05-06-2012, 09:17 PM
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^^I think there's a few older fleet with CFD that's still a yellow-ish colour.
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05-06-2012, 09:31 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
Whoa, they used to be white/another colour?
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They were neon green for a long time when i was a kid.
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05-06-2012, 09:39 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I think I recall that now.
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05-06-2012, 09:48 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary
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Meh. I honestly thought is was a late April Fools joke. I can see where they are saving money, there's a whole lot less markings on this new unit.
One thing I like about the current livery is the fact that the striping along the sides is completely reflective with Scotchlite. I don't see how they're going to accomplish that with the "new" look.
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05-06-2012, 09:59 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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They look bad-ass. And if they save the city money with no real drawback, why not?
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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05-07-2012, 09:02 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Really? a Dodge? So they want to have endless repairs in 5 years? Uggh.
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05-07-2012, 09:05 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Addick
I've always wondered, does the CPS' entire fleet, vans and trucks aside, need to be rapid response vehicles? Without a doubt, we could save a fair bit on capital and operational expenditures if a portion of the fleet were compact vehicles.
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No...
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05-07-2012, 09:29 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt.Spears
Really? a Dodge? So they want to have endless repairs in 5 years? Uggh.
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That's what a warranty is for. You do know the CPS has had Dodge Chargers in their fleet for over six years now, right?
Or we could put the police into Toyotas so they could all uncontrollably accelerate into stationary objects.
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GO FLAMES GO.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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05-07-2012, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TorqueDog
That's what a warranty is for. You do know the CPS has had Dodge Chargers in their fleet for over six years now, right?
Or we could put the police into Toyotas so they could all uncontrollably accelerate into stationary objects.
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For years Calgary used Dodge or Plymouth? as cop cars. They came with factory propane so they were cheap to operate and they handled well. I even bought a used one at an auction when I could find propane for 11c/litre. When Chrysler quit making a four door rear wheel drive sedan, CPS switched over to Chevs until they stopped making a rear wheel drive. The Ford Crown Victorias were a last choice and they weren't easily adapted to propane.
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05-07-2012, 11:52 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TorqueDog
That's what a warranty is for. You do know the CPS has had Dodge Chargers in their fleet for over six years now, right?
Or we could put the police into Toyotas so they could all uncontrollably accelerate into stationary objects.
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Would they warranty them given the modifications to them though?
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05-07-2012, 12:04 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that the police models are actually modified by the manufacturer (not the livery, but mechanically).
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05-07-2012, 12:07 PM
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by Lt.Spears
Would they warranty them given the modifications to them though?
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A plastic back seat with a drain hole has no impact to your transmission, so the warranty is still honoured. This is a common misconception, your warranty doesn't go away for modifying a vehicle or having someone else service it. It can make it a hassle though. The onus is on the dealer to show the modification is responsible for the problem, otherwise it's a warranty fix. That can all get pretty grey with engine modifications, which they aren't doing.
Cruisers/interceptors are traditionally produced as such. I think the Crown Vics had bigger transmission coolers and a few other tweaks.
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05-07-2012, 12:10 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I heard on the radio that the B&W cruisers will save almost 1 million a year in decal costs... If that's true wasn't the CPS pissing and moaning that they couldn't find anywhere to save money and that front line staff would suffer if there were budget constraints?
Ford will be producing a dedicated police interceptor, it will most likely become the standard after the Dodge experiment goes awry. (That's if they choose the Charger for the sole car in the interceptor fleet.)
Last edited by GreatWhiteEbola; 05-07-2012 at 12:35 PM.
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05-07-2012, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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Love the black and white. These colours are ingrained in our psyche, mostly from American movies and TV. May as well just go with it. Everyone knows a black and white car is a police car. Everyone knows a huge red truck is a fire truck.
Ford Interceptors look sweet as well.
http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterc...ery/photos/all
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05-07-2012, 12:16 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hulkrogan
A plastic back seat with a drain hole has no impact to your transmission, so the warranty is still honoured. This is a common misconception, your warranty doesn't go away for modifying a vehicle or having someone else service it. It can make it a hassle though. The onus is on the dealer to show the modification is responsible for the problem, otherwise it's a warranty fix. That can all get pretty grey with engine modifications, which they aren't doing.
Cruisers/interceptors are traditionally produced as such. I think the Crown Vics had bigger transmission coolers and a few other tweaks.
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Do you know what the factory warranty is on a police interceptor? It sounds like you are assuming the warranties are the same for both the civilian cars as the interceptor, just curious to know how you are so sure.
There are more than just "tweaks" on a Crown Vic Interceptor.
Last edited by GreatWhiteEbola; 05-07-2012 at 12:22 PM.
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05-07-2012, 01:27 PM
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My face is a bum!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola
There are more than just "tweaks" on a Crown Vic Interceptor.
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Mechanically, the only differences are:
-Better brakes
-higher load suspension
-bigger alternator
-more cooling
-tweaked ECU programming for quicker downshifts for sudden acceleration
Its nothing all that crazy. As for the warranty, I speculate after having seen them in for work at dealerships. I would assume all non-warranty work is done by CPS mechanics or CPS contracted mechanics.
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05-07-2012, 01:30 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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I just want one cruiser to have "to punish and enslave" instead of "to serve and protect"..
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05-07-2012, 01:38 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by worth
Love the black and white. These colours are ingrained in our psyche, mostly from American movies and TV. May as well just go with it. Everyone knows a black and white car is a police car. Everyone knows a huge red truck is a fire truck.
Ford Interceptors look sweet as well.
http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterc...ery/photos/all
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That looks pretty awesome.
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05-07-2012, 01:44 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola
Do you know what the factory warranty is on a police interceptor? It sounds like you are assuming the warranties are the same for both the civilian cars as the interceptor, just curious to know how you are so sure.
There are more than just "tweaks" on a Crown Vic Interceptor.
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Originally Posted by hulkrogan
Mechanically, the only differences are:
-Better brakes
-higher load suspension
-bigger alternator
-more cooling
-tweaked ECU programming for quicker downshifts for sudden acceleration
Its nothing all that crazy. As for the warranty, I speculate after having seen them in for work at dealerships. I would assume all non-warranty work is done by CPS mechanics or CPS contracted mechanics.
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Like I said, the major modifications are provided by Dodge:
https://www.fleet.chrysler.com/fleet...0091f4e735RCRD
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05-07-2012, 01:56 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hulkrogan
Mechanically, the only differences are:
-Better brakes
-higher load suspension
-bigger alternator
-more cooling
-tweaked ECU programming for quicker downshifts for sudden acceleration
Its nothing all that crazy. As for the warranty, I speculate after having seen them in for work at dealerships. I would assume all non-warranty work is done by CPS mechanics or CPS contracted mechanics.
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The drive shafts are different too, so changes to all the major components of the car, they are a wholly different car in the mechanical reliability respect.
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