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Old 01-18-2012, 02:56 PM   #101
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:20 PM   #102
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A bit off topic and not meant to lighten the tragedy, but the way that these ships are salvaged is really cool. This is a great read for anyone interested.
Unreal read! It took me a day going back and forth between work (it always gets in the way!) and reading this and all I can say is wow! Those are some real men, I'd be too busy pissing myself to get anything done.
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A ship like (large modern cruise ship with an extremely tall superstructure) this has never been salvaged before. It will be interesting. They are cutting all kinds of holes in the hull in the search for the missing pax. Will be difficult to seal the hull and then pump the water out.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:58 PM   #104
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A ship like (large modern cruise ship with an extremely tall superstructure) this has never been salvaged before. It will be interesting. They are cutting all kinds of holes in the hull in the search for the missing pax. Will be difficult to seal the hull and then pump the water out.
Apparently they are not going to, they're just going to scrap it.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:05 PM   #105
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Actually, due to it's design (not size) it was marketed as a unsinkable ship and I would imagine a lot of people believed it back in those days..I highly doubt the captain bought in to that though.
Myth.

No one ever claimed that the Titanic was "unsinkable". The quote, "practically unsinkable" was taken out of context. In 1911, Shipbuilder magazine published an article describing the construction of the Titanic. The article stated that when the watertight doors were closed, the ship would be "practically unsinkable".
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:09 PM   #106
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A ship like (large modern cruise ship with an extremely tall superstructure) this has never been salvaged before. It will be interesting. They are cutting all kinds of holes in the hull in the search for the missing pax. Will be difficult to seal the hull and then pump the water out.
The holes are being made through the top of the boat, not the metal hull.

It will float as long as there is buoyancy. The plan was to pump out the water and use airbags. The biggest problem is that the boat right now isn't sinking because it's perched on an underwater ledge. If it slips off, it's game over.
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Myth.

No one ever claimed that the Titanic was "unsinkable". The quote, "practically unsinkable" was taken out of context. In 1911, Shipbuilder magazine published an article describing the construction of the Titanic. The article stated that when the watertight doors were closed, the ship would be "practically unsinkable".
My grandpa has an article from then which has the Vice President of White Star Line (Titanic) quoted saying "There is no danger that Titanic will sink. The boat is unsinkable and nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the passengers". And after it sunk said something along the lines of 'from what experts told me it shouldn't have sank'.
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Approriate punishment for a Captain's cowardice

Keelhauling was meted out to sailors for minor infractions at sea. Typically the victim was tied to a rope looped beneath the vessel, thrown overboard, and then dragged under the keel and up the other side. Since the keel was usually encrusted with barnacles and other crud the guy's hide would be scraped raw and he'd think twice about doing whatever it was he'd gotten keelhauled for again. Sometimes they heaped chains and such on him to add injury to insult
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Captain Cluck Cluck now says he left the ship accidentally after tripping and falling into a lifeboat.

http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/c.j...0db&cid=578815

Once again, I am amazed this personality could end up running a cruise ship worth hundreds of millions of dollars. The company looks incredibly stupid.

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Is this going to be a billion dollar law suit?
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Captain Cluck Cluck now says he left the ship accidentally after tripping and falling into a lifeboat.
they are calling him "Chicken of the Sea"

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they are calling him "Chicken of the Sea"

Pretty sure he knew that, hence "cluck cluck" being a play on chicken.
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The holes are being made through the top of the boat, not the metal hull.

It will float as long as there is buoyancy. The plan was to pump out the water and use airbags. The biggest problem is that the boat right now isn't sinking because it's perched on an underwater ledge. If it slips off, it's game over.
I think it was a company spokesperson on the BBC essentially saying the cost of a salvage and refit wasn't practicle, that the boat was essentially a write off, I assume as a cruise ships interior is all soft furnishings and the like, unlike a cargo ship that is mostly just a big steel box and therefore relatively easy to clean out and refit.
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I'm sure the Italian court system/process has some fundamental differences than ours, but this guy's lawyer is showing real incompetence by allowing Captain Cluck Cluck to keep making these ridiculous statements.
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Pretty sure by the end of the week they will have pinned Meredith Kercher's murder on this guy too. talk about being public enemy number 1!
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Has anyone heard the transcript between him and the Port Authority? Hilarious. The way the woman translates it, she injects a certain drama to the whole affair that is missing otherwise.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/transc...1#.TxhjBqVSTCd
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:17 AM   #117
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Honestly this is the story that just keeps on giving. It's like my own personal Wannamaker. What more can I ask for? He'd basically have to have done all that pantless to get any better.
Maybe he was removing them.... could have been contributing factor to this....

Concordia captain claims he ‘tripped’, fell from stricken cruise ship
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Maybe he was removing them.... could have been contributing factor to this....

Concordia captain claims he ‘tripped’, fell from stricken cruise ship
"Doctor, you'll never believe how that cucumber got stuck up my ass. I just tripped and fell on top of it...total freak accident!"
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Doomed ship's captain told port: 'It's just a blackout'

ROME -- A new audiotape emerged Thursday of the first contact between Livorno port officials and the Costa Concordia -- and the captain is heard insisting that his cruise ship only had a blackout a full 30 minutes after it had rammed into a reef.
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"The ship shook for a while, and then the crockery stated falling all over," said Indian Kandari Surjan Singh, who worked in the ship's galley. "People started panicking. Then the captain ordered that everything is under control and said it was a normal electric fault ... so people calmed down after that."
Sickening, they likely could have gotten everyone off safely if they had made the right call sooner.

I can't help but wonder if any of the missing could still be alive somewhere in the ship.
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"Doctor, you'll never believe how that cucumber got stuck up my ass. I just tripped and fell on top of it...total freak accident!"

Replace Cucumber with hamster and you've written the Richard Gere autobiography
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