The Ken King Jersey Discussion Thread

[Icon]

Originally Posted by COGENT

The Calgary Tower is on fire... doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Also, how many logos, icons, and patches does a team need?

- there's a flame on top of the calgary tower quite often
- the flame's main logo is a flaming C, is that not a good idea?
- they only currently use the flaming C for a logo, so this would make a grand total of 2
- their current shoulder logos are flags, which is lame

[JerryUnderscore]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch77

Well there you go...

Why did we ever stop doing that?

[FlamesKickAss]

The A was cool. The C was stupid

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by JerryUnderscore

Well there you go...

Why did we ever stop doing that?

For the A, we didn't:



As for the C, because it looked stupid?

[JerryUnderscore]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

For the A, we didn't:

As for the C, because it looked stupid?

Yeah, I'm not sure how I forgot that we're still using the A. [/idiot]

I don't think the C looks bad. Although it does look a little weird when it's right next to a bigger version of the C on the chest. If we came out with an all new jersey design that did not simply have a Flaming C on the chest, then I'd say we should go back to the Flaming C for Captain.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by FlamingC4Life!

Uh the 80's jerseys are far more orange than the 04's are maroon. The new ones are much the same. But voting for the old when you are, well, old, doesn't surprise me.

I have an on-ice authentic version of each jersey (retro, 2003-04 design, and Edge design), and side-by-side, the red is identical between them.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by DT77

You know it's spring and the Flames are golfing when the jersey threads are out in full force!

I'm glad so many of you still enjoy that old set I made waaaay back. I did it when it was announced that Reebok was taking over the NHL jerseys and the only template available at the time was the All-Star template from the previous year. That's exactly what it is - a recolour of the All-star jersey. The only "creative" thing I did was add the Alberta shoulder patches - which, honestly is just a rip-off of what Dallas did... just waaaay better.

I'm a huge fan of NO BLACK on the jersey. Not even as an accent. That isn't to say I don't like it - I actually love the Black 'C' but I think the Flames have always looked best in Red/Gold/White only. It's just so... classy.

I found this one I did a couple of years ago on my laptop this morning and thought I'd contribute it. Basically just a tweak of our old set. The shoulders might need a nice shoulder patch or something. I just like a clean look. Something our current home/away are NOT.

Anyway, please debate. I love these threads and how completely polarizing some of the opinions are!

I want these jerseys.

Originally Posted by tomo

Here is my updated design with changes from feedback.
Thanks for the feedback guys.

- made numbers and "C" white for improved readability.
- Added silver outline around numbers and logos.
- made charcoal cloth of jersey and socks a bit lighter (to avoid one big black blob).

With a variation of this jersey as the third jersey.

[Dr. Pepper]

Keep those ideas coming... Can anyone design a new classic-looking but modern design?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by FlamingC4Life!

Uh the 80's jerseys are far more orange than the 04's are maroon. The new ones are much the same. But voting for the old when you are, well, old, doesn't surprise me.

I didn't realize that being in your twenties was old.

The 80s jerseys are red. Plain and simple. They may appear orange because of the interplay with the white and the bright yellow on them as well - just as the '04 jerseys appear darker because of the black C and the black trim. I also miss the red Montreal-style bar that was on top of the white jersey.

As far as this titantic struggle to find shoulder-patches that everyone likes, why are they even neccessary?

http://www.hhof.com/htmlinduct/ind07MacInnis.shtml

Check out all those pics of Al Macinnis. He doesn't have a shoulder patch in any of them except for the Stanley Cup finals one. Shoulder patches should be for achievements and special events. You don't need state and provincial flags, burning towers, or flaming snot-horses on the shoulders year-round.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Dr. Pepper

Keep those ideas coming... Can anyone design a new classic-looking but modern design?

I'd like someone to try my idea out. Taking out the yellow can make the jersey look so much more modern. How do others use a program or something to do the concept?

[Traditional_Ale]

I really like tomo's design, especially the updated one with the white. Very "futuristic" looking which I think is excellent.

[bluejays]

I just thought about another possibility - using the template of the LA Kings white jersey with Flames colours. I'd think that'd look pretty sweet.

