Calgary woman brutally assaulted in Mexican resort

[troutman]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I'm setting the betting line at:

82% - Husband

High? Low?

Canadian attacked in Mexico out of coma
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../19287551.html

"She has a long road of recovery ahead of her, but we all know that Sheila will pull through this with the support of everyone she has ever met — and many that have never met her," her siblings said, adding her husband has been a "pillar" of support.

"It just goes to show exactly how much he truly loves her," they said.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Slacker

Being from Venezuela and moved here almost 8 years ago, that is a place I'm not thinking to return anytime soon. The stuff I hear from family and friends is not pleasant.

Caracas is probably the worst place in Venezuela right now, maybe Maracaibo might be the second worst since it's a few hours away from the Colombian border.

Living there would be survival.
Even though I was with business contacts from there i was damn scared. I stopped counting how many people i saw get mugged in the open daylight.
Gangs seemed to be everywhere.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by troutman

Canadian attacked in Mexico out of coma
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2.../19287551.html

"She has a long road of recovery ahead of her, but we all know that Sheila will pull through this with the support of everyone she has ever met — and many that have never met her," her siblings said, adding her husband has been a "pillar" of support.

"It just goes to show exactly how much he truly loves her," they said.

That doesn't say much, other than that her relatives are not blaming the husband (yet). Given the lack of sexual assault, there is still no other reasonable probable explanation.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

That doesn't say much, other than that her relatives are not blaming the husband (yet). Given the lack of sexual assault, there is still no other reasonable probable explanation.

Sexual assault is the only reason women are attacked?

Edit: by someone other than their husband that is?

[Ozy_Flame]

With the ongoing drug wars and seemingly endless murders and assaults on North Americans (I doubt perpetrators care if they're American or Canadian), I have actively avoided that region and don't plan on going back any time soon.

You want beaches? Spend a bit more and go to some of the Caribbean islands. Better yet, spend more and go to Tahiti or Fiji.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Sexual assault is the only reason women are attacked?

Edit: by someone other than their husband that is?

Robbery or sexual assault would be the main reasons. If it was robbery, why beat her to near death, in the face no less? Seems too personal, and the fact nobody tried to burglarize the room has already been brought up. If there is no sexual assault, that leaves some random "I'll beat the shart out of the next person I see" sort of crime, or that this woman/her husband were involved in "something" (i.e. owed money to wrong people, stole drugs, etc). These last two scenarios are very, very rare and therefore unlikely, while a drunken domestic beating is sadly all too common and plausible. Hence, my "82% husband" guesstimate. Is it possible it was a random beating? Sure, it's possible - it's just that the other is a far more likely explanation.

[Mike Vernon]

So was she decapitated on a Bus? Oh wait that was in Canada.

[FlamesAddiction]

There are so many possibilities.

1) It could be related to Mexico's violent war on drugs, but that is doubtful at a resort.

2) It could have been a Mexican employee of the resort or locals that snuck in, maybe as a failed robbery.

3) The woman might have snuck out to have an encounter with another man and was beaten by a jealous lover.

4) It might have been another guest... perhaps just a random psychopath.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With the ongoing drug wars and seemingly endless murders and assaults on North Americans (I doubt perpetrators care if they're American or Canadian), I have actively avoided that region and don't plan on going back any time soon.

You want beaches? Spend a bit more and go to some of the Caribbean islands. Better yet, spend more and go to Tahiti or Fiji.

Why? I can be comfortable going to a beach in Mexico, not to mention its closer and likely cheaper.

[Slacker]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Living there would be survival.
Even though I was with business contacts from there i was damn scared. I stopped counting how many people i saw get mugged in the open daylight.
Gangs seemed to be everywhere.

It got really bad in 2003. There is/was (I'm no longer checking Venezuelan news anymore) some regulations on some food items like milk, sugar, eggs, meat, etc. It something like 2 items per person and the prices of those items skyrocketed.

For what I hear from my grandparents, people there lost the value of a human life and it became survival like you said.

If you were seeing muggings during the day, I don't want to see what happens at night.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There are so many possibilities.

1) It could be related to Mexico's violent war on drugs, but that is doubtful at a resort.

2) It could have been a Mexican employee of the resort or locals that snuck in, maybe as a failed robbery.

3) The woman might have snuck out to have an encounter with another man and was beaten by a jealous lover.

4) It might have been another guest... perhaps just a random psychopath.

