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Old 02-04-2012, 11:42 PM   #621
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The only afterlife is in memorys so live this life the right way and be remembered as a good person..
Why? Why bother? If there is no greater power to judge why do I need to be remembered as a good person? I can be remembered as a sodomizing, baby killing, racist, midget murdering jerk. Eff the people who knew me. Does the memory of who I was resonate through history?

Who the hell are you to decide if I'm a good person or not? You're an atheist, where does your idea of if I'm a good person or not come into things?
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:35 AM   #623
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Why? Why bother? If there is no greater power to judge why do I need to be remembered as a good person? I can be remembered as a sodomizing, baby killing, racist, midget murdering jerk. Eff the people who knew me. Does the memory of who I was resonate through history?

Who the hell are you to decide if I'm a good person or not? You're an atheist, where does your idea of if I'm a good person or not come into things?
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Why? Why bother? If there is no greater power to judge why do I need to be remembered as a good person? I can be remembered as a sodomizing, baby killing, racist, midget murdering jerk. Eff the people who knew me. Does the memory of who I was resonate through history?

Who the hell are you to decide if I'm a good person or not? You're an atheist, where does your idea of if I'm a good person or not come into things?
I just look at it as doing good feels good. My being remembered in a certain way or any promises of an afterlife doesn't have much to do with how I act.
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:59 AM   #625
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Why? Why bother? If there is no greater power to judge why do I need to be remembered as a good person? I can be remembered as a sodomizing, baby killing, racist, midget murdering jerk. Eff the people who knew me. Does the memory of who I was resonate through history?

Who the hell are you to decide if I'm a good person or not? You're an atheist, where does your idea of if I'm a good person or not come into things?

right....anyways, lets go BBQ a few more baby kittens fellow atheists!
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right....anyways, lets go BBQ a few more baby kittens fellow atheists!
I'm as far from religious as one can get but I find it interesting and think that morality has to be subjective if there is no greater power dictating that it isn't.
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I have no problem with that.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #628
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Agreed that morality is not objective.

This guy does a much better job explaining morality without god concepts than I could ever bring myself to:

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This about sums up "GODS" morality

Morality is a choice, not a church...thank "GOD"

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This about sums up "GODS" morality
Theist sez: "lol no u r wrong, those stories r just symbolic"

Problem is that the stories make as much sense being symbolic as they do being intended literally.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:03 PM   #631
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Theist sez: "lol no u r wrong, those stories r just symbolic"

Problem is that the stories make as much sense being symbolic as they do being intended literally.
No the examples given are just effed up stories of a primitive society.

Not all theists believe in the Christian bible and not all Christians follow the Old Testament.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:37 PM   #632
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It makes me pretty skeptical about the foundation for most atheist's "reason" when all they seem to possess are links to a few snarky youtube videos, the latest Hitchens/Dawkins/Harris book, and an air of insufferable arrogance.

EDIT: I am an agnostic, and not a believer myself.
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It makes me pretty skeptical about the foundation for most atheist's "reason" when all they seem to possess are links to a few snarky youtube videos, the latest Hitchens/Dawkins/Harris book, and an air of insufferable arrogance.

EDIT: I am an agnostic, and not a believer myself.
Hardly - some of us simply don't feel like typing up what someone else has already said far more eloquently than we would.

By the way, if you're going to make ignorant comments directed at atheists, you should probably make sure you aren't one first. Being a 'non-believer' makes you an atheist by definition. Agnosticism refers to what is knowable, it isn't some middle-ground between belief and non-belief.
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You are both wrong in asserting that the opposite of "faith" is "doubt". In actual fact, the opposite of faith is certainty, and certainty is a very dangerous position to be in. A certain man is one who is not prone to think otherwise, even in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
It's quite simple actually. Prove your god or STFU.
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It makes me pretty skeptical about the foundation for most atheist's "reason" when all they seem to possess are links to a few snarky youtube videos, the latest Hitchens/Dawkins/Harris book, and an air of insufferable arrogance.

EDIT: I am an agnostic, and not a believer myself.
Insufferable arrogance certainly is annoying.
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Hardly - some of us simply don't feel like typing up what someone else has already said far more eloquently than we would.

By the way, if you're going to make ignorant comments directed at atheists, you should probably make sure you aren't one first. Being a 'non-believer' makes you an atheist by definition. Agnosticism refers to what is knowable, it isn't some middle-ground between belief and non-belief.
There are different sub-sets of agnosticism, just as there is with theism, and atheism.

If, as Bertrand Russell stated, I claimed to you a teapot too small for telescopes to spot was orbiting the sun, and it was thus impossible to disprove its existence, you could still dismiss it as nonsense, and not believe it.

This is agnostic atheism.
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There are different sub-sets of agnosticism, just as there is with theism, and atheism.

If, as Bertrand Russell stated, I claimed to you a teapot too small for telescopes to spot was orbiting the sun, and it was thus impossible to disprove its existence, you could still dismiss it as nonsense, and not believe it.

This is agnostic atheism.
That was my point.
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That was my point.
He's not an atheist. He's an agnostic atheist.

That was your point?
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He's not an atheist. He's an agnostic atheist.

That was your point?
How is he not an atheist? Atheism and agnosticism address two very separate issues. Being an atheist means simply that you lack belief in a god or gods. Agnosticism is addressing the debate about what is knowable. Agnosticism is a position compatible with both belief and non-belief. You could be a Christian agnostic; believing in God but feeling that the answer to whether God exists is ultimately unknowable.

So an atheist and an agnostic atheist are still - by definition - atheists. The only difference is one takes the position that the answer is unknowable, while the other doesn't specify a position in the debate of what is knowable.
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