04-23-2012, 11:50 PM
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#421
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cal_guy
According to wikipedia Calgary, Edmonton and Medicine Hat actually used the Single-Transferable Vote to assign ridings while all of the other ridings used instant-runoff! They only changed to the first-past-the-post system in 1955.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...le_Vote#Canada
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Now THAT is interesting!
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The unexpected result of using this voting method was the election of enough candidates of a new party, Social Credit (also known as “SoCreds”). This resulted in the SoCreds forming a minority government, with the CCF forming the official opposition. The Liberals were reduced to four members in the Legislature. The Conservatives (who changed their name to “Progressive Conservative” in tandem with their federal counterparts) were reduced to three.
The SoCred minority government lasted only nine months. The alternate voting system was again employed for the resulting general election. The result was a SoCred majority. During this term of office, the SoCreds abolished the new voting system and returned the province to the traditional voting system.
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04-23-2012, 11:59 PM
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#422
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McCall has been called for Galpin. That leaves only Fish Creek to go, and the Tory Candidate (Wendelin Fraser) is ahead by just over 100 votes with 64 polls reporting.
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04-24-2012, 12:04 AM
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#423
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
McCall has been called for Galpin. That leaves only Fish Creek to go, and the Tory Candidate (Wendelin Fraser) is ahead by just over 100 votes with 64 polls reporting.
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Will likely be Galpin at this point, but I wouldn't call it yet, based on the elections alberta results. Still just 250 votes.
308 blog had PC McCall candidate Mohammed Rasheed winning the riding, from the results that I can see, Rasheed will recieve the fewest number of votes out of ANY PC candidate.
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04-24-2012, 12:05 AM
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#424
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Will likely be Galpin at this point, but I wouldn't call it yet, based on the elections alberta results. Still just 250 votes.
308 blog had PC McCall candidate Mohommed Rasheed winning the riding, from the results that I can see, Rasheed will recieve the fewest number of votes out of ANY PC candidate.
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Maybe they should shut that blog down.. both their Federal and Provincial polls were way off!
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04-24-2012, 12:10 AM
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#425
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Will likely be Galpin at this point, but I wouldn't call it yet, based on the elections alberta results. Still just 250 votes.
308 blog had PC McCall candidate Mohammed Rasheed winning the riding, from the results that I can see, Rasheed will recieve the fewest number of votes out of ANY PC candidate.
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You may well be right. I'm just reporting that the Herald's map is calling it for Galpin--I'm not sure on what basis they're projecting the result.
I think it's interesting that even Wild Rose's incumbents (Paul Hinman lost, Heather Forsyth may lose) are doing poorly.
However, as I type this, Forsyth has closed the gap to 18 votes with 2 polls left to count.
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04-24-2012, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
Does this end the same way, wildrose/pc merger?
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I think that depends on the PCs under Redford's leadership and to what extent Alberta has shifted to the left. Assuming Alberta has shifted to the left and Redford has accurately captured that sentiment, then I think the Wildrose is irrelevant and will fade. On the other hand, if Alberta still has a major conservative element and Redford shifts dramatically to the left, the Wildrose will be a player. However, if Redford sees the rise of Wildrose as an indication that the PCs have abandoned it's right-flank, it could co-opt much of what the Wildrose stands for and once again make it irrelevant, making a merger a possibility.
Interesting times...
Last edited by kn; 04-24-2012 at 12:15 AM.
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04-24-2012, 12:13 AM
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#427
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Voted for Kodos
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310 vote lead in Calgary McCall for Galpin now, with 2 polls to go. That should do it.
Somewhat surprised that Galpin won, though I figured he'd be fairly close in the race.
He'll be a good MLA. One of two urban WRP MLAs.
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04-24-2012, 12:16 AM
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#428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kn
I think that depends on the PCs under Redford's leadership and to what extent Alberta has shifted to the left. Assuming Alberta has shifted to the left and Redford has accurately captured that sentiment, then I think the Wildrose is irrelevant and will fade. On the other hand, if Alberta still has a major conservative element and Redford shifts dramatically to the left, the Wildrose will be a player. However, if Redford sees the rise of Wildrose as an indication that the PCs have abandoned it's right-flank, it could co-opt much of what the Wildrose stands for and once again make it irrelevant making a merger a possibility.
Interesting times...
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I think it is very telling at where the Wildrose won seats, and where they didn't. They're pretty much exclusively a Southern Alberta party.
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04-24-2012, 12:18 AM
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#429
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The student vote was more accurate than the pollsters!
PC - 53 seats
WR - 22 seats
Liberals - 6 seats
NDP - 5 seats
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/po...053/story.html
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04-24-2012, 12:19 AM
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#430
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
I think it is very telling at where the Wildrose won seats, and where they didn't. They're pretty much exclusively a Southern Alberta party.
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Yup. They have a lot of work to do to be a player.
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04-24-2012, 12:21 AM
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#431
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Still no official word on whether Heather Forsyth keeps her seat. The two polls yet to report are advance polls, so I think she may have a very good shot here if it's true that late-deciders favoured the Tories.
Anyone in that district who thought they'd stay home because their vote "didn't count" kind of has egg on their face now...
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04-24-2012, 12:26 AM
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#432
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Originally Posted by kn
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That is interesting. You'd think that students would trend more to the left (see: Edmonton-Strathcona) rather than being a reflection of what actually ends up happening. Very interesting that the student elections have accurately reflected what actually happens for many years now.
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04-24-2012, 12:28 AM
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Voted for Kodos
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Apparently the last polls coming for for McCall were advance polls. Kang wins by nearly 700 votes.
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04-24-2012, 12:29 AM
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So...How about that Senate race...Exciting, huh?
Are they just going to count the votes at some later date, or what's the story?
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04-24-2012, 12:31 AM
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by getbak
So...How about that Senate race...Exciting, huh?
Are they just going to count the votes at some later date, or what's the story?
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The three PC Candidates have the most votes. The third place one isn't very far ahead of a couple of the WRP candidates.
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04-24-2012, 12:34 AM
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#436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Apparently the last polls coming for for McCall were advance polls. Kang wins by nearly 700 votes.
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Crikey. Apparently I should have listened to you.
(in my defense, the Herald interactive map really did call it...)
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04-24-2012, 12:34 AM
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#437
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Lifetime Suspension
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At least I'm getting my new car before a PST is introduced. Won't have to pay that extra tax...yet.
<sigh>
My take on what happened:
"I want change!" <marks same old box when they vote> Hypocrites. So unbelievable.
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04-24-2012, 12:36 AM
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#438
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
Crikey. Apparently I should have listened to you.
(in my defense, the Herald interactive map really did call it...)
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CBC was calling it for Galpin on their website too - and in fact still is.
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04-24-2012, 12:38 AM
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#439
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
CBC was calling it for Galpin on their website too.
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That makes me wonder about the advance polls in Fish Creek. It's taking a while, so it's reasonable to assume there are a lot of votes there--I wonder if Forsyth ends up winning by a decent margin, assuming her campaign was more organized in terms of getting people to the polls.
Just when I thought I could finally go to bed. Why do I do this to myself?
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04-24-2012, 12:41 AM
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
That makes me wonder about the advance polls in Fish Creek. It's taking a while, so it's reasonable to assume there are a lot of votes there--I wonder if Forsyth ends up winning by a decent margin, assuming her campaign was more organized in terms of getting people to the polls.
Just when I thought I could finally go to bed. Why do I do this to myself? 
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The last two polls reporting in Calgary- McCall were huge. Kang had 2300 votes before them, and after them, had 3800.
I wouldn't call any riding within several hundred votes yet if there are still polls outstanding.
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