So I've got Batman Begins on the TV in the background, it's on Global at the moment.
Good movie, but there's something I caught this time around. The little kid that idolizes Batman... could this be Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character in Dark Knight Rises?
He turns into Joffery Baratheon.
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Still not completely sold on the addition of Anne Hathaway, but the movie will be amazing none the less.
Christopher Nolan is the best director in Hoillywood though, no doubt about it. I can't wait to see where he goes once this trilogy is over.
I don't know man, remember I was the guy b1tching far and wide on this board about the portrayal of the joker and Heath Ledger playing him before TDK came out and I was completely wrong.
Hathaway might make a decent catwoman.
Plus tight black leather.
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Still not completely sold on the addition of Anne Hathaway, but the movie will be amazing none the less.
Christopher Nolan is the best director in Hoillywood though, no doubt about it. I can't wait to see where he goes once this trilogy is over.
No, there is plenty of doubt about it. Nolan has made some good films and some that get far more hype than they are worth. Outside of Batman he hasn't topped Memento no matter what the fanboys blather on about Inception and The Prestige. Just like Fincher's best work is in Se7en and The Game yet Fight Club and The Social Network turn followers into piles of white goo.
^ I'd question you on all fronts. While Memento is probably his best work; Inception, Prestige, and even Insomnia all surpass what we see in Hollywood today. Call it fanboyism or whatever you want, but I liked Insomnia well before he became an acclaimed director, and believe The Prestige and Inception are almost as good as the Batman movies. They are both unique, clever films which deserve the praise they receive without the aid of the Batman movies.
In your mind who is actually better than him? If I had to take a guess most would say Danny Boyle, Aronofsky, Fincher, and then mainstay directors like Spielberg, Scorsese, the Coen's, Tarantino, Anderson (both of them), and Jackson.
All good choices, but each of them has had one or two mediocre, movies on their resume. This is in contrast to Nolan who has gone 7 for 7 on movies he has directed. I hate to use rottentomatoes as a way to rate someone, but his average rating of 88% pretty much speaks for itself.
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Memento was the most clever, but Inception and The Prestige were both better stories.
I still think that Maggie Gyllenhaal was a terrible replacement for Katie Holmes, but it felt less painful when she blew up, so I guess that's a bonus.
Outside of Batman he hasn't topped Memento no matter what the fanboys blather on about Inception and The Prestige.
So you want every new movie to be the best thing he has ever done? Just cause Gretzky only scored 92 once, doesn't mean his other season were overated!
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^ I'd question you on all fronts. While Memento is probably his best work; Inception, Prestige, and even Insomnia all surpass what we see in Hollywood today. Call it fanboyism or whatever you want, but I liked Insomnia well before he became an acclaimed director, and believe The Prestige and Inception are almost as good as the Batman movies. They are both unique, clever films which deserve the praise they receive without the aid of the Batman movies.
In your mind who is actually better than him? If I had to take a guess most would say Danny Boyle, Aronofsky, Fincher, and then mainstay directors like Spielberg, Scorsese, the Coen's, Tarantino, Anderson (both of them), and Jackson.
All good choices, but each of them has had one or two mediocre, movies on their resume. This is in contrast to Nolan who has gone 7 for 7 on movies he has directed. I hate to use rottentomatoes as a way to rate someone, but his average rating of 88% pretty much speaks for itself.
That's a nice long few paragraphs when you could have just writeen "Nolan Fanboy". Prestige was boring with a horrible, rediculous and unbelievable ending. It's NOT an amazing film that's far better than "anything" Hollywood puts out.
Making a claim that the Coen's and Tarantino are main stream just furhter proves the point. Using Rotten Tomatoes just makes you look as dumb as someone quoting a TSN poll. The results come from those who respond and fanboys love their rotten tomotoes.
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So you want every new movie to be the best thing he has ever done? Just cause Gretzky only scored 92 once, doesn't mean his other season were overated!
No but when you win the Richard and then are out of the league a few years later you aren't near as big as the hype coming from all the fanboys. If Nolan made a 2 hour feature about a peice of poo walking down the street saying hello to everyone he meets some would laud it as a masterpeice and better than "anything" Hollywood puts out. It's easy to debunk him being the best director out there.
That's a nice long few paragraphs when you could have just writeen "Nolan Fanboy". Prestige was boring with a horrible, rediculous and unbelievable ending. It's NOT an amazing film that's far better than "anything" Hollywood puts out.
Making a claim that the Coen's and Tarantino are main stream just furhter proves the point.
Please re-read my post, I said mainstay, not mainstream. Mainstray meaning they have been around for a long time and would always be considered among the top directors (such as Scott, Eastwood, Allen, Mann, etc).
