You Have Bad Taste In Music

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Sep 19 2004, 04:07 PM

What MM says it true in a "guitar" rock band, but in a funk rock band, the bass player is tops.

Excellent point!

[calgaryred]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Sep 19 2004, 02:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Sep 19 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-calgaryred@Sep 19 2004, 03:42 PM
The music industry isn't about variety and creativity it's about look and image. That's what acting is about not music

Well certainly some of the music industry is like that, but not all of it. Not even all the music the self-appointed expert hates is made by people chosen because of their looks.

Nickelback isn't famous because Chad Kroeger is some Adonis. He looks like a horse for crying out loud. [/b][/quote]
look and image doesn't always mean beauty. There are alot of ugly homely men out there singing music. Still it's not like Nickelback is doing anything original. it's Creed, Default, Pearl Jam, STP all mashed together. Then you have to think is there any rock that's totally original. Maybe labels have to market the top ten sh*t to get a fan base for it on a wider scale. I have no problem with Chad I've met him many times before he hit it big in South Burnaby. He's a real nice guy, still the music is nothing mind boggling. I wouldn't demonstrate in front of his concerts to walk away.

[HelloHockeyFans]

I also agree about the music snobbery. It drives me up the wall when people start trashing bands/artists for "not having any talent" simply because they personally don't enjoy their music. Same goes for people who trash genres. People who claim that "mainstream rock sucks!" or "rap isn't music!".

Sometimes, I get the feeling that people listen to obscure, lesser-known bands/artists simply for the fact that they aren't as mainstream... because obviously, anything mainstream sucks.

[transplant99]

"rap isn't music!".


IS it? Im not trying to be a smartass or anything, but can it really be considered music?

I would think that music, by definition, would require instruments being played...which i dont see a whole lot of with rap bands.

Its a form of entertainment/singing/art for sure, but calling it "music" would be debateable.

Actually the more i think about it...i guess it is music as it is using various tones/sounds to create a harmonizing sound.

Wow...what a waste of space this was.

Anyhow i agree...people that claim a certain artist 'sucks" because that person doesnt like that artist is not only a snob....but ignorant.

I cant stand opera...but i can surely appreciate the talent and also there is a reason it is popular all over the world, and sells out huge auditoriums at prices that would dwarf the most expensive rock band going.

Beauty is in the ear of the beholder.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by HelloHockeyFans@Sep 20 2004, 02:41 AM

Sometimes, I get the feeling that people listen to obscure, lesser-known bands/artists simply for the fact that they aren't as mainstream... because obviously, anything mainstream sucks.

I think the opposite is true probably way more often:

People listen to mainstream music because it is popular and they think anything less produced and less recognized must be a worse form of music.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by calgaryred+Sep 19 2004, 07:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (calgaryred @ Sep 19 2004, 07:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Well certainly some of the music industry is like that, but not all of it. Not even all the music the self-appointed expert hates is made by people chosen because of their looks.

Nickelback isn't famous because Chad Kroeger is some Adonis. He looks like a horse for crying out loud.

look and image doesn't always mean beauty. There are alot of ugly homely men out there singing music. Still it's not like Nickelback is doing anything original. it's Creed, Default, Pearl Jam, STP all mashed together. Then you have to think is there any rock that's totally original. Maybe labels have to market the top ten sh*t to get a fan base for it on a wider scale. I have no problem with Chad I've met him many times before he hit it big in South Burnaby. He's a real nice guy, still the music is nothing mind boggling. I wouldn't demonstrate in front of his concerts to walk away. [/b][/quote]
I don't want to sound like a snob, but I do not like Nickelback at all.

But that has nothing to do with my point. They are famous for some reason I can't comprehend, but it's not because they are a bunch of beefcakes, as you implied when you said "it's about look and image".

[Displaced Flames fan]

I think the opposite is true probably way more often:

People listen to mainstream music because it is popular and they think anything less produced and less recognized must be a worse form of music.

Write this on your callendar, I agree 100%.

That's right...Displaced Flames Fan AGREES with Flames Addiction.

Take cover, the world may be ending. O_o

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Sep 20 2004, 03:26 AM

Write this on your callendar, I agree 100%.

That's right...Displaced Flames Fan AGREES with Flames Addiction.

Take cover, the world may be ending. O_o

Lol. I'm beside myself!

Seriously though, it's not the first time we have been in agreement. I just don't tend to add my 2 cents into a coversation unless I disagree.

When it comes to hockey related things, I almost always agree with your posts.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I still think the best music is from the 1980's.

http://www.radiomaxmusic.com/specials/t100-80s-01.htm

http://www.radiomaxmusic.com/special...80sfeb2004.htm


Those are two surveys 3 years apart on the best 80's music.

I was born in 1983 so I cant claim that I heard all this on the radio. Thank god for MP3s!!!

[dangler22]

Originally posted by the_only_turek_fan@Sep 20 2004, 03:56 AM
I still think the best music is from the 1980's.

http://www.radiomaxmusic.com/specials/t100-80s-01.htm

http://www.radiomaxmusic.com/special...80sfeb2004.htm


Those are two surveys 3 years apart on the best 80's music.

