Yay backhanded Jays insults. Damn all the national media writers, scouts, and experts for speaking highly about the Jays. All just sunshine being blown up your arse
Sensitive? Such mean words I speak of your beloved Jays.
I said that Anthopolus pulled off a miracle getting rid of Wells. Is that not true? I stand by my comments that I think Toronto media lays it on pretty thick when it comes to the Blue Jays, especially in terms of the team they have this season. It's a city littered with awful sports teams, and while the Jays are far from awful, they're currently a mediocre ball team albeit with a bright future.
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Sensitive? Such mean words I speak of your beloved Jays.
I said that Anthopolus pulled off a miracle getting rid of Wells. Is that not true? I stand by my comments that I think Toronto media lays it on pretty thick when it comes to the Blue Jays, especially in terms of the team they have this season. It's a city littered with awful sports teams, and while the Jays are far from awful, they're currently a mediocre ball team albeit with a bright future.
I just have to laugh at the Toronto Media part. The Toronto Media?! Who in the Toronto Media? That is the definition of an old boys club and they are the furthest thing from Jays cheerleaders. No question getting someone to take Walls and give something of value in return was truly a miracle, I just wanted to hear more about why this Jays media machine you speak of, is just blowing smoke up your keester.
I just have to laugh at the Toronto Media part. The Toronto Media?! Who in the Toronto Media? That is the definition of an old boys club and they are the furthest thing from Jays cheerleaders. No question getting someone to take Walls and give something of value in return was truly a miracle, I just wanted to hear more about why this Jays media machine you speak of, is just blowing smoke up your keester.
I think Roger's has been drifting toward the propaganda-ish slant on their coverage. The broadcasts are Hughson-Canuck territory and I don't give them any benefit of the doubt since they suspended Wilner for challenging Cito on false statements.
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I just have to laugh at the Toronto Media part. The Toronto Media?! Who in the Toronto Media? That is the definition of an old boys club and they are the furthest thing from Jays cheerleaders. No question getting someone to take Walls and give something of value in return was truly a miracle, I just wanted to hear more about why this Jays media machine you speak of, is just blowing smoke up your keester.
Tabler and Martinez on the telecasts lay it on thick.
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I just have to laugh at the Toronto Media part. The Toronto Media?! Who in the Toronto Media? That is the definition of an old boys club and they are the furthest thing from Jays cheerleaders. No question getting someone to take Walls and give something of value in return was truly a miracle, I just wanted to hear more about why this Jays media machine you speak of, is just blowing smoke up your keester.
The guys on Fan 590 definitely have been big homers this year. Wilner always has been a fanboy but listening to PTS this year Mccown and pretty much everyone of his guests have all been way over their top in their assessment of the team this year. Elliot seems to be the only one that is fairly grounded in his assessment.
On Sportsnet Campbell like Wilner has always been a fanboy no difference this year, but what I did find odd is that Buck this year has turned into a big homer which definitely wasn't there last year.
Of course Tabler and Martinez are Jays homers. Any of the regional Sportsnet hockey telecasts are the same for their respective teams. With the Jays being Canada's only team and the majority of Canadian baseball fans are Jays fans, I don't see any reason it shouldn't be a Jays favoured broadcast.
As for the media laying it on thick, most of the positive media buzz about the Jays is coming from outside of Toronto.
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Tabler and Martinez on the telecasts lay it on thick.
They always have been and I'd hardly call that the Toronto media. Everyone in their right mind knows to not take anything those two say that seriously.
I've just seen a tone of people saying that Jays fans are just drinking AA kool-aid and similar to what you had said before. Fact is: The praise that's been worth noting and I've actually paid attention to has been from the outside baseball world. Rosenthal, Law, ESPN, MLB TV, hell even Larry King!
I just don't like the narrative that this is somehow a Toronto created hype machine and Blue Jays hyping up the Blue Jays. The tone simply seems to be that is a good baseball team, it could challenge for a playoff spot but still going to be tough to do.
The guys on Fan 590 definitely have been big homers this year. Wilner always has been a fanboy but listening to PTS this year Mccown and pretty much everyone of his guests have all been way over their top in their assessment of the team this year. Elliot seems to be the only one that is fairly grounded in his assessment.
On Sportsnet Campbell like Wilner has always been a fanboy no difference this year, but what I did find odd is that Buck this year has turned into a big homer which definitely wasn't there last year.
Please, you're calling Bob McCowan over the top in favor of the Jays? Give me a break. He's still the same one who wants Prince Fielder and echos whatever Greg Zaun says when he comes on the show. Fact is, the local Toronto media clearly have said nothing over the top about this team. As linked above, nearly none of them even picked them to make the playoffs.
Way over the top? Please show me anyone that has said this team is a lock to make the playoffs or win the World Series. Fact is most of the talk about the Jays has been from outside of the city, and even optimism from people in Toronto has been optimism has been far from over the top.
I think Roger's has been drifting toward the propaganda-ish slant on their coverage. The broadcasts are Hughson-Canuck territory and I don't give them any benefit of the doubt since they suspended Wilner for challenging Cito on false statements.
Wilner was suspended for much more then challenging Cito Gaston on false statements. He got slammed pretty hard by others in the Toronto media for how he conducted himself. There's a lot more to that story.
Again, I don't think Pat Tabler and Buck Martinez are much different from any other season and really, how much stock are you putting into what either of them say?