Sure, plus (5) husband, but it's not like these probabilities are 20%, 20%, 20%, 20%, 20%.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With the ongoing drug wars and seemingly endless murders and assaults on North Americans (I doubt perpetrators care if they're American or Canadian), I have actively avoided that region and don't plan on going back any time soon.

You want beaches? Spend a bit more and go to some of the Caribbean islands. Better yet, spend more and go to Tahiti or Fiji.

Sounds great !!! 24 hours on a plane or in an airport and $4000 each for a week. Sounds fantastic...



But wait... There was a Tsunami in the south pacific before. So no.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Living there would be survival.
Even though I was with business contacts from there i was damn scared. I stopped counting how many people i saw get mugged in the open daylight.
Gangs seemed to be everywhere.

Originally Posted by Slacker

It got really bad in 2003. There is/was (I'm no longer checking Venezuelan news anymore) some regulations on some food items like milk, sugar, eggs, meat, etc. It something like 2 items per person and the prices of those items skyrocketed.

For what I hear from my grandparents, people there lost the value of a human life and it became survival like you said.

If you were seeing muggings during the day, I don't want to see what happens at night.

I was just relieved that when it came time for dinner they didn't want to take me out anywhere instead we had a big meal at the vp's home.

Its sad how impoverished Venzuela's people are but the related Oil Industry is thriving.
My client told me not rent a car that they would meet and drive me to the hotel. Car Jackings are rampant apparently.
I was only there for 3 days.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Is there such a thing as a 'correct turn' off the the Ambassador Bridge that doesn't end up in a ghetto?

Ironically enough, the safest and nicest area near the Ambassador Bridge on the Detroit side is Mexicantown.

Aside from that, its ghetto until you hit Downtown or the next city.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Robbery or sexual assault would be the main reasons. If it was robbery, why beat her to near death, in the face no less? Seems too personal, and the fact nobody tried to burglarize the room has already been brought up. If there is no sexual assault, that leaves some random "I'll beat the shart out of the next person I see" sort of crime, or that this woman/her husband were involved in "something" (i.e. owed money to wrong people, stole drugs, etc). These last two scenarios are very, very rare and therefore unlikely, while a drunken domestic beating is sadly all too common and plausible. Hence, my "82% husband" guesstimate. Is it possible it was a random beating? Sure, it's possible - it's just that the other is a far more likely explanation.

Im still not sure how you are coming up this 82% probability (tongue and cheek somewhat I know), or dismissing the other possibilities for that matter- especially considering what little evidence we have.

Her husband doing it is one of many possibilities, as is a robbery (possibly botched), random assault, a continuation of an argument/fight that occurred earlier in the evening with other parties etc... I acknowledge of course that the husband assaulting her is a possibility, but only one of many.

The only personal character knowledge we have of the husband is A/ some positive testimony given by family members and B/ the thoughts of one CP member that knows him and doesn't think he is capable of such a crime.

Sure, his twitter account handle might suggest an affinity for smoking weed, but it certainly isn't enough to assign him as the most likely guilty party... although I admit that someone passionate enough about pot to include a reference to it in his twitter name may likely be lookin to get high while on a vacation in Mexico

[Flabbibulin]

meh... nevermind

[valo403]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Sure, plus (5) husband, but it's not like these probabilities are 20%, 20%, 20%, 20%, 20%.

I certainly agree that if you're going based on pure statistics in incidents of this type the husband is probably the most likely culprit, but that's a pretty lame argument to hang your hat on without anything else to hang your hat on.

[Stay Golden]

hopefully the real story will come out soon now that the victim has regained consciousness.
I'm still not ruling the husband out as the main suspect. Regardless what has been said.

A facial beating like that is personal. What a horrible horrible ordeal this women has gone through and i'm 100% sure it was intended for her to be dead.

If it is the husband. Im no lawyer but wouldn't that mean a Mexican jail. Gringo in a Mexican jail welcome to hell.

[ken0042]

I have also seen two accounts where her husband is there at the hospital, and that the wife recognizes her.

A) If the authorities thought the hudband might be responsible; would he be allowed near her?
B) While her recolections may be fuzzy, I would think she would either recat badly to the husband being there if he did it; or that if I was the husband I wouldn't want to take that risk.

I put the likelyhood of it being the husband closer to 22%.

[GP_Matt]

I would give odds that the hotel is hiding something or had already cleaned up the area before the police arrived. After reading some of the reports of denial from that hotel that had the explosion I wouldn't be surprised if the surveillance tape wasn't working that night or if the maid got in to clean their room in the morning.