Superbowl XL

[Pagal4321]

To add to Browna's list. After Hasselbeck is called for an illegal block(yes, one of the many bull**** calls), Rothlesberger throws a BLOCK BELOW THE KNEES of a Seattle defender on their tricky touchdown.

What a ****ing hideously officiated game...

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

To add to Browna's list. After Hasselbeck is called for an illegal block(yes, one of the many bull**** calls), Rothlesberger throws a BLOCK BELOW THE KNEES of a Seattle defender on their tricky touchdown.

What a ****ing hideously officiated game...

Rothlesberger's block was LEGAL, he was instide the tackle box which makes it a legal block in that area of the field. You notice how the never call a runningback or a lineman for making a block like that . But yes the the Hasselbeck block below the waist was BS.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I loved the fact that Madden kept mentioning that Bill Levy is the best official around and that this is an "all star team" or officials.

The Hassleback penalty was a bad call and the Jackson pass interference was a bad call.

The Seahwaks really had control at the beginning of this game. Its too bad they didnt win. It looked like they gave up because of the officiating.

[calgaryred]

When I see a bad game of calls I usually say the ref made bad choices and stupid calls. I do believe on the player in the NHL certain refs pigeon hole players certain players can get away with stuff while others get undeserved calls. I never truly question if the refs are being paid or try to determine an outcome of a game, but watching the Stupid bore ( and Iam not a Seahawks or Steelers fan) the refs really in my mind were trying to get the Steelers the victory, just like they trying to get the Colts theres.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by browna

Should be 24-17 SEA with compotent refereeing. Disgraceful and disgusting and completely in Pittsburgh's favor.

Seattle finished with 10 points. The Jackson push off TD would make it 17....so where in the hell do you get the other TD?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I loved the fact that Madden kept mentioning that Bill Levy is the best official around and that this is an "all star team" or officials.

The Hassleback penalty was a bad call and the Jackson pass interference was a bad call.

The Seahwaks really had control at the beginning of this game. Its too bad they didnt win. It looked like they gave up because of the officiating.

Everybody is the best at everything when Madden talks about them. He has no perspective.

As a big NFL watcher, and hopefully some others who watch as many games as I do can back me up on this, there is absolutely zero reason why Mike Carey's crew should not be the crew in every Super Bowl. They are by far the best in the league.

[cSpooge]

I don't get why people are up in arms over the Jackson PI call... ITS THE RIGHT FING CALL, they just never make the call when they should.

[Displaced Flames fan]

With all the complaining about the officiating...some of which I agree with, some of which I don't.....there are some things Seahawks fans should keep in mind...

At the end of the first half they absolutely **** the bed. They had a chance to go down and score and had the urgency of condemned man on his last walk. Poor play calling and poor clock management. Beyond poor actually. Oh, and they did it again at the end of the game. After Jurevicious' big play Darrell Jackson took about 10 seconds to get back to the line of scrimmage. He'd be off my team tomorrow for that. They looked like they had no idea what to do in both situations. They also missed 2 FG's.

The Seahawks have their selves to blame just as much as the officials. Herndon handed them 7 on a silver platter.....a 14 point swing, and they got exactly nothing out of it.

The Steelers deserved to win the game.

[FlamesKickAss]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Seattle finished with 10 points. The Jackson push off TD would make it 17....so where in the hell do you get the other TD?

I assume that he assumes they would have scored a TD from the 1 before it was called back from the "hold"

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by cSpooge

I don't get why people are up in arms over the Jackson PI call... ITS THE RIGHT FING CALL, they just never make the call when they should.

I agree. There is ZERO way to defend in that situation and that's why it should be pass interference every single time.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss

I assume that he assumes they would have scored a TD from the 1 before it was called back from the "hold"

Hmmm. I wonder, then, why he doesn't assume the Steelers would have scored on 4th and goal from the one inch line after Roethlesberger's no TD?

[browna]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Seattle finished with 10 points. The Jackson push off TD would make it 17....so where in the hell do you get the other TD?

My bad...21-17.
4 points more on the Jackson TD
4 less Steelers points when PIT should've been 4th and goal and likely kicked a FG.
7 points when Stevens catches the ball at the 2 and the phantom hold gets called against the end.

Not sure of the big deal at the end of the first. Ok, they would've likely gotten another FG if they didn't botch up the clock, but a TD was likely not in the cards, and the Seahakws lost by more then that missed FG attempt and the end of the first.

If you want to really count the Seahawks scrambling in panic mode with less then a minute to go, 80 yds to go, needing two scores and 1 T.O. as "botching" the end of the game, so be it, but by that time the game was already handed to the Steelers.

The two FG's missed were 50+ yds..one or both pushed back again due to some questionalbe calls

Re Jackson PI call: Before Jackson "pushed" (with 4 fingers) off, his route lead him tight to the Safety...and the Safety grazed Jackson's shoulder with his hand...is that not illegal contact on a receiver, if not full blown PI?

