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Old 03-07-2006, 02:12 PM   #41
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So if Brokeback mountain has gay cowboys...

And the Sutter brothers are cowboys...

Would you feel different about D. Sutter if he was gay?

I think he would still scare me. Maybe even more than he does now.

But I would still love him.
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:15 PM   #42
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So if Brokeback mountain has gay cowboys...

And the Sutter brothers are cowboys...

Would you feel different about D. Sutter if he was gay?

I think he would still scare me. Maybe even more than he does now.

But I would still love him.
As a player, it would still probably be better to be on Sutter's backside than his bad side.
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:18 PM   #43
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There are many who think ALL cowboy movies back through time, those with a buddy theme anyway like a couple of guys roaming the ole praireeee, are actually GAY themed anyway.

Its just that you get to see the sex and the kissing this time.

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Old 03-07-2006, 03:04 PM   #44
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Oh BS! It just pees me off when someone says because I dont want to watch a gay movie or TV show that it is a homophobic reaction or because Im afraid I will turn gay.
Personally Im sick and tired of the proliferation of Gay TV, Gay Commercials, Gay everything. It has nothing to do with being anti gay. Less than 10% of the population is Gay yet it appears as though 50% of all movies, TV shows or commercials require a Gay person in it. We get it already, and weve given rights to be whatever you want to be....but 90% of us dont care and dont wanna be. We LOVE the opposite sex.
Who gives a flying fart about Gays and what they do, except Gays?
I work with Gay Architects and Interior Designers and quite frankly they dont represent what is shown in the mainstream media anyways....Im sure thats typical to CPs friend MRCBiology.
Yes, because TV is an accurate representation of the real world . TV always has attractive people. Only 10% of people are attractive, so those attractives can cram it up their ass! Only 23% of people are funny, yet TV is full of funny people! Where do they get off? And black people, I've seen like 2 today, but there is shows with whole families of them! And where is the natives? I saw 5 of them under the train tracks on my way back to work. And why do people's offices always look so cool on TV? My office isn't like that. And honestly, does EVERYONE drive new cars?



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Old 03-07-2006, 03:39 PM   #45
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To be fair cheese, if 10% of people are gay, and the average show has 10 or more people in it (which seems likely when you include bit characters) then it is more likely than not that 50% of shows would have gay people in them.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:21 PM   #46
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If I were you I'd see it in the theatre. The scenery of Alberta on the big screen is positively breathtaking.
See that really doesn't sell me on it as I've climbed a few mountains in my time and see that same scenery on the real "big screen"
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:26 PM   #47
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Personally Im sick and tired of the proliferation of Gay TV, Gay Commercials, Gay everything. It has nothing to do with being anti gay.
Personally I can't think of a single gay commercial and the only two gay tv shows I can think of have been cancelled. There are far more crime scene investigators on TV than gay characters, I'm sure of it.

Oh wait Six Feet Under has a gay couple. That's one.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:50 PM   #48
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Personally I can't think of a single gay commercial and the only two gay tv shows I can think of have been cancelled. There are far more crime scene investigators on TV than gay characters, I'm sure of it.

Oh wait Six Feet Under has a gay couple. That's one.
think every home decorating show...every restaraunt makeover...coffee commercials...hair commercials...

Desperate Housewives which has a gay son
Hot Properties ex husband gay
Crumbs gay screenwriter
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy
Queer Eye For The Straight Girl
Out of Practice lesbian daughter
Kitchen Confidential
Arrested Development
Will & Grace
ER
The L Word


those are just a few off the top of my head...but I dont care...really...
I do care when someone suggests Im a homophobe or a closet gay because I dont want to watch the movie. Thats a joke IMHO.
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C3P0 was clearly gay. Data too (look at how neat his personal grooming habits were). I suspect #6 is at least Bi. That's just greedy as far as I'm concerned.

Sci fi is very progressive when it comes to robots sleeping around.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:24 PM   #50
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Personally I can't think of a single gay commercial
That Carnation Coffee-Mate commercial with Josee Chounaird and those two guys is pretty gay. I'm sure you've seen it. Apparently EVERYONE just HAS to try this new caramel-whatever-it-is.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:41 PM   #51
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think every home decorating show...every restaraunt makeover...coffee commercials...hair commercials...

