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Old 04-20-2012, 07:59 AM   #2961
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Alison Redford is gonna be on CJAY with Forbes in about 30 minutes...should be interesting
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:06 AM   #2962
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It is amusing how every single PC ad these days is nothing but "Wildrose is scary booga booga". Only thing those spots show me is that the PCs really are done, and Redford is a terrible leader who does not belong in the Premier's chair.
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I do find it surprising that people think the Wildrose can do all of what they say without cuts though. They somehow have a way to reduce taxes, increase spending and improve services AND giveaway money to boot. Its a miracle!
No too many people including me think that any party can deliver all they promise in a campaign. But I find it surprising that you only closely scrutinize WR but not Redford or Liberal's numbers. That's OK except that I remember a saying that hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.
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It is amusing how every single PC ad these days is nothing but "Wildrose is scary booga booga". Only thing those spots show me is that the PCs really are done, and Redford is a terrible leader who does not belong in the Premier's chair.
It's been one of the worse political campaigns in recent times, rivalling the failed campaign of Ignatieff last May. I see the PCs having record low seats. I would put the current under/over of PC seats won at 35 out of 87.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:40 AM   #2965
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I don't think any of the campaigns have been particularly well run and that many people in this election feel like they're choosing between two mediocre parties. I'll give the Wildrose a bit more credit for not being as outwardly negative as the PCs have been though.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:46 AM   #2966
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It's been one of the worse political campaigns in recent times, rivalling the failed campaign of Ignatieff last May.
When I first saw the PC "It's Not Worth The Risk" slogan, I got the exact same feeling.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #2967
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And yet how many times have we heard that this is how gay rights and access to abortion will be rolled back!
Yes. Although it begs the question of why bother at all. Just a meaningless bone for the base?
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #2968
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http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...646/story.html

I got like 3 calls from WR yesterday telling about advance poll and voting. At first, I thought they should get the act together not to call the same donor (me) several times. Now, I know it's actually PC who's behind this. Thinking back, only one of the calls asked for more WR donation which I think was the genuine one. The rest just told me to go vote and those were fake ones.
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I don't think any of the campaigns have been particularly well run and that many people in this election feel like they're choosing between two mediocre parties. I'll give the Wildrose a bit more credit for not being as outwardly negative as the PCs have been though.
I think the Wildrose campaign has been ok. They are getting their message out there and their platform is clear. The autocalls are a bit annoying but it's a very short 4 week campaign so it's still better than candidates not trying to contact people at all.

Yes there have been some controversies and a few loose cannons but we shouldn't paint the entire party, it's other candidates or it's staff and volunteers all under one brush.
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Globe and Mail endorses PCs:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2408209/

The question is, which party best represents change: The upstart Wildrose under leader Danielle Smith, with its populist brand of conservatism? Or, odd as it may sound, the Conservatives under Premier Alison Redford?

The answer is surprising. As a change agent, Wildrose is remarkably change-averse.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:20 AM   #2971
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Since when were newspapers in the endorsement business?
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Since when were newspapers in the endorsement business?
The Globe and Mail explains why here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...icle2408009/?1

Thanks for your question, Lucy. In fact, newspapers have a long tradition of providing endorsements in elections. We editorialize on all sorts of issues all year long, offering views on government policy, foreign issues, business debates. Why wouldn't we also offer views on which leader and party has the most sensible platform, or is best situated to lead a province or the country? I doubt very much that people read an editorial and religiously follow its recommendation. I think, however, it's one valuable bit of information that voters take into consideration.

The Globe employs Albertans, the Globe is read in Alberta, and the Globe endorses in elections across Canada. If we ignored the Alberta election, I expect we'd be hearing complaints that we don't care about what goes on in Alberta, that we slighted the province. So of course we endorse, just as we did in Ontario, and we do in most provincial elections.
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I got like 3 calls from WR yesterday telling about advance poll and voting. At first, I thought they should get the act together not to call the same donor (me) several times. Now, I know it's actually PC who's behind this. Thinking back, only one of the calls asked for more WR donation which I think was the genuine one. The rest just told me to go vote and those were fake ones.
It could be any party, not only the PCs. What are you basing that on?

Going after those kids for their video just shows how election laws are behind the times. I totally understand the intent of the laws, but this doesn't seem appropriate. Its just easier for a small group of people (as we see there) to try to influence voters, and whether you agree or disagree with the message, we should be encouraging people to get involved.

I doubt those kids had any idea they were breaking the law when they made that video, and while ignorance isn't the test, it should be considered when its a group of citizens and them alone.
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Since when were newspapers in the endorsement business?
How long have their been newspapers?
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I think the Wildrose campaign has been ok. They are getting their message out there and their platform is clear. The autocalls are a bit annoying but it's a very short 4 week campaign so it's still better than candidates not trying to contact people at all.

Yes there have been some controversies and a few loose cannons but we shouldn't paint the entire party, it's other candidates or it's staff and volunteers all under one brush.
I certainly wouldn't count what the individual outliers in the WR have said as part of their central campaign, those are just crazy people with crazy thoughts who (hopefully) don't find their way into the legislature. With that said, I agree with Nenshi and am disappointed Danielle didn't strongly condemn them for the remarks. I get everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions, but it doesn't help Alberta shed the "redneck" label at all.

I would agree that the WR has done better than the PCs at getting their message out there, but I think the Libs and NDP have done a better job outlining their platform (even if its unpopular). I think the WR hasn't been in depth enough for my liking as to their ideas to fix some of the issues. I'm definetely rooting for a minority so one of the parties (or another perhaps) can distinguish themselves and give the general populace a real alternative.
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Great article on the election

www2.macleans.ca/2012/04/20/one-wild-rise/
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How long have their been newspapers?
Interesting.. I guess I never really noticed until now.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:35 AM   #2978
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Hidden agenda! The Quebec flag, the only visible flag in the background, shows me she plans on seperating, and joining forces with them and the Vulcans to destory earth!
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I got like 3 calls from WR yesterday telling about advance poll and voting. At first, I thought they should get the act together not to call the same donor (me) several times. Now, I know it's actually PC who's behind this. Thinking back, only one of the calls asked for more WR donation which I think was the genuine one. The rest just told me to go vote and those were fake ones.
The GOTV effort from WR will be strong. Most of our candidates are using live callers, so they can take you off the list once confirmed you have voted. Some with smaller budgets or fewer volunteers will be using automated calls.

As I understand it the calls in question are predominately in the Grande Prairie area and a couple isolated ones in Calgary.
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I am surprised that nobody in the media has talked about whether Redford can even survive a leadership review in 12 months. I suspect she is done regardless of what happens on Monday, which makes the fact that some progressives are voting for her even more puzzling. They will vote for a PC candidate, then if by some miracle the PC Party wins the election they will have a Ted Morton type as the Premier after Redford is booted and replaced by a more conservative option.

Although it will be humorous to see the progressives cry and moan about how Premier Morton was not what they were voting for and how could this happen etc. etc.
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