02-24-2012, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
No one said the war on obesity would be bloodless.
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Exactly! Everyone has fun talking about the "Fat Americans" until someone has a novel idea about how to keep their child from perpetuating the stereotype, then everyone is up in arms.
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02-24-2012, 06:50 AM
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I could see making a kid run for a few minutes or do some exercises as a punishment, but 3 hours crazy.
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02-24-2012, 07:54 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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The death penalty... Really?
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02-24-2012, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GGG
I think this really depends on the intensity the parents made her exercise.
Also brings up an interesting comparison to football players who die when there coaches overwork them.
I dont think punishment is deserved if there is no other history of abuse. Usually when people die of exercertion there is some underlying condition that hasnt been diagnosed.
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I can't figure out if this is serious or not. It's tantamount to saying "I don't think punishment is deserved if there is no other history of murder."
The child was forced to run until she died for christ sake
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02-24-2012, 08:35 AM
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Kind of interesting case.
1. The punishment is way over the top for the crime. If it was punishment for something that was actually bad, like knocking over a convenience store, would it make it more ok?
2. I don't think it was the excercise that killed her. My kids have basically run for hours on end for fun with no issues. I guess they probably took a few little breaks here and there. It was the not giving her water that did her in. If the parents were just too stupid to realize she needed fluid, then they should be probably charged with whatever neglect charge some other parent who didn't properly hydrate their kid while they excercised. If the kid was begging for water, and they didn't give her any as part of the punishment, then definitely is murder, I'd say.
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02-24-2012, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
2. I don't think it was the excercise that killed her. My kids have basically run for hours on end for fun with no issues. I guess they probably took a few little breaks here and there. It was the not giving her water that did her in. If the parents were just too stupid to realize she needed fluid, then they should be probably charged with whatever neglect charge some other parent who didn't properly hydrate their kid while they excercised. If the kid was begging for water, and they didn't give her any as part of the punishment, then definitely is murder, I'd say.
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Depends...Involuntary Manslaughter (that and Voluntary Manslaughter are often called 3rd degree murder) was the charge you were thinking of, right?
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02-24-2012, 08:45 AM
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"Dont make me run, I am full of chocolate!"
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02-24-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
No one said the war on obesity would be bloodless.
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Come on people! Did you really go there? A girl is dead, and the majority of the posts so far are jokes.
Uncalled for IMO.
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02-24-2012, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Chingas
Come on people! Did you really go there? A girl is dead, and the majority of the posts so far are jokes.
Uncalled for IMO.
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02-24-2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chingas
Come on people! Did you really go there? A girl is dead, and the majority of the posts so far are jokes.
Uncalled for IMO.
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Hey, my joke is even topical and relevant.
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02-24-2012, 09:50 AM
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If this story was about a dog, who's owner ran it till it died....there would be 10+ pages and calls for public stoning
Girl dies tragically and too soon, comedic fodder
Such is life
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02-24-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chingas
Come on people! Did you really go there? A girl is dead, and the majority of the posts so far are jokes.
Uncalled for IMO.
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I know, right? There are only two acceptable responses to this thread:
1) "Thoughts and prayers."
2) "If it was up to me, the parent would suffer by *insert over-the-top barbaric punishment here*."
How dare anyone engage in black comedy at a time like this!
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02-24-2012, 09:54 AM
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The stepmother and grandmother clearly don't have PhDs.
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02-24-2012, 10:01 AM
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Blame the chocolate bar, it must've been laced with something dangerous. Kill all of the people involved in the production of the chocolate and the vendor that sold it...
Thoughts and prayers.
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02-24-2012, 10:05 AM
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That line about the prosecutors seeking the death penalty is priceless. Good luck with that.
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02-24-2012, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Keselke
If this story was about a dog, who's owner ran it till it died....there would be 10+ pages and calls for public stoning
Girl dies tragically and too soon, comedic fodder
Such is life
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challenge accepted!
bring on the next tragic dog death thread!
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02-24-2012, 10:08 AM
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Look I'm all for a lot of bad jokes in many instances, but Nine year old girl is dead doesn't rise my funny bone.
I'll leave it at that.
As you were.
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02-24-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chingas
Look I'm all for a lot of bad jokes in many instances, but Nine year old girl is dead doesn't rise my funny bone.
I'll leave it at that.
As you were.
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Clearly this girl's mom and grandmother couldnt care less about her, to the point where they tortured her to death over something completely menial.
But we, complete strangers, are supposed to care and be sad?
This is all kinds of Hillbilly Hilarious, the only correct course of action is to point and laugh. They killed their own kid because they're idiots, and their idiocy should be ridiculed.
But by all means, you can take the lead and begin the wake.
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02-24-2012, 10:29 AM
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bring on the next tragic dog death thread!
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I like dogs though, I don't like Hillbillies
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02-24-2012, 10:32 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Locke
Clearly this girl's mom and grandmother couldnt care less about her, to the point where they tortured her to death over something completely menial.
But we, complete strangers, are supposed to care and be sad?
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The girl's mom and grandmother you shouldn't give two poops about, the girl however I feel sad about, yes for sure.
I am not about to get on my high horse about this, and I've never been above bad poorly timed jokes in the past... but just because the girls caretakers were horrible people, doesn't mean the 9 year old girl was.
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