PS3 Could Be Delayed

[Inferno]

I'm so sick of the new games that come out now a days, no content, no story line, just graphics and other bull****.

That's not the case with every single game though. I've played and own alot of games where the single player might not be particularly long but extra things they have make you play the game longer and make it worth the money you spend. Lets not forget either that back when Nintendo dominated the market that they released some mediocre games as well. That's part of everything whether it be games, music, movies. .etc.

[Hack&Lube]

The Revolution will try to be the innovative console. Not the one flashing the graphics or typical gameplay. Did you see the video with the controller? It was great, like you can play tennis by moving the controller like a racquet, etc.

Also, the Revolution's Development kit is only $2000 USD, so there's speculation that this will bring back 'indie' games by smaller developers which will hopefully mean lower costs and more innovative and varied design.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Did you see the video with the controller? It was great, like you can play tennis by moving the controller like a racquet, etc.

Yes, I did but really it didnt excite me at all. If this was 1990 I would probably cream my pants but now it gets a big 'meh' from me.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Inferno

What are they going to make next? Mario Curling?

Mario Curling?!?




I'm SO buying that game when it comes out.

[tripin_billie]

Gaming for me comes down to this: Why pay sooo much money for a console that is basically offerring a catch-up to pc graphics. When the Revolution comes out, I will buy it because it is going to be backwards compatible with my cube games and well, Nintendo in general makes the most FUN games ever. I could care less if I can't play gta on it, or a wwII shooter. Whoever tries to tell me that shooters are better on a console is out to lunch. i'll stick with the pc for those.

So how does Nintendo always sucker me in? the good games, and the fact that 90% of the ps2 or xbox games eventually made their way to pc. I can wait for stuff to be on PC. The Nintendo games never make it, they don't allow it. And to think of gaming without the Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, etc characters would be blasphemy.

Also, that wand thing has me drooling for the first Star Wars game that uses it as a light saber.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by tripin_billie

I could care less if I can't play gta on it, or a wwII shooter. Whoever tries to tell me that shooters are better on a console is out to lunch. i'll stick with the pc for those.

So will I. I cant imagine playing a FPS with a controller. I tried playing MOH: Rising Sun on my sister's boyfriend's PS2 and had a hell of a time aiming. The games I will get will be games I cant get on PC such as fighting, boxing, and wrestling games. I'll also finally be able to try the NHL 2K series.

[Ranchlander]

The only reason I buy consoles is if they have good rpg (final fantasy, zelda ocarina of time, etc), good sports games (madden, espn hockey etc.), or anything else that beats what the pc has to offer.

If this PS3 isn't up to par though, and the 360 isn't either, what the hell am I gonna do? I been saving up for a few years now. Is the revolution gonna be as weak as the last nintendo system?

[CaramonLS]

Whoever releases the best games is going to get my dollar.

I know Xbox360 is going to be coming out with ElderScrolls 4: Oblivion, which is supposed to be absolutely amazing.

However, it is coming out on PC as well, since my system is pretty solid as is, I'll probably get it for PC (supposedly it runs a little better on PC as well).

[FlamesAddiction]

Well, I just got a PS2, so I don't really care how long it takes for the PS3 to come out.

I am surprised that they actually lose money on the systems.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Whoever releases the best games is going to get my dollar.

I know Xbox360 is going to be coming out with ElderScrolls 4: Oblivion, which is supposed to be absolutely amazing.

However, it is coming out on PC as well, since my system is pretty solid as is, I'll probably get it for PC (supposedly it runs a little better on PC as well).

The new Gamespot hands on actually has the pace of Oblivion faster on the 360 than PC. Everything is essentially the same though.

I have a 360 because quite frankly I didn't have the money to actually buy a game capable PC and when i did do PC gaming I hated having to upgrade everything every 18 months.

But for those that don't mind doing that then certainly go with the PC. But for console gaming 360 hands down.

As for games...Fight Night is great as is Need for Speed Most Wanted. There are several other very good games and the graphics difference between old console and 360 versions can be astounding. But you do need an HD preferably widescreen TV to take full advantage of the 360.

[CaramonLS]

That is really strange ernie, the exact opposite was said on IGN hands on.

They claimed PC was quicker when they went to play it. But it was essentially the same game.

[Bill Bumface]

I don't get how people expect the Revolution to succeed without 720p. When people are spending so much on televisions capable of displaying these formats they want their console to be able to take advantage of them. I think this will be Nintendo's last stand in the console end of things.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

That is really strange ernie, the exact opposite was said on IGN hands on.

They claimed PC was quicker when they went to play it. But it was essentially the same game.

Indeed they say opposite things. Is it possible Gamespot has a Beta version and is testing it on their own machines while we know IGN used the developer rigs? Might just be an issue of PC power. Very top of the line setups leading to a slightly faster pace compared to the 360 but vice versa with other PCs.

Either way it looks to be a great game on either platform and if you liked Morrowwind this shouldn't be a disappointment. 20-25 hours of mainquest gameplay.....200+ hours if you want to try to do everything (which based on Morrowind will only be possible if you play several different times with different alliances etc).

In other news the new Tomb Raider is supposed to get back to the things that made the first one good. They recently announced Keeley Hawes to be the voice of Lara this time round. Keeley is pretty much unknown in North America but if you have BBC Canada she played Zoe Reynolds on Spooks (also airs as MI-5 on A&E).