[JerryUnderscore]

I understand the desire to go "retro" but I have to agree that the 80s style jersey needs to stay in the 80s. If anything we want to go retro it still needs to have a fresh modern take. Just taking the exact same jerseys we worn in the 80s gives off a vibe that we're out of fresh ideas as a club.

[bc-chris]

Originally Posted by fleury

I just thought about another possibility - using the template of the LA Kings white jersey with Flames colours. I'd think that'd look pretty sweet.

using the kings jersey.....

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by FlamingC4Life!

You need to get your eyes checked. I've got over 20 jerseys hanging in my closet right now. My vintage Flames jersey and my retro are NOT the same red as my 04 or my RBK. Argue all you like but they aren't.

I don't know what to tell you, but you're wrong. You're also the only one I've heard say this. You must have fakes from china.

Originally Posted by FlamingC4Life!

You know what's awesome about the current Flames jersey? Or even the 04's? They don't copy anyone else. Going after other team's styles and substituting Flames colours is like when your kid comes home with 18 pieces of metal in her face and tells you it's an expression of her individuality just like all her other friends have done. Bleh!

Anaheim and Colorado had the angled stripping long before Calgary. Plus those jerseys BCChris posted are almost identical to the ones the Atlanta Flames wore in their first season. So who copied whom? The pedestal jerseys were quite original, but everyone hates them (they're my favourite). Here they are without the pedestals.



just an idea.

[normtwofinger]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Plus those jerseys BCChris posted are almost identical to the ones the Atlanta Flames wore in their first season. So who copied whom?

The Atlanta design that carried over to the 80's Flames was a typical jersey design from that era. Google 'old WHA jerseys' and the majority of teams have the same stripe design, just different colors.

[Fischy13]

Originally Posted by Dr. Pepper

This is Awesome!! Black and Red have been proven to intimidate opponents. Just one more reason to use the black.

[COGENT]

Originally Posted by Icon

- there's a flame on top of the calgary tower quite often
- the flame's main logo is a flaming C, is that not a good idea?
- they only currently use the flaming C for a logo, so this would make a grand total of 2
- their current shoulder logos are flags, which is lame

-You're right, there is a flame that burns on top of the Calgary Tower. This is the tower on fire... not the same thing.
-The flaming C is a good idea! It's not a physical object in the city on fire.
-We have the Flaming C (in various colours), Flaming A, Flaming horse head and now flaming tower which makes a grand total of 4.
- their current shoulder patches are flags, which is OK. The better alternative would be no shoulder patches IMO.

[bc-chris]

Originally Posted by COGENT

-You're right, there is a flame that burns on top of the Calgary Tower. This is the tower on fire... not the same thing.
-The flaming C is a good idea! It's not a physical object in the city on fire.
-We have the Flaming C (in various colours), Flaming A, Flaming horse head and now flaming tower which makes a grand total of 4.
- their current shoulder patches are flags, which is OK. The better alternative would be no shoulder patches IMO.

hmmmm.... possible "next logo idea" for the canucks!?!?

[DT77]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Remove the white shoulders but leave the gold shoulder trim (a la Carolina Hurricanes) on the home jersey, replace the white on the collar with red and I think we have a winner.

I gave it a shot. It was kinda ugly. If I have time this week, I'll post it.

Originally Posted by Dr. Pepper

Hey these are great! Would it be too much trouble to ask you to show these with the current number style on the back, numbers on the arms below the shoulder color area, with a captain's "C" on the front? That would give a real nice idea of the full look!

Yes, I can do that once I get the time. Do we want to continue with the current number set or go back to the 80s style?

Originally Posted by normtwofinger

The Atlanta design that carried over to the 80's Flames was a typical jersey design from that era. Google 'old WHA jerseys' and the majority of teams have the same stripe design, just different colors.

In fairness to everyone back in the Atlanta Flames days and how popular those striping patterns were (Boston in particular was identical as were many others) they actually followed the striping pattern of most fire trucks. Kinda cool.



Which is why I thought the Flames jerseys could maybe follow the striping patterns of the Calgary Fire Dept.



And to those of you who think the shade of red of the Flames jerseys has changed over time - it hasn't. The black only makes it look darker in comparison. Pictures can also be deceiving based on lighting, etc. Take two authentic sweaters from any era and set them side-by-side and the red should be a match.