Calgary woman brutally assaulted in Mexican resort

[Ozy_Flame]

Well if you have street smarts and don't stray too far from the resorts (most resorts; a few are sketchy as hell), you shouldn't have a problem. I know myself and others would prefer to take our business to Cuba, the DR, or other islands. Those places aren't an arm and a leg more expensive than Mexico is.

Plus, has anyone ever been to Tahiti or Fiji? It is more pricey to get there for sure, but it's pretty cheap when you're there. Plus the beaches are pretty amazing. It's something to check out if you want a really laid-back, blue ocean, white beach experience.

[jeffh]

I stayed at this resort a few weeks ago. There were no surveillance camera's in any of the 6 elevators, or any in the hallways on floors 2 and up. In fact, I didn't see a single surveillance camera when I was there. I certainly gave it a good look over when I was in the elevator. Probably some at the main entrance and lobby, but I didn't see any. The security guard at the main building entrance was pretty strict on making sure anyone who got passed him had a wristband(non-hopper haha) on.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

This was posted earlier in the thread.....

Dude, no. Not Kosher. ...hahaha

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by jeffh

I stayed at this resort a few weeks ago. There were no surveillance camera's in any of the 6 elevators, or any in the hallways on floors 2 and up. In fact, I didn't see a single surveillance camera when I was there. I certainly gave it a good look over when I was in the elevator. Probably some at the main entrance and lobby, but I didn't see any. The security guard at the main building entrance was pretty strict on making sure anyone who got passed him had a wristband(non-hopper haha) on.

you married perchance?

[jeffh]

afc wimbledom... yeah.

I was bringing it up as I had noticed back on about page 4 that people were questioning a lack of security(there were about 3 security guards working at any given time) and why a lack of surveillance ... I/we thought it was quite safe and we would actually recommend the Riu Emerald Bay. Another thing is that the Riu resort chain stocks your personal bar fridge with Pepsi, Sprite, Ginger Ale, Club Soda, Beer, and bottled water, as well as a 4 bottle liquor dispensing thing, but no snacks stocked in the room, I think the only place open where she may have wanted to go for a 3am snack would be the Sports Lounge on the main floor. I don't think the confectionary store was open after 11pm. If she wanted any sorta meds, she would have had to hit up the nurse/doctor station. Our rooms were near the elevators, and even being a heavy sleeper, I was still awoken by early morning loud talkers. The place is entirely built out of concrete and has wicked accoustics.

[Raekwon]

I doubt its the husband and if it is I doubt she knows it, the article said she recognized him and her parents when she woke up and I would imagine if she knew he did it she would have had a reaction to seeing him.

[Pizza]

For those who are defending traveling to Mexico with 1 in a million stats, I'd like to know if the stats are worse at other Caribbean tourist areas like Cuba or DR

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Dude, no. Not Kosher. ...hahaha

I'm sorry. Image has been adjusted to better represent it's posting history.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

However, to say cheap booze vacations are the only reason to go is not fair. Last time I was there, I went to Tulum, Xel-Ha, and Chichen Itza. All three were absolutely amazing, and absolutely unique.

If you can afford to spend more, there are way better destinations, but I think everyone should see the Mayan Riviera once in their lives, and that means more than hitting up Carlos and Charlie's and Senor Frogs in Cancun.

Agreed. If you're just going for the beaches to get whammy'd, I agree there's much better options in the Caribbean than Mexico if you can afford it (actually Cuba's pretty much just as cheap, and its illegal for beach vendors there to bug you). But Chichen Itza/Tulum/Coba, etc is the reason why my next tropical vacation will be to the Mayan Riviera. Just gotta see that stuff and nerd out on it once in my lifetime before I probably kiss Mexico goodbye for good.

Would love to go to Teotihuacan one time too, but I'm not sure how safe that whole area is right now. So much cool history in that country.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by valo403

I certainly agree that if you're going based on pure statistics in incidents of this type the husband is probably the most likely culprit, but that's a pretty lame argument to hang your hat on without anything else to hang your hat on.

It's not just that. It's also:

1) Lack of sexual assault
2) Lack of robbery
3) The nature of the injuries

As I said, yes, it's possible that it was a random "the next person I see dies" kind of crime, but those are very rare, especially given the location. Yes, it's possible this was an attempted sexual assault that turned into a beating. It's possible the Zetas are responsible.

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. I did assign 18% probability to the "other" explanations, which I think is pretty reasonable.

[Rhettzky]

Read this edit to a sun article this morning:

They said Andrew had remained a “pillar” through the traumatic ordeal.
“It just goes to show exactly how much he truly loves her,” they said.

