages and it's only now that people are complaining. If it was such a big issue why wasn't cheering and clapping banned years ago?
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