North Carolina passes same-sex marriage ban

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by valo403

It's not people you run away from, it's facts.

Want Mikey to exit a thread, present him with cold hard facts to counter his position. He'll take off faster than Wiley Coyote on his rocket powered roller skates.

Bull.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Bull.

hey this guy had a question:

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Sorry, but this was asked earlier, but might have been missed:

CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE STUDY SUPPORTING THIS STATEMENT?

Thanks.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Bull.

Ok smartguy, here's your task. You made a claim that homosexuals are promiscuous. You were challenged to provide supporting evidence to back up this claim so readers can verify that it's not just something you pulled out of your ass. You have so far failed completely to link to any studies that indicate the average homosexual is more promiscuous than the average heterosexual. If you want to prove that you don't run away from conversations, go ahead and link to a peer-reviewed study on human sexual behaviour that supports your contention that gays sleep around more than straights.

I'm waiting.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Ok smartguy, here's your task. You made a claim that homosexuals are promiscuous. You were challenged to provide supporting evidence to back up this claim so readers can verify that it's not just something you pulled out of your ass. You have so far failed completely to link to any studies that indicate the average homosexual is more promiscuous than the average heterosexual. If you want to prove that you don't run away from conversations, go ahead and link to a peer-reviewed study on human sexual behaviour that supports your contention that gays sleep around more than straights.

I'm waiting.

double entendre???

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Sure: any pair of consenting adults has the right to marry. It works for everybody: heterosexual couples who want children, heterosexual couples who don't want (or can't have) children, homosexual couples who want children, and homsexual couples who don't want children. Perfect!

Except, it does not work for everybody. What is the topic of this thread again?

[rubecube]

I don't want to get too personal here, but I know a lot of girls who quite enjoy being the dominant partner in bed, or at least trading off every now and then.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Except, it does not work for everybody. What is the topic of this thread again?

Who doesn't that work for?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I wouldn't say that sluts are fit for marriage though, ............would you?

What exactly do you consider a slut?

[Lobotroth]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

If you want to prove that you don't run away from conversations, go ahead and link to a peer-reviewed study on human sexual behaviour that supports your contention that gays sleep around more than straights.

Maybe he speaks from experience?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I'll lay it out for you in plain, simple, easy-to-understand terms: my wife and I wish to spend the rest of our lives with each other in a loving, committed marriage. How does having children (or not) give our marriage a purpose?

If you need a marriage certificate from the government to validate your relationship with your wife.....well that is just sad.

Marriage for the purpose of raising children keeps social order.....that to me was the original intent of it....a set of regulations for the sexual market so to speak.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by rubecube

What exactly do you consider a slut?

A bad long term investment.

[Thor]

Wow Obama finally grow some balls, oh wait he saw some polls.. Either way about time.

[CaptainCrunch]

Personally procreation is a often welcome benefit of a marriage, but its not a condition of a successful marriage.

My sister can't have kids as much as she wants them, and she's been happily married for something like 20 years.

I have a lot of friends who didn't get married because of the kids thing, or procreating.

Marriage is about two people finding each other falling in love, and deciding to confirm that love to the world and to make the biggest commitment to each other. Not because of they have this obligation to push hell spawn out on the world.

There are many examples of infertile woman who married in the bible.

Michal the first wife of King David


There were other couples that were married and infertile but were able to bear children afterwords due to their prayers, however they were not stopped from marrying because they were barren.

So under that premise if Marriage is defined as a committed relationship about love as the condition then it should proclude homosexuals.

Now Horses, that's another story.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Who doesn't that work for?

The people of North Carolina who voted it down.

[Flabbibulin]

I'm confused on what the purpose of this promiscuous argument is??? It is not gay men that are promiscuous- it is men in general that are promiscuous (at least try to be)... gay men arguably just have more opportunity to be promiscuous. Many choose to jump on that opportunity, many don't. If the average woman were as willing to go as the average man, heterosexual men would be seen in the same manner

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by rubecube

What exactly do you consider a slut?

I wish I could remember the whole thing but:

A slut is a woman who wants to have sex with every guy, except me.

[Lt.Spears]

"Sees Mikey has joined a thread about homosexuals"

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Ok smartguy, here's your task. You made a claim that homosexuals are promiscuous. You were challenged to provide supporting evidence to back up this claim so readers can verify that it's not just something you pulled out of your ass. You have so far failed completely to link to any studies that indicate the average homosexual is more promiscuous than the average heterosexual. If you want to prove that you don't run away from conversations, go ahead and link to a peer-reviewed study on human sexual behaviour that supports your contention that gays sleep around more than straights.

I'm waiting.

Okay smartguy.......how about I get back to my work and I will come back here later this afternoon to show you...

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

If you need a marriage certificate from the government to validate your relationship with your wife.....well that is just sad.

Marriage for the purpose of raising children keeps social order.....that to me was the original intent of it....a set of regulations for the sexual market so to speak.

Curious as to how you see having children keeps social order.

If anything procreation dissolves social order as an expanding population for the most part eats away at the definition of social order.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Sorry, but this was asked earlier, but might have been missed:

CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE STUDY SUPPORTING THIS STATEMENT?

Thanks.

Not mikey, but you might look at:

Laumann, Edward, et al. The Social Organization of Sexuality : Sexual Practices in the United States. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1994.

In this study, the median number of partners for homosexual men was 6 while it was 5 for heterosexual men. While not a huge difference, it was there. And the differences in the average as calculated by the mean was greater.