2011 Stampeders Thread

[Da_Chief]

BRITISH COLUMBIA LIONS
FB Jamaal Lee
DL Aaron Hunt
DL Khalif Mitchell
DB Dante Marsh
DB Ryan Phillips


EDMONTON ESKIMOS
DL Greg Peach
LB Rod Davis


CALGARY STAMPEDERS
LB Brandon Isaac


SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS
WR Andy Fantuz
LB Jerrell Freeman


WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS

QB Alex Brink
WR Greg Carr
OL Brendon LaBatte
DL Don Oramasionwu
DB Ian Logan


HAMILTON TIGER-CATS
OL Simeon Rottier
DL Matt Kirk
DL Justin Hickman
LB Ike Brown


MONTREAL ALOUETTES

TORONTO ARGONAUTS
DB Byron Parker


Guys that interest me for the Stamps. lets get them all Huff!

[cross16]

Hopefully someone like Peach or Aaron Hunt is high on the priority list. They really need someone who can provide a pash rush.

Anyone have a word on what the condition to the draft pick is? I'm assuming it would be linked to how far Hamilton goes in the playoffs.

Food for thoughts for people who maybe think Huff missed the boat on this.
Toronto gave up a young, so/so stater, In Jyles a non import starter and a first round pick for Ricky ray who is two year's younger and coming off a much better season. Huff got a so/so, albeit older, QB, a non import starer(it would appear) and a pick for 35 year old Burris. Huff had to moe Burris, Tillman did not have to move Ray.

[PeteLFan]

This team is going to be much better without Burris fumbling and tumbling his way around. Turnovers should decrease as Tate improves, passes will be completed.

We have a young group of players that will grow together and get better together. Landon talley looks ready to take on a bigger role, forzani looks ready to take another step forward, nik is nik, we have Arthur and Parker waiting. Let's not forget the best Canadian in the league John Cornish.

[Stay Golden]

Trade had to happen, Stamps had to move that contract lets rebuild our D now. Please bring in some D line help.

For me Burris was done when he got heated at the home crowd and then proceded to throw what looked like a intercepetion the very next play out of frustration.
Allot of great years but this past season after August it came to a crashing stop.

Rambo will be next.

[Drake]

I posted these in the CFL off season thread, Calgary loses Kris Sweet who becomes OC in Saskatchewan and Mike Gibson becomes the new OL coach.

[troutman]

Thanks Hank!

[browna]

Best of luck Hank.

Will be interesting to see who the whipping boy is now to pin many of the losses on.

Say what you want about Burris, outside of Calvillo, no QB I'd have rather had in the league for the past 7 years...stability included, coming out of the Feterik era.

Tate's, although he is the future, he's got a lot to learn and experience as a week to week CFL starter in 2012, so Glenn will be a no brainer replacement ready to step in at a moments notice if need be.

[Notorious Honey Badger]

Originally Posted by moon

Based on what?

He has been a mediocre to bad QB his whole career, didn't exactly seem overly happy when Porter came in last year and is getting older. What exactly about Glenn makes him a fantastic Back-up?

Is this a serious post? Are you actually for real or is this you trolling me? He's taken his team to the grey cup only to be hurt the game before, won playoff games, and been in the top half of CFL qb passer ratings for years now. And you dont think he can hold a clipboard and provide off the bench relief? Give me a break moon. Seriously.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Notorious Honey Badger

Is this a serious post? Are you actually for real or is this you trolling me? He's taken his team to the grey cup only to be hurt the game before, won playoff games, and been in the top half of CFL qb passer ratings for years now. And you dont think he can hold a clipboard and provide off the bench relief? Give me a break moon. Seriously.

Glenn's teams have had success despite him not because of him.

He is the master of the 12/15 for 150 yards in the first half so the stats look good but those stats go with 3 points in the half because he is unwilling/unable to make a big throw and much prefers to go with the safe dump off and ensure the team goes 2 and out.

Glenn is a fine QB if you want to win a few games and ensure that you do not win anything important. If you want a shot at the Cup Glenn had better not be anywhere near the team as he is not contributing anything positive to a team.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by moon

Glenn's teams have had success despite him not because of him.

He is the master of the 12/15 for 150 yards in the first half so the stats look good but those stats go with 3 points in the half because he is unwilling/unable to make a big throw and much prefers to go with the safe dump off and ensure the team goes 2 and out.

Glenn is a fine QB if you want to win a few games and ensure that you do not win anything important. If you want a shot at the Cup Glenn had better not be anywhere near the team as he is not contributing anything positive to a team.

Well it's not like Frank showed up for big games (won one Grey cup in his time here, thanks to the defence). So they basically cancel out each other's inability to win big games.

[showtime]

Originally Posted by moon

Glenn's teams have had success despite him not because of him.

He is the master of the 12/15 for 150 yards in the first half so the stats look good but those stats go with 3 points in the half because he is unwilling/unable to make a big throw and much prefers to go with the safe dump off and ensure the team goes 2 and out.

Glenn is a fine QB if you want to win a few games and ensure that you do not win anything important. If you want a shot at the Cup Glenn had better not be anywhere near the team as he is not contributing anything positive to a team.

12/15 and a 150 yards a half sounds pretty good to me. Especially with Cornish running the ball in addition to that. But I get it, you hate everything its your thing.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by moon

Glenn's teams have had success despite him not because of him.

