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Old 03-10-2011, 01:42 PM   #21
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Have you been able to maintain your weight loss since you quit smoking?
So far so good. I put on about 4 pounds the first week, but it has leveled off. I just added an extra km to my run to compensate lol.

Also to add, I think smoking may have been part of the issue. As I was cutting back, I was snoring less. So I think in my case just getting generally healthier was a big part of it.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:19 PM   #22
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I use this with moderate success...

http://puresleep.com/
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:07 PM   #23
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Oh my god do not look at taking out part of your face and throat just to stop snoring.

I have known a couple of people who have done this who also say it was the worst experience of their life and had little to no effect on their snoring.
I had it done at the same time I had my tonsils out. Short term- it worked. However my snoring has now returned; partly due to my body making up for it being gone with building up phlegm in the back of my throat as I sleep.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:50 AM   #24
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I'm giving this thread a bump because I have been referred for a sleep apnea test. I don't snore often or loudly, nor do I awaken gasping for air. I do however find that I am fairly fatigued even after a good night of sleep (and this has been the case for years - not just since having a baby 5 months ago), and my wife often notices that I "forget to breathe" if we are watching a movie, or if I am just sitting around. I eventually start up again, usually without noticing unless she brings it to my attention. I don't even notice that I am stopping my breathing, and I don't notice that I am starting it up again. But apparently I stop for 10 seconds or so.

This was enough for the doctor to write me up a referral. But after reading a little bit about the typical heavy snoring, waking gasping for air, etc. (things that I don't exhibit) I am starting to doubt that there is anything unusual going on.

Obviously, it is better to be safe than sorry, and the doctor obviously felt it was important enough to get checked (he tends to be quick to refer, which might not be such a bad thing). I'm more or less just seeing if anyone here has experience/knowledge with apnea that doesn't involve heavy snoring, gasping, choking, etc.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:54 AM   #25
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^ And because someone is bound to ask, I am about the size of the "old Pylon". 235 and 6'1, and I am trying to bring that down a bit obviously. I still play sports and work out (but not enough, obviously, but I'm not a couch potato), and I'm 32. But the forgetting to breathe thing has been going on for years, even while younger and leaner.
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I'm giving this thread a bump because I have been referred for a sleep apnea test. I don't snore often or loudly, nor do I awaken gasping for air. I do however find that I am fairly fatigued even after a good night of sleep (and this has been the case for years - not just since having a baby 5 months ago), and my wife often notices that I "forget to breathe" if we are watching a movie, or if I am just sitting around. I eventually start up again, usually without noticing unless she brings it to my attention. I don't even notice that I am stopping my breathing, and I don't notice that I am starting it up again. But apparently I stop for 10 seconds or so.

This was enough for the doctor to write me up a referral. But after reading a little bit about the typical heavy snoring, waking gasping for air, etc. (things that I don't exhibit) I am starting to doubt that there is anything unusual going on.

Obviously, it is better to be safe than sorry, and the doctor obviously felt it was important enough to get checked (he tends to be quick to refer, which might not be such a bad thing). I'm more or less just seeing if anyone here has experience/knowledge with apnea that doesn't involve heavy snoring, gasping, choking, etc.
I had a sleep test done at Centre For Sleep in the summer of last year.

I did not exhibit any of the typical signs of sleep apnea like waking up fatigued, or in the middle of the night short of breath, or snore really loudly. I woke up refreshed every morning and didn't need to take naps to get through the day. I'm also not over weight by any means.

In fact, if it wasn't for people telling me that I held my breath and made crazy/weird/funny sounds when I slept, I probably wouldn't even know I had a problem.

You can rent this head-band type machine there for $200. You wear it over night and it measures your O2 intake level, heart rate and a bunch of other things like sleep position, etc. You bring it back to the Centre where they download the data for review at a follow-up appointment.

There is also a $800 "in-person sleepover" test which is more comprehensive and takes a variety of additional measurements like blood pressure, limb movement, etc but I didn't get that done.

None of the tests are covered so you have to pay out of pocket... part of the reason I didn't do the sleepover.

