04-09-2012, 08:18 PM
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#101
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Ugly game for Santos. Hope the Jays bats can get something done in the bottom half.
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Yeah...but dont you dare call it a blown save or you will be labeled a casual fan!! 
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04-09-2012, 08:19 PM
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#102
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Is this half of the inning ever going to end?
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04-09-2012, 08:19 PM
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#103
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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It's much more than just a blown save now, 3 runs given up. Regardless of what terminology is used, 3 runs given up in 0.2 of an inning is not good.
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04-09-2012, 08:19 PM
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#104
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#1 Goaltender
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This is just ugly.
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Connor Zary will win the Hart Trophy in 2027.
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04-09-2012, 08:20 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Man this Santos guy is brutal. Why is he a closer?
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04-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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#106
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flames_1987
No, it's not. Santos did not "blow" this game for the Jays. I really could care less about an outdated statistic casual fans still find the need to reference.
Edit: Allowing these extra runs sure is ugly though.
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So...he didnt fail to hold the lead?
Blown save is a blown save no matter what your advanced statistical elitism genre wanna call it
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04-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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#107
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#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
It's much more than just a blown save now, 3 runs given up. Regardless of what terminology is used, 3 runs given up in 0.2 of an inning is not good.
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It's certainly not and he's blown up, and has no confidence right now. This discussion started when the Red sox had tied it 2-2
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04-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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#108
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Yeah...but dont you dare call it a blown save or you will be labeled a casual fan!! |
Blown save, blowing the game..........whatever. When you see Santos pitch this terribly he blew no matter how you want to label it.
If the Sox were getting their bats on some fantastic pitches then I could understand him not 'blowing it'..........but truth is that Santos looks horrible. No confidence, no command. He blew it.
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04-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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#109
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hope this bum is released
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04-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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#110
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Powerplay Quarterback
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at least when the Jays come up to bat, they will not face Papelbon...
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04-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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I always think it's cute that Blue Jay fans find the guts to boo their players when they can hardly find the time to attend thhe other 80 home games per season.
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04-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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#112
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Do the Jays have any other real option than Santos in a save situation though?
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04-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
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Who is this gas can?
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04-09-2012, 08:25 PM
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#114
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Do the Jays have any other real option than Santos in a save situation though?
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Sure anyone really can be a closer, it's just another inning. Casey Janssen can be the next closer.
But 2 blown saves does not a season make.
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04-09-2012, 08:25 PM
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#115
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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OK, let's get this done. Forget about that disaster and get swinging.
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04-09-2012, 08:25 PM
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#116
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Wise Gamble
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hopefully, it is nerves and pressure for being so highly touted and pitching on opening night.
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04-09-2012, 08:28 PM
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#117
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#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
So...he didnt fail to hold the lead?
Blown save is a blown save no matter what your advanced statistical elitism genre wanna call it
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Don't try and play the card that it's just someone using advanced metrics or anything like that. It's more then just a popular thought, in the baseball world the Save statistic and blown save statistic are useless and outdated. We've discussed this already in the Jays threads this season already.
Santos struggled, this conversation started when it was 2-2. At this time he had allowed one hit, and had a sacrifice come in thanks to a passed ball by the catcher.
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04-09-2012, 08:28 PM
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#118
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#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wise Gamble
Hope this bum is released
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Are you kidding me?
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04-09-2012, 08:29 PM
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#119
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Sure anyone really can be a closer, it's just another inning. Casey Janssen can be the next closer.
But 2 blown saves does not a season make.
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oliver and cordero are veteran closers from past teams that can help until Santos get it together...
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04-09-2012, 08:29 PM
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#120
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#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Blown save, blowing the game..........whatever. When you see Santos pitch this terribly he blew no matter how you want to label it.
If the Sox were getting their bats on some fantastic pitches then I could understand him not 'blowing it'..........but truth is that Santos looks horrible. No confidence, no command. He blew it.
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He was awful. No doubt, there's no advanced statistic that would say otherwise. He did not blow this game for the Jays by any means though. Not even close
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