He is the master of the 12/15 for 150 yards in the first half so the stats look good but those stats go with 3 points in the half because he is unwilling/unable to make a big throw and much prefers to go with the safe dump off and ensure the team goes 2 and out.

Glenn is a fine QB if you want to win a few games and ensure that you do not win anything important. If you want a shot at the Cup Glenn had better not be anywhere near the team as he is not contributing anything positive to a team.

But don't his numbers speak for themselves? I get the whole viewpoint that Glenn is average but he's not average in the cfl. Like burris, he is one of the top qbs.

The stamps have suffered the last few years due to turnovers and inconsistent production offensively. Burris was just unable to play within his means and not hurt the team. Glenn won't do any worse then burris and will likely do better if he plays at all this upcoming season. He doesn't have to do anything special, he just has to get the ball in the hands of our playmakers.

Why do you think he has to go out and win a game himself?

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by showtime

12/15 and a 150 yards a half sounds pretty good to me. Especially with Cornish running the ball in addition to that. But I get it, you hate everything its your thing.

Not True. Moon loves Burris, but hates everything/body else.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

But don't his numbers speak for themselves? I get the whole viewpoint that Glenn is average but he's not average in the cfl. Like burris, he is one of the top qbs.

The stamps have suffered the last few years due to turnovers and inconsistent production offensively. Glenn won't do any worse then burris and will likely do better if he plays at all this upcoming season. He doesn't have to do anything special, he just has to get the ball in the hands of our playmakers.

Why do you think he has to go out and win a game himself?

If Burris doesn't regress he's far better than Glenn. Which is why Hamilton had to also give us Dewit and a 2nd round pick to acquire him. The part of Moon's post was offside was the insinuation that Glenn isn't fit to hold the clipboard for Tate. How anyone can think that a starting QB for a playoff team couldn't even be a backup for another team I don't know.

If Glenn is Calgary's starting QB for injury or performance reasons I would agree that there's no Grey Cup to be won by the Stamps in 2012.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

If Burris doesn't regress he's far better than Glenn. Which is why Hamilton had to also give us Dewit and a 2nd round pick to acquire him. The part of Moon's post was offside was the insinuation that Glenn isn't fit to hold the clipboard for Tate. How anyone can think that a starting QB for a playoff team couldn't even be a backup for another team I don't know.

If Glenn is Calgary's starting QB for injury or performance reasons I would agree that there's no Grey Cup to be won by the Stamps in 2012.

He wouldn't be the cause of us not winning a grey cup. He's shown before he can manage talented teams and get them to the big game. Something burris has been pretty much completely unable to do at all.

The trouble with glenn is that he's only been on a couple of teams that were as talented as the stamps up until now. Burris has had that luxury for the better part of a decade and has all of one title to show for it so i'm not really sure how anyone can claim he's far superior to glenn.

Either way i'm sure tate will be fine running the show and it really doesn't matter who the backup is.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by moon

Glenn's teams have had success despite him not because of him.

He is the master of the 12/15 for 150 yards in the first half so the stats look good but those stats go with 3 points in the half because he is unwilling/unable to make a big throw and much prefers to go with the safe dump off and ensure the team goes 2 and out.

Glenn is a fine QB if you want to win a few games and ensure that you do not win anything important. If you want a shot at the Cup Glenn had better not be anywhere near the team as he is not contributing anything positive to a team.

Explain to me how Glenn manages to go 2 and out so much when he's averaging 10 yards/attempt, but doesn't make a big throw ever and just dumps the ball off. Your stats make no sense - get it together.

[moon]

Originally Posted by showtime

12/15 and a 150 yards a half sounds pretty good to me. Especially with Cornish running the ball in addition to that. But I get it, you hate everything its your thing.

You missed the point where the team only has 3 points.

Originally Posted by JayP

Explain to me how Glenn manages to go 2 and out so much when he's averaging 10 yards/attempt, but doesn't make a big throw ever and just dumps the ball off. Your stats make no sense - get it together.

Probably because the stats were randomly made up and used to illustrate the point that Glenn often has good looking stats but if you actually watch what happened you see that he didn't play well and his team is down more often than not.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

The part of Moon's post was offside was the insinuation that Glenn isn't fit to hold the clipboard for Tate. How anyone can think that a starting QB for a playoff team couldn't even be a backup for another team I don't know.

If Glenn is Calgary's starting QB for injury or performance reasons I would agree that there's no Grey Cup to be won by the Stamps in 2012.

I didn't say he wasn't fit to hold the clip board I don't think he is a fantastic back-up as someone said.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by moon

Probably because the stats were randomly made up and used to illustrate the point that Glenn often has good looking stats but if you actually watch what happened you see that he didn't play well and his team is down more often than not.

Yeah I know the stats are made up because you can't make a legitimate point without delving into ridiculous hyperbole.

But I'd like to see your breakdown and what's actually going on the field. If the stats don't match the play, surely you can provide more than cliches like "he can't make a big throw" and "he just dumps the ball off" to prove it.

Enlighten us.

[showtime]

Originally Posted by moon

I didn't say he wasn't fit to hold the clip board I don't think he is a fantastic back-up as someone said.

How is he not a fantastic backup? He's been a starter in the league for years. Taken teams to the playoffs. Won playoff games. Passed for over 3000 yards 7 seasons in a row. Season with over 5000 yards. He had one less touchdown pass then Burris did last year. Beat Montreal in Montreal in the playoffs.