GDT: The Alberta Election 2012 - The Morning After - PC Majority Government

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Does the party not have the right to revoke ANYBODY'S membership? No membership means you can no longer represent the WRP.

Yes. And to the best of my knowledge it has only been used. Both times for actions detrimental to the Party. It's not as easy as you might think and certainly can't be done by one person.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by First Lady

It was from Facebook and you can see more on that here: http://janemorgan.blogspot.ca/2012/0...o-too-far.html

ps: I'm just catching up on this thread, decided not to multi-quote. Might stack up a couple posts in a row.

Nice of you to remove the name of the idiot (though they certainly deserve to have their name plastered all over the place). You should just blank out the name and leave the image itself up though. Good example of how far Canadian politics has fallen.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Nice of you to remove the name of the idiot (though they certainly deserve to have their name plastered all over the place). You should just blank out the name and leave the image itself up though. Good example of how far Canadian politics has fallen.

Yeah, as I said in the comments; if you are going to make public statements you need to stand by them, retract or clarify.

She asked me to remove her first name.... I pointed out her apology had her first name... *face palm*

Many have said I was "too Canadian" by removing all the names. I'm softer than I appear...

On another note..... http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2012/...uld-have-quit/

Guess I'm an activist now....

[burn_this_city]

Those were some pretty trashy things that RN wrote. People get a little too caught up in partisan politics, it's as if there's an existential threat to them if their party doesn't win. I agree with the sports fan analogy that was mentioned earlier in the thread, although I find it's somewhat difficult not to get sucked in by it at times.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But the problem with that approach is there's no way to guarentee prices won't drop. It most likely won't but if it does then what?

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

I will admit that it is highly unlikely that natural gas will drop in the near future, but I thought the same when it was sitting at $3 and again at $4. If I keep on this path then I will be right eventually.

Wait, what? Have you guys looked at where storage levels are already right now? Even as we move into the time of year when gas storage levels normally increases even further? (Note: as always, I'm just a numbers kind of guy who can totally wrong as the next person).

http://ir.eia.gov/ngs/ngs.html



Note: The shaded area indicates the range between the historical minimum and maximum values for the weekly series from 2007 through 2011.

[chemgear]

If you watch American football, you're probably aware of the "C'mon Man!" segment. It would seem appropriate to this again:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

Just days after the election, a victorious southern Alberta Wildrose candidate is stirring up controversy by criticizing voters in the province's cities.


"I think they possess more common sense, a least that's my experience. The people who make their living off the land really seem to understand the way nature really works," said Bickman.

Political experts say Bickman's comments won't help the Wildrose in Alberta's urban centres.


"That's pitting one region off against another and that may be good local politics in Cardson-Taber. It is disastrous province-wide," said MRU Political Scientist, Duane Bratt

[kn]

Common sense would dictate that you wouldn't make a statement to antagonize urban regions from which you were virtually shut out and are paramount to any future electoral success.

C'mon man!

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by chemgear

If you watch American football, you're probably aware of the "C'mon Man!" segment. It would seem appropriate to this again:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

Just days after the election, a victorious southern Alberta Wildrose candidate is stirring up controversy by criticizing voters in the province's cities.


"I think they possess more common sense, a least that's my experience. The people who make their living off the land really seem to understand the way nature really works," said Bickman.

Political experts say Bickman's comments won't help the Wildrose in Alberta's urban centres.


"That's pitting one region off against another and that may be good local politics in Cardson-Taber. It is disastrous province-wide," said MRU Political Scientist, Duane Bratt

Damn city-slicker reporter couldn't even spell his name right! It's Bikman! They also got Cardston wrong the second time, even though they got it right the first!

All kidding aside, who better to tell us about common sense than a 75-year-old Stirling man with 13 kids? He's got his finger on the pulse of Alberta!

[redforever]

I thought this article by Deborah Yedlin of the Herald was rather well written and looks at the election in Alberta through the eyes of an investor.

She basically goes through some scenarios and explains why Redford and the PCs are better equipped than Smith and the WR to manage Corporate Alberta.

Yedlin: Looking at the election through investor's lens

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/Yedlin+Looking+election+through+investor+lens/6496939/story.html

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

As a casual listener to CBC radio I heard that there was some comment about one of the party members saying that because he's white it helps him get votes. And then there was another issue with the same party a few days later.

What party was this?

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Wait, what? Have you guys looked at where storage levels are already right now? Even as we move into the time of year when gas storage levels normally increases even further? (Note: as always, I'm just a numbers kind of guy who can totally wrong as the next person).

My thought process is that we are low enough now that it may be cheaper to pay the penalties and start shutting in large volumes of wells. That wouldn't raise the prices, but it would stop the fall in prices. At least in my uninformed opinion.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by First Lady

On another note..... http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2012/...uld-have-quit/

Guess I'm an activist now....

And someone already has their own counter-point

http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2012/...oses-collapse/

And looks like you've moved up from "Activist" to "Prominent Party Voice"

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Wait, what? Have you guys looked at where storage levels are already right now? Even as we move into the time of year when gas storage levels normally increases even further? (Note: as always, I'm just a numbers kind of guy who can totally wrong as the next person).

Sorry should have made clear I was talking about crude oil prices, which while volatile are unlikely to fall too far, so long as there is as much political instability as there is throughout the world.

[Makarov]

My favourite quote from the article:

He went on to say that city dwellers just don't understand the issues.


"I think that these social issues that came up during the last week and the PCs ability to exploit them, caused some concern in the voters within urban areas, at least, because they didn't really understand the issues, they didn't really understand that there was an aspect of free speech, " said the Cardston-Taber-Warner MLA-Elect.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Alberta has a bipolar rural/urban personality...

[nik-]

Originally Posted by chemgear

If you watch American football, you're probably aware of the "C'mon Man!" segment. It would seem appropriate to this again:

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

Just days after the election, a victorious southern Alberta Wildrose candidate is stirring up controversy by criticizing voters in the province's cities.


"I think they possess more common sense, a least that's my experience. The people who make their living off the land really seem to understand the way nature really works," said Bickman.

Political experts say Bickman's comments won't help the Wildrose in Alberta's urban centres.


"That's pitting one region off against another and that may be good local politics in Cardson-Taber. It is disastrous province-wide," said MRU Political Scientist, Duane Bratt

Reminds me of Sarah Palin's "real Virginia" comment.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by First Lady

On another note..... http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2012/...uld-have-quit/

Guess I'm an activist now....

Gee, I can't wait until you and Cory have your own show on Sun TV.

I'll get flamed for this but I'm sensing you guys are starting to be more about shameless self promotion than you are about 'improving the lives of Calgarians or Albertans'.

I think you meant well when you became politically active. I think now you're content with being well-known and controversial.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

Alberta has a bipolar rural/urban personality...

Everywhere does, really. The voting pattern that saw Rob Ford elected mayor of Toronto is rather fascinating... and an indictment of the megacity concept.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Everywhere does, really. The voting pattern that saw Rob Ford elected mayor of Toronto is rather fascinating... and an indictment of the megacity concept.

Agreed.

However I feel as Alberta's urban centres continue to grow, the split is deepening.

[Bobblehead]

One of the major things the WRP brought up, Property Rights, is indeed a much greater issue for the rural voters as opposed to urban, specifically Bills 16, 24, 36 & 50 (link from Vermilion Standard giving a basic outline of the issue). It created a big stir with land owners but seems to have barely made a ripple with urban dwellers. I'm wondering if that is because there are more renters in the city, people are generally more mobile, or some other reason. In any respect, it created a deep divide.