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Old 03-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #21
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I've heard from many to think Gardiner but better. He will be a good addition to any team.
By many, do you mean Mackenzie?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:13 PM   #22
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By many, do you mean Mackenzie?
Nope.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:06 PM   #23
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I've heard from many to think Gardiner but better. He will be a good addition to any team.
Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I read nik's post to say he could sign in Toronto because he and Gardiner are close friends.
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Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I read nik's post to say he could sign in Toronto because he and Gardiner are close friends.
I was thinking close as in skill.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:58 PM   #25
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By many, do you mean Mackenzie?
Murray did choose Schultz over Gardiner in the Lupul-Beacuhemin deal, Burke originally wanted Schultz.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:02 PM   #26
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while looking for info on Schultz, came across this
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Justin Schultz and John Ramage are the most likely flight risks to the NHL.
if Ramage leaves college, the Flames have until Aug 15th to sign him
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:08 PM   #27
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Why do the Flames have until Aug 15 with Ramage, but Schultz is a UFA is left unsigned? Is it age? Year they were drafted? Where they were drafted?
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:15 PM   #28
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if I understand correctly, Schultz played a year of junior, plus three years of college after getting drafted. This allows him to opt for UFA status July 1st. Same situation as Blake Wheeler - went to free agency and signed with the Bruins after his junior year of college. Flames prospect, Nick Larson, could go this route if he choose to leave college now - doubt he'd get much fanfare

Ramage has played three years of college. College players have to be signed by Aug 15th the summer after they leave school. He could also choose not sign and become a UFA as well.

Two different situations

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Old 03-14-2012, 05:19 PM   #29
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I don't like the college rules for signing a player. It's too easy for the player to go UFA and the drafting team ends up with nothing. It's become a problem with European players as well as there is little time to negotiate after their international play is over. With juniors you have two years to negotiate but with the others it's down to a couple of months or even weeks.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:11 PM   #30
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Who knows. I hope he does the right thing and signs in Anaheim.
I hope he does the right thing and signs here.
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:10 PM   #31
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"Well (Ryan) Suter and (Zach) Parise are unquestionably the top two unrestricted free agents. I'm going out and suggesting very strongly that the third biggest name in free agency this year will be Anaheim second round pick Justin Schultz."

"(Schultz) recently concluded his season with the University of Wisconsin. (Schultz) has the option to sign with the Ducks right now if he so chooses, or go to unrestricted free agency on July 1st. And I'm saying that because he has not signed with the Ducks at this point in time, there is every indication that Schultz is going to go to unrestricted free agency. We talked about it last week, this is a big blow to Anaheim, but he is headed to the free agent market."
this was from yesterdays Insider Trading segment on TSN
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:16 PM   #32
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I thought college players had to wait until August 15 to become UFAs. Still not fair to the drafting team in my opinion.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:17 PM   #33
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"... he can become a free agent on July 1, which is tied to the fact Schultz spent a year in juniors after he was drafted by Anaheim. While he wouldn’t be as sought-after as, say, Madisonian and Nashville defenseman Ryan Suter or New Jersey center Zach Parise in the NHL marketplace, Schultz would likely draw a lot of interest.

However, there may not be a marketplace. The seven-year collective bargaining agreement between the NHL and its players’ union expires Sept. 15 and some agents are telling their clients to prepare for the worst: A repeat of 2004-05 when the players were locked out by the 30 club owners.

“They really don’t know what’s going on yet,” Schultz said. “That’s kind of why I’m waiting. Finish school and let things settle down a bit and let me step back from everything and just relax and figure things out with my family.”

UW coach Mike Eaves is preparing for Schultz to leave early, but is waiting on another junior defenseman, captain and 2010 Calgary draftee John Ramage, before deciding if he should bring in another recruit to join Kevin Schulze and Eddie Wittchow for 2012-13."
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:13 AM   #34
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Any chance he wants to play with Ramage in cow-town? Would allow us to really gut our defense and rebuild in a major way.
Giordano-Schultz
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i don't know about making the playoffs next year with that lack of experience on the back end, but i like the idea of a really really young team for the flames over the next few years.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:35 PM   #35
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it's looking more and more like Schultz and Ramage will be returning to college

Ramage has pretty much stated that he will return to Wisconsin, and Schultz sounds like he's leaning that way due to CBA uncertainties
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:16 PM   #36
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It wold be unreal if we could sign him. He is the top flight offensive young D we have been looking for....since the time we had high hopes for Derek Morris....
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:40 AM   #37
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Wisconsin is planning for next year as if Schultz is not returning while Ramage has told them he will definitely be back:

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Meanwhile, highly regarded recruit Nic Kerdiles reaffirmed his intent to play for the Badgers this season, and captain John Ramage assured Eaves he will return for his senior season instead of turning pro.
In addition, junior-to-be Gavin Hartzog will move full-time from wing to defense, balancing the current roster at 15 forward, eight defensemen and two goaltenders. That breakdown doesn't include two-time All-America defenseman Justin Schultz, who's expected to forgo his senior season and turn pro.
Sounds like he hasn't made a firm decision about returning like Ramage has.

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Word out of Wisconsin is ANA draft Justin Schultz filed paperwork to quit school,” McKenzie tweeted. “Neither Ducks nor Schultz’s reps responding for comment .If Schultz has indeed de-registered from school, ANA has exclusive 30-day window to sign him. “If unsigned after 30 days, he’s UFA. If UFA, Schultz cannot sign until July 1, but is free to talk to any teams immediately upon expiry of ANA’s 30-day exclusivity window.”
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...y-quit-school/

worth a gamble to trade for those 30 day negotiating rights?

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Old 05-25-2012, 01:59 PM   #39
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Not worth the risk. If he doesn’t sign with the Ducks I assume it is because he wants to leverage his status as a free agent, and as such I would doubt any other team could be successful signing him.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:25 PM   #40
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What a kick in the pants it would be for Anaheim to lose this guy.

Really hope they fix things like this in the next CBA somehow. There is no way a team should expend a draft pick on a player, have him develop really well, and then lose him for sweet F all.

Imagine how we'd all feel if Gaudreau keeps developing exponentially over the next couple years, and then finds a loop hole and walks in free agency at the age of 21.

Anyways, having said all that, if Schultz is going to test the FA market, hopefully the Flames can grab him up. It would be a massive boost to snag up the highest scoring d-man in all of the NCAA.
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