God dammit, why do you three always have to go super-nerd when discussing Star Trek and leave me in the dust incapable of joining in the conversation.
I'm sorry, my mom bought me The Nitpicker's Guide to Star Trek when I was in grade 5 and it was solid bathroom material for many years. I haven't actually watched any Star Trek for about 10 years now.
Keep trying though, I'm sure you'll fit in.
It's funny the things that Star Trek will bring out in people for that generation that grew up with it on TV. Today I had both a high powered corporate lawyer and a pot-head band leader both ask me if I was going because they wanted to see the cast of TNG. I probably won't go. I went to see Nimoy because TOS is the only series I can still enjoy. It also made my day when some guy made Nimoy recite his line from 1986's Transformers: The Movie.
That's the biggest problem with Berman style Star Trek. Too many of the plot solutions are ultimately solved through technobabble (deus ex machina) rather than good writing.
Everyone is also too smart on the show to be believable (unless they are Spock, Data, or genetically engineered Bashir).
It's so believable that goofy frat-boy ex-con Tom Paris also happens to be a genius warp engineer and becomes the first one to create working trans-warp instead of some nerd yellowshirt down in stellar cartography or something...
In Federation prisons of the future, part of your rehabilitation is that you have to take a docterate level course in advanced warp theory and design, as well as anger management.
Its not like you have to clean the showers or sweep the floors in the future.
I never once saw anyone clean the head in the Star Trek Universe. In fact, I never once saw a head. I remember seeing a episode with Troi where she went into her cabin washed her face and then took a bath, but there was nowhere to sit down. Did they engineer pooping out of the human species?
Here's another thing that burned me big time.
Everyone on the enterprise, or DS9, or Voyager was officer ranked. Usually on a USNS there is about 1 officer for every 20 men on average. In the United Federation of planets, I think there were 30 enlisted ranks in the whole Navy, and they were all Chiefs, no seamen, no leading seamen, all fricken chiefs.
So at the end of the day, you had one poor enlisted guy getting screamed at by 450 officers.
Oh
And the Captain and First officer going on away missions together. First of all, you'd never send the Captain on an away mission, and if you did you wouldn't put the rest of the command staff in jeopardy with him.
At least Enterprise put in the idea of MACO's. Where was the Marine detachment on the Enterprise, oh no they got some red shirt from Xenobiology to beam down, the poor ####### was probably so busy studying plants 24 hours a day that when he finally got a phaser he pointed the handle end at the enemy and the shooting end at his face. No wonder red shirts were killed in great numbers.
I know its a T.V. show, but the little details of the Star Trek Universe just bug the crap out of me.
Picard - "Yes men, we're beaming down to a planet occupied by a Klingon Attack Force, Riker, Data, Crusher and Laforge, your with me, lets also take Ensign Ricky from Xenobiology, Ensign Braccck from Engineering, and Ensign Bouvier from Kitchen Services"
Riker - "Shouldn't we take someone from security, and a couple of non-coms who are good with guns"
Picard - "Shaddup Riker, you've been my XO for 12 years, now when I put this dog treat on your nose, you can amuse me by flipping it into your mouth"
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It's funny the things that Star Trek will bring out in people for that generation that grew up with it on TV. Today I had both a high powered corporate lawyer and a pot-head band leader both ask me if I was going because they wanted to see the cast of TNG. I probably won't go. I went to see Nimoy because TOS is the only series I can still enjoy. It also made my day when some guy made Nimoy recite his line from 1986's Transformers: The Movie.
I doubt I would stand in line to see any of them, but the thought of seeing all the cast members together like that seems fun. I watched a couple clips on the youtube from various events when one or more cast member was together, and they seem to have a genuine affinity for each other. I think it will be worth some laughs.
I actually have thought about why Patick Stewart said the word "HERE!" with that affliction he added from First Contact.
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Picard - "Yes men, we're beaming down to a planet occupied by a Klingon Attack Force, Riker, Data, Crusher and Laforge, your with me, lets also take Ensign Ricky from Xenobiology, Ensign Braccck from Engineering, and Ensign Bouvier from Kitchen Services"
Riker - "Shouldn't we take someone from security, and a couple of non-coms who are good with guns"
Picard - "Shaddup Riker, you've been my XO for 12 years, now when I put this dog treat on your nose, you can amuse me by flipping it into your mouth"
I doubt I would stand in line to see any of them, but the thought of seeing all the cast members together like that seems fun. I watched a couple clips on the youtube from various events when one or more cast member was together, and they seem to have a genuine affinity for each other. I think it will be worth some laughs.
I actually have thought about why Patick Stewart said the word "HERE!" with that affliction he added from First Contact.
You...you really like making conversations.
