I actually agree with Mikey . . .Political talk on a first date is heavy . . . That can get easily derailed. If both people know lots about politics, there is bound to be some head-butting. If only one person knows politics, it's a conversation that goes nowhere. And if neither know politics but chat about them anyways, it can make for some awkward moments and quickly searching for the next topic, which we all know can be the fragile goat for making a second date.
I used to write relationship advice - politics is not recommended on the first date at all.
Stay away from Gold Diggers.
You will find your second degree has brought you more pain than happiness when that extra 20 grand a year you've now earned goes to pay for weekly shopping excursions to buy new dresses, and daily lunches at earls with a healthy order of Bellini's.
Maybe the secret is for men to stay single in perpetuity and just have good old fashion irresponsible fun.
It seems thats the path alot of women have taken today. Self Actualization / Hedonism in place of a family.
If I had to judge, I'd say more often than not 20 something year old women are more irresponsible than 20 something year old men.
But that could just be the Archie Bunker in me talking....
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You guys need to masturbate furiously before going out and meeting chicks. It will lower your stress levels and give you an who-gives-a-**** attitude that girls will find attractive.
Plus it has the added benefit of making you last longer if she does decide to go home with you that night.
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You guys need to masturbate furiously before going out and meeting chicks. It will lower your stress levels and give you an who-gives-a-**** attitude that girls will find attractive.
Also...don't wash your hands after. The pheromones your hands gives off while shaking theirs will give you an advantage over the other guys.
You guys need to masturbate furiously before going out and meeting chicks. It will lower your stress levels and give you an who-gives-a-**** attitude that girls will find attractive.
Plus it has the added benefit of making you last longer if she does decide to go home with you that night.
Unless you're over 45, in which case you just fall asleep after jerking off and get woken up by your mate on the phone asking where the hell you are.
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You guys need to masturbate furiously before going out and meeting chicks. It will lower your stress levels and give you an who-gives-a-**** attitude that girls will find attractive.
Plus it has the added benefit of making you last longer if she does decide to go home with you that night.
My list of goals doesn't include being spotted at the trendiest restaurants or coffee shops or buying a nicer car than my neighbors or shopping at the fanciest stores. I am happy wearing a pair of jeans, tshirt and a hat and playing xbox with my buddies. The idea that this is some sort of adolescent lifestyle is misleading. Who determines that? Are we really going to judge ourselves from the standards of generations previously that all men need to be stoic and super serious 24/7?
I certainly agree with the fact that men in Vancouver, and elsewhere, are generally poorly dressed. It doesn't have to take a lot of money to be well dressed and it will help your looks immensely (and can be just as comfortable). Buy things that fit and you'll automatically look better than most men in the room. I think many men find that paying attention to how you look/what you wear is "gay", while women find it attractive. This scene from the greatest television show ever made comes to mind:
I'm in my mid-20's and have finally started dressing like a grown ass man. Now, I haven't been single in years, so I guess maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but oh well.
The girl in the article seems like a typical "lost girl of Yaletown" to me. They model their lives around Sex in the City, every day is cocktails with the ladies at Global or Cactus Club, yoga and walks with their 5 pound yapping dog.
They look good, but there's so many here that do that their "stock" goes down due to simple supply and demand and they can't stand it.
They're all looking for the same exact guy: great job, great car, nice place, dresses well, looks like Brad Pitt and will come sweep them off their feet any day now.
A lot of them go through a little crises around 30 when they realize they haven't found him and have passed on a lot of good guys in trying.
I find it extremely easy to meet women here, and extremely hard to meet good ones. Easy to get dates, hard to get a good relationship.
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The girl in the article seems like a typical "lost girl of Yaletown" to me. They model their lives around Sex in the City, every day is cocktails with the ladies at Global or Cactus Club, yoga and walks with their 5 pound yapping dog.
They look good, but there's so many here that do that their "stock" goes down due to simple supply and demand and they can't stand it.
They're all looking for the same exact guy: great job, great car, nice place, dresses well, looks like Brad Pitt and will come sweep them off their feet any day now.
A lot of them go through a little crises around 30 when they realize they haven't found him and have passed on a lot of good guys in trying.
I find it extremely easy to meet women here, and extremely hard to meet good ones. Easy to get dates, hard to get a good relationship.
Man you are so bang on with this it's shocking. I manage at a restaurant in Yaletown, I'm not gonna name the restaurant but we're a busy spot, anyways I obviously get my fair share of Vancouver/Yaletown women frequenting the joint. A few weeks ago these two women who were single and in their early thirties, 33 I think, were in the restaurant and I started chatting with them and they started to ask me "where they can meet good men" in this city, a question of I could not answer because I have never searched for men.
However I asked them what they wanted in a guy and I kid you not she said "tall, handsome, athletic, smart, funny, good job..." I told her she was single at her age for a reason (she did not like this) as her expectations were far to high and guys like this are not the norm and that she should be open to new things and understand that there might be certain concessions that you will have to make. I'm not saying that these concessions means that she should date the homeless guy across the street but MAYBE things like the body of Michelangelos David and a BMW M3 are not really things that hold much weight when it comes to personally connecting with someone. Somehow these women seem to all think they "deserve" this ideal man.
There is this certain male archetype that is ingrained in the psyche of a lot of Vancouver women that is quite frankly unrealistic and has ultimately resulted in articles being published about how WE suck. Men have their flaws, some play video games, some smoke weed, some don't open doors for women, some do, so what, get to know someone and try to look past their shortcomings.