Police found bloody tracks in a hallway and believe Nabb may have been attacked somewhere else and dragged to the elevator, Mexican media reported.
Reports from Mexico said one police source was told by hotel staff Nabb had been drinking with someone earlier Thursday night.

I don't get it though. Less than 6 hours into your trip you are drinking with someone else already? Just seems odd.

[Sainters7]

Meh, I could potentially see it, especially if they arrived/checked in by early evening. And if she's of the sociable variety, as the pubs there are easy to meet people. Husband: "I'm tired from that flight/dinner, may head to bed early", Wifey: "Oh really? We just got here, I want to celebrate!". Husband: "Have fun, I'm going to bed".

I could see the girl and I having that convo day 1 at a resort, she's a bit younger and got a lot more energy than myself. Agreed though it is a little suspicious, just sayin that I could see it happening. Especially if they were already out for a nightcap and he decided to head up back to the room while she stayed down there.

[killer_carlson]

It is an automatic that the husband will be blamed by the mexican police.

I don't buy it.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

It's not just that. It's also:

1) Lack of sexual assault
2) Lack of robbery
3) The nature of the injuries

As I said, yes, it's possible that it was a random "the next person I see dies" kind of crime, but those are very rare, especially given the location. Yes, it's possible this was an attempted sexual assault that turned into a beating. It's possible the Zetas are responsible.

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. I did assign 18% probability to the "other" explanations, which I think is pretty reasonable.

Lack of sexual assault: You've seen the medical reports??
Lack of robbery: You've seen the police reports??
Nature of the injuries: This is about all you have to go on, and it's an incredibly weak argument.

Like I said, I agree that the odds would likely support it being someone she knew, such as her husband, but you have absolutely nothing of substance to support that.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Meh, I could potentially see it, especially if they arrived/checked in by early evening. And if she's of the sociable variety, as the pubs there are easy to meet people. Husband: "I'm tired from that flight/dinner, may head to bed early", Wifey: "Oh really? We just got here, I want to celebrate!". Husband: "Have fun, I'm going to bed".

I could see the girl and I having that convo day 1 at a resort, she's a bit younger and got a lot more energy than myself. Agreed though it is a little suspicious, just sayin that I could see it happening. Especially if they were already out for a nightcap and he decided to head up back to the room while she stayed down there.

really?

ahh, most red blooded males (especially mid/late 30's age) arent turning in for the night when their SO is party drinking at a resort on the first night of vacation, if you know what i mean.

i am not commenting on whether he did or didnt try to kill her, but i find it hard to believe a scenario where a guy is going to go to bed *on his own* the first night of vacation and leave his wife drinking in the bar.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by valo403

Lack of sexual assault: You've seen the medical reports??
Lack of robbery: You've seen the police reports??
Nature of the injuries: This is about all you have to go on, and it's an incredibly weak argument.

Like I said, I agree that the odds would likely support it being someone she knew, such as her husband, but you have absolutely nothing of substance to support that.

I'm just basing my opinion on what has been made available. If it comes out that she was SA'd then, obviously, it's a completely different situation.

The interwebz would be very boring if the only posts one could make were "well, I don't know enough to have an opinion.... also, thoughts & prayers." Typically, the media reports it if there was a SA - they haven't. So, my opinion is based on what has come out so far - a brutal facial beating. If the facts change dramatically, so will my opinion.

[Doodlebug]

Apparently a similar incident happened to a canadian couple last spring staying at the same resort. Although it sounds like they were off resort at the time.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...io-couple.html

[valo403]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I'm just basing my opinion on what has been made available. If it comes out that she was SA'd then, obviously, it's a completely different situation.

The interwebz would be very boring if the only posts one could make were "well, I don't know enough to have an opinion.... also, thoughts & prayers." Typically, the media reports it if there was a SA - they haven't. So, my opinion is based on what has come out so far - a brutal facial beating. If the facts change dramatically, so will my opinion.

It's sort of beyond not knowing enough to have an opinion, you don't know anything, and yet you're waging a pretty extensive campaign here. It would be one thing if it was a one of post on the statistics of who is responsible in cases like this, but it's been a bit more than that. You've pretty much come to a conclusion based on stats that you haven't even cited.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Doodlebug

Apparently a similar incident happened to a canadian couple last spring staying at the same resort. Although it sounds like they were off resort at the time.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...io-couple.html

It's not similar if they were off the resort at the time.

and what kind of idiots don't have travel insurance when travelling to Mexico or the US?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Doodlebug

Apparently a similar incident happened to a canadian couple last spring staying at the same resort. Although it sounds like they were off resort at the time.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...io-couple.html

I read about that yesterday.

They seem to believe that it is a scam where they injure people and then the clinic/hospital pays to have them taken there so they get the money.

That seems a little far fetched though.