Campaign starts to adopt dog that killed Alberta baby

[Rerun]

Animal lovers from across the country are volunteering to adopt a pet husky that killed a newborn baby in southern Alberta.
At least a dozen people have made requests through the city of Airdrie and many more have sent messages to the baby's parents.
"Euthanizing this dog will not bring that little baby back," said Ron Pawlowski of Bradford, Ont., a business professor who wants to have the dog moved to his farm.
"I know that the whole country shares in this poor family's grief. If this dog proves to be no further a threat, I hope that the dog can be given a new home."

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[Rerun]

I would adopt this dog if he proves to be no further threat. I feel for the family and the baby of course... but I feel for the dog too. He knows he's being punished and he doesn't understand why.
I doubt the dog meant to do harm to the child...

[RougeUnderoos]

Aren't there lots of other dogs that need to be adopted?

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Rerun

He knows he's being punished and he doesn't understand why.

No, the dog does NOT know it's being punished. It knows it's being separated and isolated from it's pack (or any pack for that matter), and doesn't know why. Huge mistake to think the dog can determine any linkage between it's current situation and what happened weeks ago now.

The semantics of these kinds of statements really matter - you can't anthropomorphize animals in situations like this where life and death has literally been involved. They aren't that sophisticated.

[ResAlien]

Animal kills human = ok!
Human kills animal =VICK SHOULD DIE FOREVER!!!!

Put this damn mutt down already.

[Two Fivenagame]

So i guess we have our answer to the abortion questi....


/96% insensitive post

[ResAlien]

The dog should be given a new home on the grave of the human being it killed. That will totally bring the real life it extinguished back.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Animal kills human = ok!
Human kills animal =VICK SHOULD DIE FOREVER!!!!

Put this damn mutt down already.

That's a bit harsh.

If this was an act of aggression towards the child; the dog could still be re-homed to setting with no children and an owner willing to put in the needed time for some additional training.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Animal kills human = ok!
Human kills animal =VICK SHOULD DIE FOREVER!!!!

Put this damn mutt down already.

You have got to be kidding.


It's perfectly rational to prohibit humans from causing harm to life forms that we know have the capacity to experience suffering. But there are several reasons we don't judge animals by the same standards as humans, chief amongst them being that we don't attribute them with having the capacity to grasp reasons for not doing things.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The dog should be given a new home on the grave of the human being it killed. That will totally bring the real life it extinguished back.

The dog is an animal that shouldn't be around children, no one will deny that, which is why having the dog on a farm or something along those lines is a good idea. If the dog isn't a risk why kill it... to get some vengeance against an animal?

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by First Lady

That's a bit harsh.

If this was an act of aggression towards the child; the dog could still be re-homed to setting with no children and an owner willing to put in the needed time for some additional training.

what's the point? put down this dog already and go to the local pound and adopt a loving animal before they're put down for no reason. the whole sympathy towards animals angle really goes too far sometimes, if a dog ever attacked a member of my family i would shoot it myself

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

what's the point? put down this dog already and go to the local pound and adopt a loving animal before they're put down for no reason. the whole sympathy towards animals angle really goes too far sometimes, if a dog ever attacked a member of my family i would shoot it myself

And you'd be justified to if there was present danger to your family.

To go shoot it weeks or months later, however, would be senseless.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

And you'd be justified to if there was present danger to your family.

To go shoot it weeks or months later, however, would be senseless.

do bears that attack humans in national parks get a second chance? i don't get why dogs are different, it's already killed a human so i don't see why you risk it ever attacking again

[hkstylez]

Feel pretty bad for the dog not knowing that the baby was a part of the family now instead of a threat. Guess the owners should have raised the dog around more infants in the first place. Wish I could adopt him but my current puppy is already a bit of a handful.. haha.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

what's the point? put down this dog already and go to the local pound and adopt a loving animal before they're put down for no reason. the whole sympathy towards animals angle really goes too far sometimes, if a dog ever attacked a member of my family i would shoot it myself

For all we know this is still a loving animal. 100's of dogs end up needing to be adopted because they nipped or bit someone. This dog happened to bite a 2 day old, the result is very, terribly unfortunate.

Had the child been older the result likely wouldn't have been the same. You probably wouldn't have heard about it and people certainly wouldn't be calling for it to be killed.

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

what's the point? put down this dog already and go to the local pound and adopt a loving animal before they're put down for no reason. the whole sympathy towards animals angle really goes too far sometimes, if a dog ever attacked a member of my family i would shoot it myself

If you were dumb enough to let a dog like this around your new born baby you might have a little trouble figuring out how to shoot a gun. The kid already died because of the parents stupidity.. why should the dog die too? It's more a matter of what's right and wrong than sympathy.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

do bears that attack humans in national parks get a second chance? i don't get why dogs are different, it's already killed a human so i don't see why you risk it ever attacking again

Once again, if there is present danger, then killing the animal before it causes further harm is justified. In the case of bear attacks on humans, the animal is generally killed during or very soon after the attack.

If a bear attacked a human and was found (and somehow identified) months later, what reason is there for killing it? Is putting down the animal going to dissuade other animals from harming humans? You know they don't have that cognitive capacity, right?

I am shocked I even have to explain this.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

do bears that attack humans in national parks get a second chance? i don't get why dogs are different, it's already killed a human so i don't see why you risk it ever attacking again

Yes actually there are very vocal groups out there and whenever possible relocation is the first option before killing.

Originally Posted by hkstylez

Feel pretty bad for the dog not knowing that the baby was a part of the family now instead of a threat. Guess the owners should have raised the dog around more infants in the first place. Wish I could adopt him but my current puppy is already a bit of a handful.. haha.

They have an older child and they did go to classes with the dog on introducing new family members.

From everything I've read on this the dog was reacting to a crying baby; possibly trying to "mother it" by picking it up. The baby only had one bite, it was not mauled.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

do bears that attack humans in national parks get a second chance? i don't get why dogs are different, it's already killed a human so i don't see why you risk it ever attacking again

I don't know the details of the case but I heard on the radio that the dog had grabbed the baby by the back of the neck in the same way that mothers would carry young pups. They said that an older child would have had minor injury but the infant was too fragile for this. If anything you would wonder why an infant was left alone with the dog but it sounds like the whole thing was an unfortunate accident. If that is true you can't really call it an attack. My first reaction to the story was that the dog should be put down but now I just don't know if that is justified.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I don't know the details of the case but I heard on the radio that the dog had grabbed the baby by the back of the neck in the same way that mothers would carry young pups. They said that an older child would have had minor injury but the infant was too fragile for this. If anything you would wonder why an infant was left alone with the dog but it sounds like the whole thing was an unfortunate accident. If that is true you can't really call it an attack. My first reaction to the story was that the dog should be put down but now I just don't know if that is justified.

Hemi-Cuda says: OMG put the parents down.