Can you elaborate on this? From what I can tell from the story, it seems that the shirt did offend some people from the school which started this entire situation.
At least one of the links in the thread had a quote saying specifically that the actions weren't a result of someone being offended, I can't remember which one though.
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Imagine Christianity is now counter culture and being banned. Kids will think it pretty cool soon so long as the authorities keep banning it.
Imagine a youth being rebelious? Who would have thought that would ever happen eh?
By their actions the school board has turned this into an issue and gave the kid a platform. This was handled very badly by the school and their political correctness has been exposed.
What next? No debating societies in case someone wanders in and hears a persons views and being offended by them?
I guess we had better start cleaning up TV for there are a lot of things which could offend somebody on there.
Maybe someone will get offended by seeing disabled people so we had better hide them.
Or we could get offended by people's foul language and have them suspended or fired from work.
Where does it end?
Turns out the kid wasn't in the least bit interested in whether he offended others. In fact, it seems as though he went out of his way to do it, and when offered a chance to turn this into an opportunity to learn about tolerance, the boy's agenda (and his father's) became obvious.
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John Swinimer pulled his son William out of school this morning, saying he will having nothing to do with discussions taking place at Forest Heights Community School today about freedom of religion and expression.
William Swinimer showed up at school wearing the yellow T-shirt that has garnered him national attention, but moments later his father angrily strode across the parking lot, waved his copy of The New Testament at the media, and told them he's pulling his son out of school.
“This is who I am,” he proclaimed, and said no one can stop him from advancing his Christian faith.
He refused to take questions, saying, “I'm making statements.”
Lol, how surly of him!
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Swinimer said he has served a total of about 12 days of in-school suspensions. He said he does proselytize in school, but only to those who listen.
Grade 10 student Riley Gibb-Smith said that's not true. He said Swinimer constantly preaches to the kids, telling them they must become Christians, “and he just won't stop.”
“He tells us we'll burn in hell if we don't confess ourselves to Jesus,” Riley said.
Hell yeah, get more of this Riley guy on the TV. I can't believe the school caved on this thing.
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Wow. F### this kid, seriously. He's lucky he didn't go to my school, someone surely would have beat his ass for telling them they were going to burn in hell and preaching constantly. It's not a matter of religious freedom, it's a matter of being an annoying little prick who won't shut up.
Grade 10 student Riley Gibb-Smith said the situation is about far more than a T-shirt slogan.
“This thing never was about a shirt. ... He's telling kids they'll burn in hell if they don't confess themselves to Jesus, he's said that,” Riley said
He is an exchange student from Australia and said Swinimer approached him on his third day at his new school. He said Swinimer frequently preaches to kids and won't stop when they tell him they've had enough.
Student council vice-president Katelyn Hiltz said she fully supports the school suspending Swinimer after he had been told repeatedly that some students were upset by his proselytizing and found his shirt offensive.
go ahead mikey and tell us more on how this is just political correctness run amok and how there is an anti-Christian agenda afoot
At the end of the day, there is nothing illegal about being a very large d0uche rocket, nor are they grounds for violence or a beatdown.
However, I would have probably locked the kid in the trunk of a car.
I just don't see it as all that suspension worthy.
I don't think there has ever been an argument that he is doing anything illegal, the argument is that it is disruptive to the school environment and therefore the school is within its rights to limit the messages that students display.
Maybe, but depending on presentation is there anything hateful in the message, or something that would incite disruption or violence?
I don't know.
Well you don't need violence for disruption, and I would say that there's plenty of evidence of disruption to the learning environment, especially with this added layer of open and aggressive proselytizing in the school.
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Maybe, but depending on presentation is there anything hateful in the message, or something that would incite disruption or violence?
I don't know.
I would say constantly being reminded that you'll burn in hell if you don't believe what he believes is a pretty hateful message, and definitely something that would be disruptive to the school environment.
I think the school should have suspended him on the grounds of this rather than wearing a shirt. By using this silly t-shirt thing as an excuse, it detracted from the real issue on why the kid should have been suspended.
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Sounds like the t-shirt was a part of his agenda, where he was preaching to and approaching other kids constantly. If that is the case, suspension is warranted, if he just wore a t-shirt, I doubt it would have caused a stir. The shirt appears to be part of a bigger problem with this kid.
I don't think this is the kids agenda at all. Its obvious to me that this is all coming from his father/family. I feel sorry for children who get indoctrinated into these beliefs without any say for themselves. And you might say that he does have a choice, which i suppose is true, but what do you think this guys dad would do if his son came home one day and refused to go to church, or refused to pray before dinner, or refused to wear his "Life is Wasted Without Jesus" t-shirt is father gave him to school?
Pulling him out of class preaching freedom of religion and expression? Of course the kid knows no different.
I would say constantly being reminded that you'll burn in hell if you don't believe what he believes is a pretty hateful message, and definitely something that would be disruptive to the school environment.
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not if you don't believe it.......then it's just funny/sad depending on your personality.