Desperate Housewives which has a gay son
Hot Properties ex husband gay
Crumbs gay screenwriter
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy
Queer Eye For The Straight Girl
Out of Practice lesbian daughter
Kitchen Confidential
Arrested Development
Will & Grace
ER
The L Word


those are just a few off the top of my head...but I dont care...really...
I do care when someone suggests Im a homophobe or a closet gay because I dont want to watch the movie. Thats a joke IMHO.
Well clearly what is going on here is that anyone who doesn't watch all of those shows is a bigoted homophobe. Anyone who does watch them is queer as a 3 dollar bill. Anyone who does watch but says they don't is a closeted homosexual. Anyone who watches just one or two of them is a bisexual. Anyone who watches 4 of them but is married is a closeted bixexual . Anyone who watches all of them but is married but says they don't watch them is a closted bigoted bisexual homophobe.

Really though I've only heard of half of those shows you listed and I don't watch any of them. Maybe if I did it would seem like pink is the new black to me as well. I still haven't seen any gay commercials. Come to think of it I havent even seen the movie this whole thing is about. I must be a homophobe as well. Or maybe I'm just cheap.

You know what else I am? Homophonic. That's why you won't ever see me use the words "Knight" or "Yore". Kinda ruins a whole genre for me, now that you mention it.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:49 PM   #52
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Okay I don't plan to see the movie and a few things on this thread have kind of made me laugh and kind of made me wonder.

1) Perhaps a lot of people (myself included) don't care if this movie is about gay cowboys. Maybe we don't want to see it for the same reason that we didn't go see the English Patient, or any other movie about some romantic love story.
I think that's fair. A lot of people just don't like the genre. Actually, I'm not too big on it either. I didn't see Titanic for years for of the same reason.

I am buying into the hype of this movie though. I heard it makes you think, and that is all I really want from a film most of the time.
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Old 03-08-2006, 08:25 AM   #53
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What, you didn't go see Titanic for a long time?
Why do you hate sailors?
Or was it that you were afraid that if you saw it you would become a sailor?

See everyone, the closet gay idea is incredibly valid and makes perfect sense.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:18 AM   #54
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...hard for me to believe that during the 60's cowboys out in hick towns in the middle of buttfcuk nowhere (pardon the pun lol) where practising homosexuality...
Uh, isn't that the point of the movie?
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Old 03-08-2006, 11:14 AM   #55
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Oh BS! It just pees me off when someone says because I dont want to watch a gay movie or TV show that it is a homophobic reaction or because Im afraid I will turn gay.
Personally Im sick and tired of the proliferation of Gay TV, Gay Commercials, Gay everything. It has nothing to do with being anti gay. Less than 10% of the population is Gay yet it appears as though 50% of all movies, TV shows or commercials require a Gay person in it. We get it already, and weve given rights to be whatever you want to be....but 90% of us dont care and dont wanna be. We LOVE the opposite sex.
Who gives a flying fart about Gays and what they do, except Gays?
I work with Gay Architects and Interior Designers and quite frankly they dont represent what is shown in the mainstream media anyways....Im sure thats typical to CPs friend MRCBiology.
But this movie isn't your typical Hollywood "Gay everything". The two characters were cowboys who had a very secret romance. It wasn't like an episode of Will and Grace, which I personally find stupid. The characters were not like David Fischer in Six Feet Under, who is basically a whiny baby wuss. These were your typical cowboys from the Western Plains to everyone they associated with. If you don't want to see it because you think it might be like the other main stream homosexual stuff you see on tv, your avoiding it for the wrong reason. Its a great movie. Ang Lee did a great job.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:37 AM   #56
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2) I don't think there is anything too new about this movie. Oooh, a forbidden love, that's really nothing new, it's just a rehash of Romeo and Juliete (Except I assume they don't die in the end). There have been a lot of movies like this, just substitue, a white woman and black man 100 years ago, or an english princess an a commone dude in 16th century england, or a Jew and a Muslim. BUt because this is a gay forbidden love it is suddenly big new thing.
Here's something that may shock you:

There's probably like 5 different stories ever if you want to boil it down that far.

Here's something else that may shock you:

A new take on an old theme ... draws attention!

Brokeback Mountain isn't "Romeo & Juliet....but gay!" Nor is Romeo & Juliet the first ever forbidden love story.
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:48 AM   #57
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C3P0 was clearly gay. Data too (look at how neat his personal grooming habits were). I suspect #6 is at least Bi. That's just greedy as far as I'm concerned.

Sci fi is very progressive when it comes to robots sleeping around.
LOL. It's so true.

Gay Cowboys got nuthin' on Femm-Metal.
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:55 AM   #58
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Comon People, there is soooooooooooooooo many better things to DO with your life then sit on your couch and watch GAY cowboy movies? I am in alberta right? not san-francisco?
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PS. Since when was it a bad thing to be a "homophobe"?
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PS. Since when was it a bad thing to be a "homophobe"?
Good point, I wish I could openly hate black people, and the jews.
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