Serious question. All these guys (Hunsperger, Leech) knew they were running for public office. Why did they not have the foresight to maybe delete these things in advance?
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Leech — who goes by the honorific “Dr. Leech,” though his doctorate comes from an unaccredited institution — said he would not have posted the things Hunsperger did.
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The fearmongering is complete BS and does not contribute to the electoral process in a positive way but when questioned about it, if you confirm it, then by definition, it really isn't fearmongering any more but simply pointing out what is true.
Pointing out what a person might do, if elected is fear mongering. It's so easy to take someones words and create fear. All parties do this and I hate that crap. All parties must think we're so stupid that we can't make informed descions.
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Perhaps you are saying that if racists, bigots or other undesirable people were elected to office, it wouldn't really change things on a provincial level, because the party as a whole would not try and enact legislation to support those positions. If that is the case, then I agree with you 100%.
Pointing out what a person might do, if elected is fear mongering. It's so easy to take someones words and create fear.
No is is claiming that the WRA is going to harken in an era of racial segregation, merely pointing out how out of step some of their candidates are with modern liberal society. I still don't that is fear mongering. I mean yes, it does happen, and you're right, the response to conscience rights probably falls under that banner. This is different however.
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Thats why Flames fans make ideal Star Trek fans. We've really been taught to embrace the self-loathing and extreme criticism.
I fail to see that connection from the article, at least in the sense that you mean.
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Let me say first that I believe all sin is equally reprehensible to God, and He does not identify "levels of sin." ...
First, were homosexuality at all legitimate, the Bible would include options other than natural heterosexuality; yet homosexuality is only ever condemned.
So, second, homosexuality, like every other sin, is a conscious rebellion against divinely created order. Scriptures (like Romans 1:26-32) clearly call homosexual behaviour sinful. To deliberately choose to practise a sin is intentional rebellion.
Third, deliberately sterile homosexuality violates God's intention for human creation itself. The Bible says, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. So God blessed them and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it.' " (Genesis 1:27-28)
Fourth, homosexuality distorts the image of God. The image of God comprises both male and female, a complementarity eternal and everlasting.
I believe that is the gist of it.
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
First, were homosexuality at all legitimate, the Bible would include options other than natural heterosexuality; yet homosexuality is only ever condemned.
So, second, homosexuality, like every other sin, is a conscious rebellion against divinely created order. Scriptures (like Romans 1:26-32) clearly call homosexual behaviour sinful. To deliberately choose to practise a sin is intentional rebellion.
Third, deliberately sterile homosexuality violates God's intention for human creation itself. The Bible says, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. So God blessed them and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it.' " (Genesis 1:27-28)
Fourth, homosexuality distorts the image of God. The image of God comprises both male and female, a complementarity eternal and everlasting.
Wait, sorry, he loves homosexuals, he just hates one of the deeply personal, unchangable characteristics that makes them who they are as people, or as he calls it, their "sin".
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
Yup, but that certainly doesn't mean that homosexuality is on par with rape in the sense that Bunk was getting at.
No? If homosexuality and rape are both sins, and Leech believes that all sin is equally reprehensible to God, and He does not identify "levels of sin", what does Leech mean?
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
No? If homosexuality and rape are both sins, and Leech believes that all sin is equally reprehensible to God, and He does not identify "levels of sin", what does Leech mean?
That God doesn't quantify sin. So basically being gay to God is as wrong as stealing a Mars bar from 7/11, which is equal in God's eyes to murder.
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Thats why Flames fans make ideal Star Trek fans. We've really been taught to embrace the self-loathing and extreme criticism.
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No is is claiming that the WRA is going to harken in an era of racial segregation, merely pointing out how out of step some of their candidates are with modern liberal society.
The goal is to get voters to vote for the PC party. They think invoking fear is the best way to garner votes. Tell me what you're going to do and not what the other guy might do.
The goal is to get voters to vote for the PC party. They think invoking fear is the best way to garner votes. Tell me what you're going to do and not what the other guy might do.
I don't disagree, I just don't think reporting stupid comments is fear mongering.
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Thats why Flames fans make ideal Star Trek fans. We've really been taught to embrace the self-loathing and extreme criticism.
Pointing out what a person might do, if elected is fear mongering. It's so easy to take someones words and create fear. All parties do this and I hate that crap. All parties must think we're so stupid that we can't make informed descions.
That's what i'm saying.
It's also fearmongering in the sense that many of the PC party candidates hold exactly the same views. Look up Morton's vigorous attack on gay marriage in the papers. Yet, Nanny Redford would have you believe ONLY the wildrose would have these kinds of viewpoints.
There's probably equally batshizzle crazy quotes from the Liberals and NDP, but because they have no chance at forming government, they don't recieve nearly the same amount of scrutiny.