Might be a good thing for you to check out!
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They make the mouth pieces here http://www.merrellclinic.com/

They give you a sleep test before and after to make sure it is doing the job. No guarantee that it will work for you and the whole process is pretty expensive, I think around $3000.
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They make the mouth pieces here http://www.merrellclinic.com/

They give you a sleep test before and after to make sure it is doing the job. No guarantee that it will work for you and the whole process is pretty expensive, I think around $3000.
If I'm paying $3,000 for someone to sleep over, I better not be getting a lot of sleep.
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I use this with moderate success...

http://puresleep.com/
Seriously.

These are, like, $50, and works well for many I know.

Give this a try before you try anything more expensive...
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:19 PM   #30
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No mention of breath right nasal strips?

I snore every once in a while (usually after a few beers) so before I go to bed I put one of those on, and it takes care of it.

I have a badly deviated septum (can't breathe out of one side of my nose) so those things are a godsend for people around me if I'm slightly congested, or have had a bunch of beers at a game.
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:52 PM   #31
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If I'm paying $3,000 for someone to sleep over, I better not be getting a lot of sleep.
Keep in mind this is $3000 for the cure .... not a disease
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I have heard of a few people undergoing a uvuloplasty to correct problematic snoring concerns. I would think that a visit to the GP and a referral to an otolaryngologist is the beginning of the process. Apparently the procedure is somewhat uncomfortable.
My Dad had this done. He had to learn how to eat again, without choking. Even now, years afterwards, he occasionally chokes on food "going down the wrong way".

But he also says he'd go through the procedure again. It didn't do much for his snoring, but his apnea has gone away.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:37 PM   #33
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I tried nasal strips, inhaling Marjoram, and I sleep and work out regularly and none of these worked.

I assume that my jaw overbite has something to do with my snoring, which I do not think can be corrected.
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Jimmy Stang, You would not necessarily wake up gasping nor would you even realize you were waking. I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea. While I wasn't waking up gasping, I was experiencing about 32+ 'apneas' per hour in which my brain wouldn't be getting sufficient oxygen and I would 'wake' without even realizing it. The next morning I would think I slept right through the night, so I couldn't understand my fatigue. I use CPAP therapy now and it has improved my quality of life significantly as I now wake up in the morning feeling well rested and fully restored. I'd suggest doing the sleep study...it's a one-night inconvenience that's well worth enduring if you do have sleep apnea.
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I'd suggest doing the sleep study...it's a one-night inconvenience that's well worth enduring if you do have sleep apnea.
Got to agree here, you may stop the snoring but still have a serious problem. The oral appliance works for some people, I wouldn't rely on one of the cheap ones for $50 to cure apnea though.
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I'm in Toronto and my family physician referred me to a sleep clinic. It was all covered by OHIP so I didn't have to pay anything out of pocket.
They found that I did have slight apnea, but my oxygen levels are normal so no need for CPAP
Still, they couldn't really recommend me to help with the snoring besides avoid alcohol and to try sleeping on my side.

I'm a skinny Asian guy, so it's not a diet issue

I'm a nose snorer, so anyone have any success with breath right strips?
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Just to be clear, you were told to avoid sleeping on your side? Do you know why?
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I'm in Toronto and my family physician referred me to a sleep clinic. It was all covered by OHIP so I didn't have to pay anything out of pocket.
They found that I did have slight apnea, but my oxygen levels are normal so no need for CPAP
Still, they couldn't really recommend me to help with the snoring besides avoid alcohol and sleeping on my side.

I'm a skinny Asian guy, so it's not a diet issue

I'm a nose snorer, so anyone have any success with breath right strips?
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:14 AM   #38
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Another thing I'd look into is swelling in the nasal passages. I began to, for whatever reason, suffer from Rhinitis. It persisted after antibiotics...the cure: a neti pot. Well not actually a neti pot, but NeilMed sinus rinse:

http://www.neilmed.com/can/sinusrinse.php

This not only got rid of the swelling, but made a huge impact on my seasonal allergies this season.
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Just to be clear, you were told to avoid sleeping on your side? Do you know why?
Sorry, bad grammar on my part. Was told to sleep on my side because it allows a wider passage when sleeping
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When my ex-wife snored I usually smothered her with a pillow for 2-3 minutes and that seemed to keep her quiet. Just a tip.
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I've recently started using a CPAP machine and it's helped. It does take getting used to.

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