Please, you're calling Bob McCowan over the top in favor of the Jays? Give me a break. He's still the same one who wants Prince Fielder and echos whatever Greg Zaun says when he comes on the show. Fact is, the local Toronto media clearly have said nothing over the top about this team. As linked above, nearly none of them even picked them to make the playoffs.
Have you listened to him this year? Yes he wants Fielder but that is because he compares this team to the 91-92 team and thinks Fielder is the missing piece to get them multiple WS titles.
In previous years I agree he hasn't been the biggest cheerleader but this year he is definitely over the top.
Have you listened to him this year? Yes he wants Fielder but that is because he compares this team to the 91-92 team and thinks Fielder is the missing piece to get them multiple WS titles.
In previous years I agree he hasn't been the biggest cheerleader but this year he is definitely over the top.
The comparisons have been very small and you're making it out to be much more. Nobody in the Toronto media has predicted this team to do anything besides a few that said they could make the playoffs. If anyone can show me evidence to the contrary, please do. Fact is the entire baseball world is talking highly of the Jays, nobody is calling this team more then it is, a good team with a bright future.
The comparisons have been very small and you're making it out to be much more. Nobody in the Toronto media has predicted this team to do anything besides a few that said they could make the playoffs. If anyone can show me evidence to the contrary, please do. Fact is the entire baseball world is talking highly of the Jays, nobody is calling this team more then it is, a good team with a bright future.
I think a lot of the disagreement may come from our very different views on what the Jays are. What I hear as overrating/puffing up the team may be things that you see as true.
I will say as someone who listens to PTS everyday and is not a Jays fan it gets tough this year to listen to the overrating of the team.
Outside of a few articles on ESPN I haven't seen a whole lot of love for the Jays outside of some people saying they might be good in the future but still behind the other 3 in the division this year and long term.
I think a lot of the disagreement may come from our very different views on what the Jays are. What I hear as overrating/puffing up the team may be things that you see as true.
I will say as someone who listens to PTS everyday and is not a Jays fan it gets tough this year to listen to the overrating of the team.
Outside of a few articles on ESPN I haven't seen a whole lot of love for the Jays outside of some people saying they might be good in the future but still behind the other 3 in the division this year and long term.
Rosenthal, Law, MLB TV, Brian Cashman, the list goes on and on. Clearly you're not looking hard enough. A ton of people in the baseball world are giving the Jays a lot of love. This is not something manifested in Toronto....
And even the very strong majority of Jays fans and supporters are saying the same thing, this team could be good enough to make the playoffs but also has one of the best systems in the majors right now and is only going to get better.
I'm saying nobody is saying this team is a lock to be in the playoffs or World Series bound. Direct me towards an article from anyone in the Toronto media or baseball world that says this.
The Jays deserve to be talked about as a good baseball team. That's what they are. They deserve to have one of the highest ranked prospect pool, because they have it. They still have work to do to get over that hump, but nobody in the media is making a projection that they can't do it in the future as you try to paint that picture.....
Rosenthal, Law, MLB TV, Brian Cashman, the list goes on and on. Clearly you're not looking hard enough. A ton of people in the baseball world are giving the Jays a lot of love. This is not something manifested in Toronto....
I have heard/read Rosenthal, Cashman and Law and what they said and none of it is close to what I hear on the radio and message boards about the Jays.
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Direct me towards an article from anyone in the Toronto media or baseball world that says this.
I don't read Toronto articles and have said this is from listening to TO radio so I would direct to many of the Friday round tables as they are the easiest to find but pretty much any show after a game day would work. Watch the broadcasts and listen to Campbell or any radio show with Campbell or Wilner on it.
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The Jays deserve to be talked about as a good baseball team. That's what they are. They deserve to have one of the highest ranked prospect pool, because they have it. They still have work to do to get over that hump, but nobody in the media is making a projection that they can't do it in the future as you try to paint that picture.....
Again something we disagree about and likely a big reason for the disgreement about whether their is smoke blown up the fans @ss or not.
I have heard/read Rosenthal, Cashman and Law and what they said and none of it is close to what I hear on the radio and message boards about the Jays.
I don't read Toronto articles and have said this is from listening to TO radio so I would direct to many of the Friday round tables as they are the easiest to find but pretty much any show after a game day would work. Watch the broadcasts and listen to Campbell or any radio show with Campbell or Wilner on it.
Again something we disagree about and likely a big reason for the disgreement about whether their is smoke blown up the fans @ss or not.
Even Wilner didn't pick the Jays to be in the playoffs. Nobody even on Toronto radio has said any irrational like the Jays are a lock to make the playoffs.
And sorry you disagree with every prospect ranking done this summer that I choose to believe the Jays farm system is strong. When everyone starts saying it, every organizational ranking, every prospect expert says it, I tend to believe the Jays farm system is pretty damn good. I'll take the opinions of numerous experts over well.....you.
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“This is not a long-term project anymore,” Cashman said. “They are knocking on the door. It is undeniable that they are going to win and win for a while. They are reaping the benefits of great scouting, patience and doing things right.”
Really Moon? Nothing close to what you hear on the message boards or radio? Please direct me to these message boards and magical places where people are rating the Jays even higher then what Cashman did. Fact is the large amount of Jays fans simply believe this team is a good baseball team, and could have a great future. That is the going belief and it's one shared in the outside baseball world.