I was born in 1983 so I cant claim that I heard all this on the radio. Thank god for MP3s!!!

I think I have to agree with you here. 80's music rules. I still have a soft spot for new wave stuff aka synth pop.

[Daradon]

Music snob for sure. And I have a bit of problems with that (though I admit I can sometimes be one myself, only when one person ONLY like popular bands or R&B stuff though)

It's not hard to pick out popular music and say it sucks. I do sometimes have trouble listening to Nickleback and Linkin Park, but they do make for a rocking good time when you don't wanna think to much. The biggest problem is they are over played. No they aren't the most complex musicialns in the world (and I do get angry at formulalic radio music for the most part) but they do have some redeeming qualities and are good in small doses.

I think he's out to lunch on the Evanescense bit though. They are an amazingly talented group that could do so much more if they got out of their producres grasp. Some of their old stuff is amazing. (Stuff never released in their studio album) But often bands have to do some formulaic stuff to get noticed.

My fav band is Tool myself and I love A Perfect Circle too. Most people will agree that Tool is a bit of an anomoly as it gets a little bit of play but is completely non radio (and they are uber talented in every bit, the drummer, the compostition, the poetry). I like Radiohead too, but am not a snob on them by any means. Even with them I have to be in the mood.

[troutman]

"rap isn't music!".

From an older thread, Jack White on rap music:

Rolling Stone: You're not a hip-hop fan.

JW: Not particularly. I find OutKast and Wu-Tang Clan interesting. But I consider music to be storytelling, melody and rhythm. A lot of hip-hop has broken music down. There are no instruments and no songwriting. So you're left with just storytelling and rhythm. And the storytelling can be so braggadocious, you're just left with rhythm. I don't find much emotion in that.

Is Jack right? I think rap is not "musical" in the traditional sense, but it still is an interesting art-form, and like any other genre, there is lots of pop crap, but some great masterpieces too.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Sep 19 2004, 09:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Sep 19 2004, 09:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RougeUnderoos@Sep 19 2004, 03:54 PM
Nickelback isn't famous because Chad Kroeger is some Adonis. He looks like a horse for crying out loud.

Ya but that bassist... alright, no one knows what the bassist looks like. No one ever knows what a bassit looks like, that is why they play bass, they suck. [/b][/quote]
I'm pretty sure Geddy Lee doesn't suck.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank@Sep 20 2004, 11:24 AM
I'm pretty sure Geddy Lee doesn't suck.

Agree to disagree? :P

[RedHot25]

Originally posted by Deelow@Sep 19 2004, 07:36 PM
My favorite snobs are radiohead fans. They sh*t on everyone and everything else..but then when they find someone that also like radiohead they get all offended because it's their band and no one else is permitted to like them.

Eek...!

I'll let you into the club, Deelow

[Five-hole]

Originally posted by JiriHrdina@Sep 19 2004, 11:18 AM
Bah. Music snobbery really bugs me. A guy like this equates all mainstream music = bad music. Hey - in a lot of cases he's right. But if people enjoy this music than what's the harm?

In my opinion there's lots of harm. Soulless, meaningless, corporate "art" is shoved down impressionable kids' throats, and the lap it up like thirsty dogs. They never bother to learn about artistic impression, and actually scorn it as some kind of effeminate, limp-wristed airy-fairy bullsh*t. Consequently, look at our society. What's artistic in our society anymore? Nothing. The fringe. It's bad.

[Deelow]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Sep 20 2004, 05:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Sep 20 2004, 05:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Frank the Tank@Sep 20 2004, 11:24 AM
I'm pretty sure Geddy Lee doesn't suck.

Agree to disagree? :P [/b][/quote]
I"m with you.

McCartney though is another story. A singing left handed Bassist. Rare.

[Igottago]

Originally posted by Five-hole+Sep 21 2004, 06:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Five-hole @ Sep 21 2004, 06:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JiriHrdina@Sep 19 2004, 11:18 AM
Bah. Music snobbery really bugs me. A guy like this equates all mainstream music = bad music. Hey - in a lot of cases he's right. But if people enjoy this music than what's the harm?

In my opinion there's lots of harm. Soulless, meaningless, corporate "art" is shoved down impressionable kids' throats, and the lap it up like thirsty dogs. They never bother to learn about artistic impression, and actually scorn it as some kind of effeminate, limp-wristed airy-fairy bullsh*t. Consequently, look at our society. What's artistic in our society anymore? Nothing. The fringe. It's bad. [/b][/quote]
You're so right...its not harmless if actual art is also distributed through media outlets, but all we get is formulaic rubbish...it all ties in with corporate control, and the constant reshaping of our society as consumers instead of free thinkers. Record companies want to sell as much as they can, so they market and oversaturate trends...its all marketing, and has very little to do with artistic merit anymore....and this all leads to a public that is told what is good, and will follow it like sheep...which is extremely dangerous. I don't know if the guy on the website was really funny, but the scary thing is he made some very true points in regards to clearchannel, and the impact of radio and television on consumer behaviour.