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Old 05-06-2012, 09:17 PM   #21
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^^I think there's a few older fleet with CFD that's still a yellow-ish colour.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:31 PM   #22
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Whoa, they used to be white/another colour?
They were neon green for a long time when i was a kid.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:39 PM   #23
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I think I recall that now.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:48 PM   #24
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Meh. I honestly thought is was a late April Fools joke. I can see where they are saving money, there's a whole lot less markings on this new unit.

One thing I like about the current livery is the fact that the striping along the sides is completely reflective with Scotchlite. I don't see how they're going to accomplish that with the "new" look.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #25
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They look bad-ass. And if they save the city money with no real drawback, why not?
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Really? a Dodge? So they want to have endless repairs in 5 years? Uggh.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:05 AM   #27
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I've always wondered, does the CPS' entire fleet, vans and trucks aside, need to be rapid response vehicles? Without a doubt, we could save a fair bit on capital and operational expenditures if a portion of the fleet were compact vehicles.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:29 AM   #28
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Really? a Dodge? So they want to have endless repairs in 5 years? Uggh.
That's what a warranty is for. You do know the CPS has had Dodge Chargers in their fleet for over six years now, right?

Or we could put the police into Toyotas so they could all uncontrollably accelerate into stationary objects.
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That's what a warranty is for. You do know the CPS has had Dodge Chargers in their fleet for over six years now, right?

Or we could put the police into Toyotas so they could all uncontrollably accelerate into stationary objects.
For years Calgary used Dodge or Plymouth? as cop cars. They came with factory propane so they were cheap to operate and they handled well. I even bought a used one at an auction when I could find propane for 11c/litre. When Chrysler quit making a four door rear wheel drive sedan, CPS switched over to Chevs until they stopped making a rear wheel drive. The Ford Crown Victorias were a last choice and they weren't easily adapted to propane.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:52 AM   #30
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That's what a warranty is for. You do know the CPS has had Dodge Chargers in their fleet for over six years now, right?

Or we could put the police into Toyotas so they could all uncontrollably accelerate into stationary objects.
Would they warranty them given the modifications to them though?
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I remember reading somewhere that the police models are actually modified by the manufacturer (not the livery, but mechanically).
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Would they warranty them given the modifications to them though?
A plastic back seat with a drain hole has no impact to your transmission, so the warranty is still honoured. This is a common misconception, your warranty doesn't go away for modifying a vehicle or having someone else service it. It can make it a hassle though. The onus is on the dealer to show the modification is responsible for the problem, otherwise it's a warranty fix. That can all get pretty grey with engine modifications, which they aren't doing.

Cruisers/interceptors are traditionally produced as such. I think the Crown Vics had bigger transmission coolers and a few other tweaks.
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I heard on the radio that the B&W cruisers will save almost 1 million a year in decal costs... If that's true wasn't the CPS pissing and moaning that they couldn't find anywhere to save money and that front line staff would suffer if there were budget constraints?

Ford will be producing a dedicated police interceptor, it will most likely become the standard after the Dodge experiment goes awry. (That's if they choose the Charger for the sole car in the interceptor fleet.)
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:11 PM   #34
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Love the black and white. These colours are ingrained in our psyche, mostly from American movies and TV. May as well just go with it. Everyone knows a black and white car is a police car. Everyone knows a huge red truck is a fire truck.

Ford Interceptors look sweet as well.



http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterc...ery/photos/all

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A plastic back seat with a drain hole has no impact to your transmission, so the warranty is still honoured. This is a common misconception, your warranty doesn't go away for modifying a vehicle or having someone else service it. It can make it a hassle though. The onus is on the dealer to show the modification is responsible for the problem, otherwise it's a warranty fix. That can all get pretty grey with engine modifications, which they aren't doing.

Cruisers/interceptors are traditionally produced as such. I think the Crown Vics had bigger transmission coolers and a few other tweaks.
Do you know what the factory warranty is on a police interceptor? It sounds like you are assuming the warranties are the same for both the civilian cars as the interceptor, just curious to know how you are so sure.

There are more than just "tweaks" on a Crown Vic Interceptor.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:27 PM   #36
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There are more than just "tweaks" on a Crown Vic Interceptor.
Mechanically, the only differences are:

-Better brakes
-higher load suspension
-bigger alternator
-more cooling
-tweaked ECU programming for quicker downshifts for sudden acceleration

Its nothing all that crazy. As for the warranty, I speculate after having seen them in for work at dealerships. I would assume all non-warranty work is done by CPS mechanics or CPS contracted mechanics.
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I just want one cruiser to have "to punish and enslave" instead of "to serve and protect"..
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Love the black and white. These colours are ingrained in our psyche, mostly from American movies and TV. May as well just go with it. Everyone knows a black and white car is a police car. Everyone knows a huge red truck is a fire truck.

Ford Interceptors look sweet as well.



http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterc...ery/photos/all

That looks pretty awesome.
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Do you know what the factory warranty is on a police interceptor? It sounds like you are assuming the warranties are the same for both the civilian cars as the interceptor, just curious to know how you are so sure.

There are more than just "tweaks" on a Crown Vic Interceptor.
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Mechanically, the only differences are:

-Better brakes
-higher load suspension
-bigger alternator
-more cooling
-tweaked ECU programming for quicker downshifts for sudden acceleration

Its nothing all that crazy. As for the warranty, I speculate after having seen them in for work at dealerships. I would assume all non-warranty work is done by CPS mechanics or CPS contracted mechanics.
Like I said, the major modifications are provided by Dodge:
https://www.fleet.chrysler.com/fleet...0091f4e735RCRD
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Mechanically, the only differences are:

-Better brakes
-higher load suspension
-bigger alternator
-more cooling
-tweaked ECU programming for quicker downshifts for sudden acceleration

Its nothing all that crazy. As for the warranty, I speculate after having seen them in for work at dealerships. I would assume all non-warranty work is done by CPS mechanics or CPS contracted mechanics.
The drive shafts are different too, so changes to all the major components of the car, they are a wholly different car in the mechanical reliability respect.
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