I must add that I am from Calgary and not from Vancouver so maybe I don't qualify for this article, but I know a lot of guys from Van that are good guys, with a lot to offer.
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Man you are so bang on with this it's shocking. I manage at a restaurant in Yaletown, I'm not gonna name the restaurant but we're a busy spot, anyways I obviously get my fair share of Vancouver/Yaletown women frequenting the joint. A few weeks ago these two women who were single and in their early thirties, 33 I think, were in the restaurant and I started chatting with them and they started to ask me "where they can meet good men" in this city, a question of I could not answer because I have never searched for men.
However I asked them what they wanted in a guy and I kid you not she said "tall, handsome, athletic, smart, funny, good job..." I told her she was single at her age for a reason (she did not like this) as her expectations were far to high and guys like this are not the norm and that she should be open to new things and understand that there might be certain concessions that you will have to make. I'm not saying that these concessions means that she should date the homeless guy across the street but MAYBE things like the body of Michelangelos David and a BMW M3 are not really things that hold much weight when it comes to personally connecting with someone. Somehow these women seem to all think they "deserve" this ideal man.
There is this certain male archetype that is ingrained in the psyche of a lot of Vancouver women that is quite frankly unrealistic and has ultimately resulted in articles being published about how WE suck. Men have their flaws, some play video games, some smoke weed, some don't open doors for women, some do, so what, get to know someone and try to look past their shortcomings.
I must add that I am from Calgary and not from Vancouver so maybe I don't qualify for this article, but I know a lot of guys from Van that are good guys, with a lot to offer.
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We've all met them, and maybe Vancouver has a higher concentration of them for whatever reason, but I think where you put it best was:
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Somehow these women seem to all think they "deserve" this ideal man.
Now, I'd crack a Canucks joke at the sense of entitlement that seems to flow through the streets of Vancouver, but I think the more important point at the moment is that this isnt how you go through life.
Women who feel they 'deserve' their perfect man are in many ways just like men who think they 'deserve' their perfect woman. In a word; 'insane.'
If you're out there looking for perfection then I hope you're standing outside a lot of plastic surgery clinics or scooping up women outside Fortune 500 companies after their successful interviews.
Perfect is boring. These people are selling themselves short.
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Maybe the secret is for men to stay single in perpetuity and just have good old fashion irresponsible fun.
I know this was partially in jest, but it brings up an interesting question. We keep hearing that men are taking longer to grow up, that men are declining, men no longer want to commit, etc. The question is, why would we? Unless a man truly wants children, then what reason does he have to get married or commit to a woman, other than to appease her wishes.
If you believe the socio-biological theories regarding men and sexual promiscuity, then it makes sense why marriage is declining. We're hardwired to spread our seed to as many different partners as possible, and marriage severely limits those opportunities. Prior to the sexual revolution, people generally only had 1-2 sexual partners over entire lifetimes, and marriage was often the only way to secure sexual activity.
These days I think it's pretty rare to find people in 20-30 age range who've had less than 10 sexual partners, and most guys know that you can be sexually active without being married. There are still cultural and psychological stigmas attached to promiscuity among women, which also stem from socio-biological factors. Men generally don't want to commit to women who've had an abundance of sexual partners. This is pretty evident in the deification of female virginity in pretty much all cultures. Is this hypocritical? Absolutely, but there is evidence that this train of thought is pretty well hardwired into most men.
If you think the socio-biological aspect is crap when it comes to promiscuity, then there are other psychological and cultural factors that play into it. For most guys, sex is at least partially an affirmation of their own status. Again this might socially constructed or reinforced by conservative morality teachings that have led many men to believe that women will only have sex with men they truly care about. However, for women who've had multiple partners it's hard to make the case that sexual intimacy with one particular man is indicative of a special bond.
Taking sex out of the equation, you can look at relationships from an emotional perspective and it's still a hard sell for men in the present. I've yet to know a guy who prefers the company of his wife/girlfriend to his buddies in any area other than the bedroom. Even if this were the case, as it is right now a guy can have emotional relationships with more women by not committing than he can by committing to one woman. I've also yet to meet an honest dude who enjoys doing non-bedroom things with his wife/girlfriend more than his buddies.
I suppose there's always the love angle, but I think with the way we're finding ourselves in an increasingly disnechanted and rational world, most people are realizing that the concept of love is more a measure of compatibility than any kind of magical connection with a single person.
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I must add that I am from Calgary and not from Vancouver so maybe I don't qualify for this article, but I know a lot of guys from Van that are good guys, with a lot to offer.
Yeah I'm the same boat so I think we get the benefit of looking at this with a bit of an outsiders view compared to local Vancouverites.
I haven't lived in many cities but I certainly feel the difference between Calgary and Vancouver is noticeable (although I'd argue Calgary's snobby women class is growing too).
Taking sex out of the equation, you can look at relationships from an emotional perspective and it's still a hard sell for men in the present. I've yet to know a guy who prefers the company of his wife/girlfriend to his buddies in any area other than the bedroom. Even if this were the case, as it is right now a guy can have emotional relationships with more women by not committing than he can by committing to one woman. I've also yet to meet an honest dude who enjoys doing non-bedroom things with his wife/girlfriend more than his buddies.
Good post but I think this part is quite sad. I can honestly say that my wife is my best friend. Obviously that doesn't mean that I want to spend every waking moment with her, but there are plenty of times where I prefer her company to the company of my mostly idiotic friends. I can't be the only man who feels like this, can I?
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