[Bobblehead]

I just read an article talking about how difficult it is for IBM to develop the compiler for the Cel processor. In short, the article said "The Cel processor is hugely powerful. The Cel processor is hugely complex. To take advantage of everything will take a long time and a huge amount of smarts. And they want it released by the end of 2006."

So it sounds like they can get some product out by the end of 2006, but it will take quite a while before there are enough knowledgable developers out there to really take advantage of everything this chip has to offer.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

So it sounds like they can get some product out by the end of 2006, but it will take quite a while before there are enough knowledgable developers out there to really take advantage of everything this chip has to offer.

That's what the developers have been saying. Though they have been saying based on the configuration and resource allocation of the PS3 it actually only has only a touch more power. But yeah the developers are all pretty much saying at this time that it is much more difficult to program for. It may mean a much longer lag time before the power can be harnessed and the console shown off to the best of its abilities. With the 360 already starting to show off with Fight Night and soon Oblivion it may be a bit of a struggle for the PS3. Especially if it's $600 . They will be pitting their first genreation games up against 3rd generation games for the 360. It will still be successful i'm sure but I think the Microsoft vs sony gap will be closed considerably. 360 software titles are taking the monthly sales race indicating that people are still buying the 360...probably in greater numbers now that you can walk in and get one anywhere.

The pressure is on Sony. They need a success with this and are banking a lot on Blu-Ray...which consumers at this time aren't all that excited about. Given a choice between a cheaper HD-DVD and Blu-Ray the consumer is going to pick the cheap one (or nothing at all)....just like VHS vs Beta. And to make matters worse I think you are going to see the same supply problems from Sony as it is a complex machine to make and they will have poor chip yields as Microsoft did.

[Bobblehead]

Now I'm reading that the delay may be inevitable due to Blu-ray mass production problems.

I'm really torn on the PS3. I like the idea, but I really hate the DRM that comes along with Blu-Ray and don't want to support that type of tech (DRM); Sony already has a black eye from DRM, and never did apologize. The PS3 is like a trojan horse for bringing DRM into my house.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Now I'm reading that the delay may be inevitable due to Blu-ray mass production problems.

I'm really torn on the PS3. I like the idea, but I really hate the DRM that comes along with Blu-Ray and don't want to support that type of tech (DRM); Sony already has a black eye from DRM, and never did apologize. The PS3 is like a trojan horse for bringing DRM into my house.

As i said it's a complex machine using new technology all over the place. It isn't just the processors but you then have the Blu-Ray issues etc. It is one huge quality control headache for one of those issues let alone the migraine that results when you have several of these things to deal with. Sony is way too quiet on the PS3 front and have been for a year now. Instead of preparing for a PS3 launch they are dropping PS2 prices and revamping the PSP.

[Hakan]

The PS3 is looking more and more like a train wreck.

Give me ease of use, stability and simplicity for a console system. That's what you want right? Something that plays games. Why is everyone convinced that the better system will be the one that can cook your dinner, play DVDs and brew a cup of coffee.

Another reason why I believe the Revolution will be successful. It focuses on just games.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Hakan

Why is everyone convinced that the better system will be the one that can cook your dinner, play DVDs and brew a cup of coffee.

Because if you can have one connection/component that plays games or plays DVDs then that is one less component you need to buy.

I'm as bad as anyone, I took an older PC, put MythTV on it, and now it records TV, Plays CDs and DVDs, and will even play arcade games (through MAME, but I haven't actually set this part up yet). Now if I wasn't afraid to lose the 2 years of Alias episodes my wife has recorded, I'd tear teh whole thing apart, put it in a nice machine in my living room and wouldn't need the DVD/PVR/Game console (theoretically at least).

This is the same reason that phones also do email, play games, take pictures and play music. People would rather have one gadget that does everything rather than carry 3 or 4. In the livingroom they would rather have have one thing to connect to the TV than 2 or 3.

Personally, I agree with you. I would rather have a 'good' dvd player and a 'good' game console than a hodge-podge.

But I know I heard people say that they bought a PS2 and spent $500+ on it because it would play DVDs, so they used the money they would have spent on the DVD player on it instead.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Heaton

The Revolution will be the best system when it's all said and done. I have no idea why anyone would buy a 360, it came out with 0 good games that aren't already on the regular XBOX. You're paying for graphics, and if you don't have an HDTV, you're just wasting your money.

The PS3 will be a ton better, but will probably cost almost double, if they come out with some good games during the launch it could end up being the top between the two.

I can't wait for the Revolution because of their feature to be able to play any game from any Nintendo console ever. I'm so sick of the new games that come out now a days, no content, no story line, just graphics and other bull****. I remember when games used to take 50 hours to beat, now they give you fable and it's over in 10. yay, thanks for wasting my $50.

I'm all over this post. I'm eagerly awaiting the Nintendo Revolution myself as my most wanted console for next gen. I'll probably get a PS3 also due to the amount of RPG's (my fav. genre by far) that traditionally hit the system. The xbox360 does absolutely nothing for me. It is a machine that is little more than "better graffixx1!!1" (and hardly even that for most games so far) with HD support. I do not own a HDTV and probably won't for a few years. The xbox360 is incredibly lack-lustre to me at this pont.

Nintendo FTW. This free hand control thing could rock my socks off. I can't wait to see some games and how the controller interacts with them.