And I am not a Nolan fanboy, I don't really like the ending in The Prestige either, but I loved how Bale's character was able to pull it off the final act. The script was mostly written by Christopher's brother Johnathan, who could be blamed for some of the faults in that movie.
I also never said it was "amazing", it was a solid 4 out of 5 star movie marred by Johansson's sub-par acting, and the somewhat convoluted ending as you said. However, that would likely be his "worst" movie which is still better than some of the movies the other directors have worked on.
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Please re-read my post, I said mainstay, not mainstream. Mainstray meaning they have been around for a long time and would always be considered among the top directors (such as Scott, Eastwood, Allen, Mann, etc).
And I am not a Nolan fanboy, I don't really like the ending in The Prestige either, but I loved how Bale's character was able to pull it off the final act. The script was mostly written by Christopher's brother Johnathan, who could be blamed for some of the faults in that movie.
I also never said it was "amazing", it was a solid 4 out of 5 star movie marred by Johansson's sub-par acting, and the somewhat convoluted ending as you said. However, that would likely be his "worst" movie which is still better than some of the movies the other directors have worked on.
I'd gladly watch any other "worst" film by some of the director's you mentioned that watch The Prestiege again. A great 2/3rds doesn't make up for an ending that was beyond terrible. I can't believe how much applause this film gets while people spend days on end crying about Indy nuking the fridge. And again it all goes back to making the claim that Nolan is the best director out there when he is, in fact, not. Never said he was terrible but he's not some genius god that so many believe who can do no wrong. 7 for 7 is a rediculous claim when Following was a watch and forget film and more people don't even get Inception than those who required a change of underwear. Then there is The Prestige plus Insomnia which was an utter dissapointment as a follow-up to Memnto. Unless your claim was that The Dark Knight Rises (with it's terrible title) is already a garunteed best picture winner which just makes the argument even stupider.
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Sorry, but I can't decipher some of your post (Following was a watch?). I have seen Following and yes it is a very good movie too. Better than The Beach, Ladykillers, The Fountain, The Game, Death Proof, and a whole slew of movies directed by the rest. It's it a great by any measure? Probably not, but still good for his first outing.
And Dark Knight Rises will be a great film, it doesn't take a genius to see that. Also, how the movies title affects anything is beyond me.
It may just be a difference of opinion, but I won't denounce someone who is batting 1000% (even if it's only for a limited number of movies).
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I'd gladly watch any other "worst" film by some of the director's you mentioned that watch The Prestiege again. A great 2/3rds doesn't make up for an ending that was beyond terrible. I can't believe how much applause this film gets while people spend days on end crying about Indy nuking the fridge. And again it all goes back to making the claim that Nolan is the best director out there when he is, in fact, not. Never said he was terrible but he's not some genius god that so many believe who can do no wrong. 7 for 7 is a rediculous claim when Following was a watch and forget film and more people don't even get Inception than those who required a change of underwear. Then there is The Prestige plus Insomnia which was an utter dissapointment as a follow-up to Memnto. Unless your claim was that The Dark Knight Rises (with it's terrible title) is already a garunteed best picture winner which just makes the argument even stupider.
You realize that it's a matter of opinion, right? You're making everything sound so matter of fact and that no matter what tracker says, you're right and he's wrong.
Oh and your opinion on rotten tomatoes as a useless gauge is wrong given your argument that it's just a bunch of fanboys bumping the ratings up. You can limit the rating to just critics, or even further and use the "Top Critics" feature. Again, their opinion is no more right or wrong that mine or yours, but I don't think it's a site that can be totally disregarded either.
In your mind who is actually better than him? If I had to take a guess most would say Danny Boyle, Aronofsky, Fincher, and then mainstay directors like Spielberg, Scorsese, the Coen's, Tarantino, Anderson (both of them), and Jackson.
All good choices, but each of them has had one or two mediocre, movies on their resume. This is in contrast to Nolan who has gone 7 for 7 on movies he has directed. I hate to use rottentomatoes as a way to rate someone, but his average rating of 88% pretty much speaks for itself.
Quentin's ratings are very high as well and I think he has gone 6 for 6 with his main flicks. I don't count his Grindhouse flick, even thought I did like it, but that was a goofy passion project for him and Rodriguez. Pulp, Reservoir, Jackie, IB and both Kill Bills were all very different and all very good.
Not sure what Fincher's miss was, outside of Alien 3. Everything else he has done has been solid IMO.
Nolan, Fincher and Quentin are my fav directors and haven't done much wrong in their work.
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