Yup, maybe I'm a frustrated wannabe script writer with no good ideas.
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I'm sorry, my mom bought me The Nitpicker's Guide to Star Trek when I was in grade 5 and it was solid bathroom material for many years. I haven't actually watched any Star Trek for about 10 years now.
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lol oh the nitpickers guide, I was given that for xmas one year, classic book.
Wait, that's a real book, and Hack was being serious?
I doubt I would stand in line to see any of them, but the thought of seeing all the cast members together like that seems fun. I watched a couple clips on the youtube from various events when one or more cast member was together, and they seem to have a genuine affinity for each other. I think it will be worth some laughs.
That's true. I've seen some convention clips where Brent Spiner shows up in the audience for no reason at all and starts heckling other cast members for a laugh. I saw Stewart on a BBC talk show the other day and he said the best thing he got out of it was "family" meaning his group of friends and they also taught him how to have fun because apparently, he didn't know how to have fun as an actor prior to that. Maybe that's why all his hair fell out.
You guys are lucky. When I first read this, I didn't realize that this is exclusive to just Calgary. In Toronto, the only Star Trek actors that are going to be there are Scott Bakula and Jeri Ryan.
OT, but wasn't Calgary actually mentioned in one of the episodes too? I seem to recall in one of the stories that one of the crew went to Calgary for a shore leave or something.
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Yeah and it was pretty much honorary, the guy didn't attend the Police Academy.
and errr question, he was the security guy on Deep Space 9 during the Cardassian Occupation, why wasn't he tried for War Crimes?
Why would the Cardassians even let him be the Constable anyway? It'd be like the Nazi's occupying France, discovering that some French scientist had discovered a new species of intelligent frog, and then saying, "hey, instead of having a trustworthy and loyal Nazi to be our enforcement agent, we're going to appoint this frog the French guy found"
That's true. I've seen some convention clips where Brent Spiner shows up in the audience for no reason at all and starts heckling other cast members for a laugh. I saw Stewart on a BBC talk show the other day and he said the best thing he got out of it was "family" meaning his group of friends and they also taught him how to have fun because apparently, he didn't know how to have fun as an actor prior to that. Maybe that's why all his hair fell out.
What are the rules for these types of things?
I went to the Summer Glau and Shatner ones last year. Glau was boring, her answers so so prepped it was obvious. Shatner was the same, I left it was boring.
I really want to ask Brent Spiner what it was like to work with Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon in Out to Sea.
You guys are lucky. When I first read this, I didn't realize that this is exclusive to just Calgary. In Toronto, the only Star Trek actors that are going to be there are Scott Bakula and Jeri Ryan.
OT, but wasn't Calgary actually mentioned in one of the episodes too? I seem to recall in one of the stories that one of the crew went to Calgary for a shore leave or something.
Wesley mentioned that he went to Calgary to do some skiing. This was after we had hosted the Winter Olympics so maybe that had some resonance at the time.
Why would the Cardassians even let him be the Constable anyway? It'd be like the Nazi's occupying France, discovering that some French scientist had discovered a new species of intelligent frog, and then saying, "hey, instead of having a trustworthy and loyal Nazi to be our enforcement agent, we're going to appoint this frog the French guy found"
Then the Nazi's would ship off said frog to be experimented on.
To me Odo was a collaberator.
But old Kira probably saw the advantage of dating a shape shifter.
Kira - "You know what I'd like Odo . . . . Be John Holmes"
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I went to the Summer Glau and Shatner ones last year. Glau was boring, her answers so so prepped it was obvious. Shatner was the same, I left it was boring.
I really want to ask Brent Spiner what it was like to work with Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon in Out to Sea.
I've only ever attended one of these things and it was Nimoy's because everybody said he was retiring that year. It was fun but not overly entertaining. More like a bunch of fans worshipping their idol, trying not to be overly Trekkies but politely asking him about his other works like playing Fiddler on the Roof on Broadway etc. One crazy fan tried to give him a script and he came out with the standard: "I am not accepting any material at this time".
I think the ones where it's just the one guest and the audience are all kind of boring and non-insightful in that way. The fans line up at the mic and ask questions and the guest might have a few things to say but they are usually tangential to what fans actually want to hear.
From what you've said, I think you really should goto this one though because it's the ones where a bunch of cast members are together on stage that they start making fun of each other or telling old stories and everything just comes out because they are interacting with their buddies instead of a bunch of nerds in the audience all staring at their proverbial gods. I've seen clips where 3-4 people are together and they are pretty great but nobody has ever had the entire TNG cast at once (minus Whoopi and Meany). That's pretty insane if you think about it. It's usually just some dudes from Voyager and a guy who played a Klingon once.
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