Yeah I'm being careful when looking at the thread, and I've accidentally spoiled a few things already when reading the wiki about some episodes, and I don't feel I enjoy the show less when I've had something spoiled but still I should probably just ignore this thread for a while since it's becoming a "Lost series" discussion.
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A lot of that show has pretty much faded for me. But its a prime illustration of a show where the writers got completely lost because it went about 2 seasons too long, and then they made up mythology as they went along.
I remember one interveiw about a two seasons in where one of the witers swore up and down that it had nothing to do with pergatory, or the castaways being dead or in a state of flux. And sure enough in the end it had all of those elements.
I think you have to be really careful with the whole we need a shocking mythology moment in every episode type of show.
the biggest problem with lost is that it traps you as a viewer. If you miss a couple of episodes your completely screwed.
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I think Lost started as a show wanting to be about the mythology, but when it go so huge so fast they shifted the focus of the show to being more about the characters than the mysteries of the show. In essence they turned to island from this mysterious and unknown place into a MacGuffin plot device. Season 1 starts off so ridiculously strong, maybe the stongest first season of any show ever, and just fades and fades, and I really stopped caring by season 4.
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I think Lost started as a show wanting to be about the mythology, but when it go so huge so fast they shifted the focus of the show to being more about the characters than the mysteries of the show. In essence they turned to island from this mysterious and unknown place into a MacGuffin plot device. Season 1 starts off so ridiculously strong, maybe the stongest first season of any show ever, and just fades and fades, and I really stopped caring by season 4.
I disagree, I think the opposite. In the beginning, yes there were mythological unknowns, but they would slowly get explained with real world explanations. Toward the end of the show that stopped happening.
I think the flashbacks in the first few seasons lead to some of the strongest character development, that also shifted in the final seasons.
I watched it straight through, loved it. However, my point of contention isn't how it ended, but the shift from real world to mythology.
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A lot of that show has pretty much faded for me. But its a prime illustration of a show where the writers got completely lost because it went about 2 seasons too long, and then they made up mythology as they went along.
I remember one interveiw about a two seasons in where one of the witers swore up and down that it had nothing to do with pergatory, or the castaways being dead or in a state of flux. And sure enough in the end it had all of those elements.
I think you have to be really careful with the whole we need a shocking mythology moment in every episode type of show.
the biggest problem with lost is that it traps you as a viewer. If you miss a couple of episodes your completely screwed.
And they were right. I'm not sure what your point was there. It had nothing to do with being a in a purgatory or any of those other things. Everything that happened on the island, happened in current time/real life, whatever you want to call it. They were addressing the theory that everything happening on the Island was purgatory and the idea that all the characters had already died.
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Written to cater to those with this shortest of attention spans.
I am guessing you've never visited a Lost fan forum before? You couldn't be more wrong. In fact, the ridiculous depth and symbolism inherent in the show suggests the exact opposite. If it were a monster-of-the-week or procedural show, you might have a point, but for a long-running serial like Lost you're completely incorrect.
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I am guessing you've never visited a Lost fan forum before? You couldn't be more wrong. In fact, the ridiculous depth and symbolism inherent in the show suggests the exact opposite. If it were a monster-of-the-week or procedural show, you might have a point, but for a long-running serial like Lost you're completely incorrect.
He's got a point though. Just wait till this show is off the year for a couple years. No way the ADD masses will still be discussing the show or its finale.
I loved Lost even after it started going downhill (filler episodes, unexplained story lines going nowhere etc), but once they entered the temple the show went from "im loving this" to "what the hell is this and why am i still watching." Temple people, Sayid drowning/not drowning, jacob and his brother, the cave with the light and the ending was so laughably bad it soured the whole show for me.
I loved Lost even after it started going downhill (filler episodes, unexplained story lines going nowhere etc), but once they entered the temple the show went from "im loving this" to "what the hell is this and why am i still watching." Temple people, Sayid drowning/not drowning, jacob and his brother, the cave with the light and the ending was so laughably bad it soured the whole show for me.
When did the time travel stuff start, that's when I started to like the show from love it.
Unless it's Back to the Future time travel is so easy to do poorly, and I don't think Lost did it well at all.
The interviewer just like so many Lost viewers didn't understand the fact that what happened on the island and elsewhere, actually happened. Lindelhof corrected him on it. It wasn't a dream, and it wasn't purgatory.
It would of been impossible to end a show with as many intricate story lines and characters as Lost had , pleasing everyone. I think it was done as good as a hugely successful show can do it.
The interviewer just like so many Lost viewers didn't understand the fact that what happened on the island and elsewhere, actually happened. Lindelhof corrected him on it. It wasn't a dream, and it wasn't purgatory.
It would of been impossible to end a show with as many intricate story lines and characters as Lost had , pleasing everyone. I think it was done as good as a hugely successful show can do it.
What's incredible is how Lindelof spells it out so clearly in this interview that what happened on the island was not purgatory and people in this thread and on the internet still can't grasp that or just didn't listen to the interview but decided to comment on the show.
When did the time travel stuff start, that's when I started to like the show from love it.
Unless it's Back to the Future time travel is so easy to do poorly, and I don't think Lost did it well at all.
I actually loved how they used some of the time travel stuff, mostly the Desmond/Faraday storylines. "The Constant" is one of my top five favorite episodes from the show. Even my brother who always had it in for the show (since he was a Buffy fan), thought this was a great episode.
However, most of Dharma Imitative season five did not work for me. I also agree with Flame of Liberty that the episodes in the temple were a giant waste of time, and the first portion of season six was almost entirely comprised of filler episodes. By the time they got down to the last few episodes a lot of it seemed rushed (like the confrontation between Jack and Man in Black/Locke). Heck they killed off everyone from the temple anyway, so essentially they were just different version of Nikki/Paulo.
Lost is 1-2 with The X-Files in terms of network dramas for me. Lost has more top notch episodes, while X-Files was able to sustain a great series for over 6 years and many more episodes.
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When did the time travel stuff start, that's when I started to like the show from love it.
Unless it's Back to the Future time travel is so easy to do poorly, and I don't think Lost did it well at all.
That's pretty much the opposite from me. I loved the time travel episodes. I felt that that was when Lost embraced its sci-fi roots completely. I loved the reveal of how Locke wasn't special in the least and that the smoke monster began to use him decades before he was even born. The whole compass thing finally dawning on me. Then the episode where John dies -- The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham, one of my favorite episodes of the entire series . . . man, I miss Locke. One of the most tragic characters in network TV history, IMO.
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