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Titan · 03-03-2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I don't see cheating as a mistake. Both parties knew exactly what they were doing and have no respect for the marriage vows they made or the person they married. I don't know how anyone can support that.

Well obviously I don't support the action. But can I still support the person?

What if he was an alcoholic or made a bad business investment. Kick him to the curb?

Titan · 03-03-2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

That's a "them" problem. #### it. People are gonna have sex, don't worry about it. Let the good times roll imo. Never understand why sex is such a big deal. Open relationships agogo baby.

Meet you at Hedonism?

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan

Well obviously I don't support the action. But can I still support the person?

That's a ######ed question, and if you have to ask that, he shouldn't want you as a friend anymore. God. It was sex, he didn't kill someone.

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Originally Posted by Titan

Meet you at Hedonism?

BRT

puckluck · 03-03-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I don't see cheating as a mistake. Both parties knew exactly what they were doing and have no respect for the marriage vows they made or the person they married. I don't know how anyone can support that.

Nobody is supporting what they did. They are supporting their friends, if they choose.

It's still his call, but if I was in his position I'd support my friends 100% even though what they did was wrong.

I'd call him a scumbag, and we'd then go shoot some pool. That's what a friend should be imo.

Dion · 03-03-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

That's a "them" problem. #### it. People are gonna have sex, don't worry about it. Let the good times roll imo.

It's a "morality" problem/issue that effects the friends of those 2 cheaters. I guess if one doesn't have a problem with cheating it might then be a "them" problem.

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

It's a "morality" problem/issue that effects the friends of those 2 cheaters. I guess if one doesn't have a problem with cheating it might then be a "them" problem.

Morality and sex are ridiculous. No harm no foul. No one gets hurt, and if there is emotional hurt, again, that is a "them" problem. Let them handle their own problems, remain friends with both.

Edit - Puckluck has it ri Puckluck has it rig Puckluck has it cor. Nope, can't type it

Titan · 03-03-2012, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

That's a ######ed question, and if you have to ask that, he shouldn't want you as a friend anymore. God. It was sex, he didn't kill someone.

BRT

A ######ed question? What? Not really following you here.

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan

A ######ed question? What? Not really following you here.

I am drunk, but I was reading it as you asking "Can I still support this person." Which is a dumb question.

Titan · 03-03-2012, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

I am drunk, but I was reading it as you asking "Can I still support this person." Which is a dumb question.

So you are saying that you can still support the person if they made this mistake?

I agree.

And am a little drunk myself. Its been a rough week.

Dion · 03-03-2012, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

Morality and sex are ridiculous. No harm no foul. No one gets hurt, and if there is emotional hurt, again, that is a "them" problem. Let them handle their own problems, remain friends with both.

You're asking people to ignore what has happened. Should I have remained friends with my sisters ex who cheated on her? No way in hell.

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He doesn't have it right but i'll agree to disagree with both of you.

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan

So you are saying that you can still support the person if they made this mistake?

It's not even a mistake. It is a common biological process found to cross amongst all animals. Embrace it, don't demonize it. It happens, people do it. It happens more than we want to admit and it will continue to do so. Accept it, get over it, move on. It shouldn't change anything EVEN IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

You're asking people to ignore what has happened. Should I have remained friends with my sisters ex who cheated on her? No way in hell.

DOESN'T COUNT. Emotional attachment to the person who felt wounded makes it a totally unique situation to what Titan has experienced.

But if you were friends prior to this marriage and relationship, then yes you should have. If you still hate on him, then you're a terrible friend and I hope none of your other friends do something that is biologically acceptable but has been deemed wrong by society because <instert your reason of choice here> says so such as passing wind in public and not saying excuse me.

(That's right, I just compared extra-marital affairs with farting with no apology cause it is the same ####ing thing, biological function with needless sociological norm tacked on.... that said I still apologize for farting, that's just wrong!)

Cheerio · 03-03-2012, 02:03 AM

I would stay out of it completely if they are good friends. It doesn't involve you so why should you feel the need to involve yourself?

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 02:05 AM

New plan, sleep with both of them!

Dion · 03-03-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

It's not even a mistake. It is a common biological process found to cross amongst all animals. Embrace it, don't demonize it. It happens, people do it. It happens more than we want to admit and it will continue to do so. Accept it, get over it, move on. It shouldn't change anything EVEN IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

People have the choice to walk away from situations like that. I've been hit on by 3 married women in the workplace and on all 3 occassions whatever friendship we had was gone. It happens because some choose to go that direction with no regard to the person they married and the people they hurt. A sad refection of morality in todays society if you think we should embrace it.

Blaster86 · 03-03-2012, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

A sad refection of morality in todays society if you think we should embrace it.

A sad reflection of the oppressive and draconian way people choose to live if you think we should ignore BASIC HUMAN NATURE.

You don't wanna do it, sweet. No loss on your part, you're happy. I am happy for you. Some people need more than one person, that's just how it is. Why hate?

soulchoice · 03-03-2012, 02:10 AM

Ive been in this situation before. Personally, I didnt care what they do or dont do. They both were good friends to me, so thats all that counts. It wasnt his nor her fault, they are adults, do what you want. I stayed out of it.

To this day, I am still friends with both. Things always work themselves out.

Titan · 03-03-2012, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio

I would stay out of it completely if they are good friends. It doesn't involve you so why should you feel the need to involve yourself?

Good question. It was a very close group of friends (Ba dum) but since we don't all live in Blaster's world I think choices will need to be made.

They were all friends before. Whether Blaster agrees or not we live in a society where norms are honoured and people get upset when they are not. I would suggest reasonably so.

Do their lives and interests and hobbies and activities not involve me? In fact they do. This bad choice by two of them arguably involves everyone in the group. It has rent the group asunder. That involves me. Good wife and bad wife never want to see one another again. That affects my plans and gatherings and socializing. I am involved already.

Dion · 03-03-2012, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

DOESN'T COUNT. Emotional attachment to the person who felt wounded makes it a totally unique situation to what Titan has experienced.

But if you were friends prior to this marriage and relationship, then yes you should have. If you still hate on him, then you're a terrible friend and I hope none of your other friends do something that is biologically acceptable but has been deemed wrong by society because <instert your reason of choice here> says so such as passing wind in public and not saying excuse me.

(That's right, I just compared extra-marital affairs with farting with no apology cause it is the same ####ing thing, biological function with needless sociological norm tacked on.... that said I still apologize for farting, that's just wrong!)

None of my friends have done such a thing and I highly doubt they will. People who do extra marital affairs are self centered a holes.

Titan · 03-03-2012, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

A sad reflection of the oppressive and draconian way people choose to live if you think we should ignore BASIC HUMAN NATURE.

You don't wanna do it, sweet. No loss on your part, you're happy. I am happy for you. Some people need more than one person, that's just how it is. Why hate?

Is our entire society not based on ignoring this basic human nature? Is your vision of society sustainable? I would suggest not because raising other humans involves more than simply rutting when the urge strikes. Without a cohesive social unit the next generation will not survive to procreate on their own and then where will we be? As fun as it may be.