[CaptainCrunch]

Was it just me or did Holmgren not come over to Cowher for the post game handshake, it looked like Cowher was waiting forever and he had a totally disgusted look on his face.

If Holmgren didn't come out for this, its a totally no class move by the Hawks coach.

Personally though I think its great that Cowher won the Superbowl, of all the coaches out there, he has to rank up there for people that deserve to win.

[Displaced Flames fan]

First off, the Steelers would not have kicked a FG on 4th and goal from the 1 inch line. That's crazy talk. No coach would kick a FG from there unless it was tying up or winning in the last couple of minutes of the game.

Secondly, it doesn't matter how many fingers Jackson used. What matters is that he took the defender out of the play. You could see him struggling to overcome the push off and stay with him. That's PI. Grazing a shoulder inadvertently is NOT pass interference. Personally, I think they call defensive PI way too often and offensive (always for push offs) not nearly enough. The key is does it effect the other player's ability to make a play on the ball. If it does, it's PI.

Finally, if it's ok with you for your team to throw WR screens with under a minute to go in a half I have to wonder why. You didn't notice that the next to the last play of the half took over 30 seconds to get off? That's **** poor clock management by anyone's standards. There's 3 plays in there if done correctly. Saying a TD wasn't in the cards is just excuse making. They had an opportunity and ****ed it away. At the very least, they should've been able to get a better FG attempted. And at the end of the game, out of hand or not, if my players quit on me in the Super Bowl I get ****ed. Why don't you?

[browna]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

First off, the Steelers would not have kicked a FG on 4th and goal from the 1 inch line. That's crazy talk. No coach would kick a FG from there unless it was tying up or winning in the last couple of minutes of the game.

Secondly, it doesn't matter how many fingers Jackson used. What matters is that he took the defender out of the play. You could see him struggling to overcome the push off and stay with him. That's PI. Grazing a shoulder inadvertently is NOT pass interference. Personally, I think they call defensive PI way too often and offensive (always for push offs) not nearly enough. The key is does it effect the other player's ability to make a play on the ball. If it does, it's PI.

Finally, if it's ok with you for your team to throw WR screens with under a minute to go in a half I have to wonder why. You didn't notice that the next to the last play of the half took over 30 seconds to get off? That's **** poor clock management by anyone's standards. There's 3 plays in there if done correctly. Saying a TD wasn't in the cards is just excuse making. They had an opportunity and ****ed it away. At the very least, they should've been able to get a better FG attempted. And at the end of the game, out of hand or not, if my players quit on me in the Super Bowl I get ****ed. Why don't you?

Anything could've happened on 4th down. The way the Steelers were going, taking those 3 points would've likely been satisafactory at that point. They weren't moving the ball well at all up until that drive, and even when they got down there, they had gained 3 yards on the 3 plays.

Regardless, the linesman and referee decided to make those "what if's" on 4th down moot, embarassingly incorrectly.

As I said on the Jackson, that could/should (if Jackson's touching was a call)/has been called illegal contact on an eligible reciever 5yds past the LOS, or holding, not full blow PI. If he didn't make the catch the penalty would've been 5 yds + a first down. Since he did make the catch, the penalties would then wash.

You can't honestly tell me that you've seen more blatant offensive PI calls not called, plus, you also can't tell me that you haven't ever seen the little rub the Steeler safety gave him never called either.

End of the game? The Seahawks went 80 yards in under 2 minutes, and have several attempts at the endzone...I hardly call that the Seahawks giving up.

[Eken9]

I don't even watch Football all that often and only manage to catch the superbowl every year. This game was so one-sided it was bs, what an embrassment by the NFL. The first touchdown by the pittsburg was a bs wrong call, you can clearly see the ball is not even over the line and they award the td anyways.

Also that push off call on the seahawks was bs when he caught the ball in the end zone. The way the pittsburg player reacted to the "push off" was equivalent to an NHL dive.

And I thought the NHL had bad calls wow.

[transplant99]

A couple iffy calls no doubt, but thats not anything new in any sport.

The Hawks shot themselves in the foot, and have no one else to blame.

Seems they agree...
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"We just didn't execute the way we were used to executing all year long," Engram said. "Give Pittsburgh credit. They played hard. They played well enough to win this football game. I just felt like we made some uncharacteristic mistakes."


"We're not going to blame this game on anyone but ourselves," defensive end Grant Wistrom said.

At any rate, it was not the best Super Bowl ever, but wasnt as bad as many others. Still wish Seattle had won.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Seattle finished with 10 points. The Jackson push off TD would make it 17....so where in the hell do you get the other TD?

Actually that TD would have made it 14, not 17. Seattle got a field goal out of that drive.

The pushoff move was a bad call, but I think Rothlesswhatever did break the plane of the goal line on his TD.

Either way, Given Hasselbeck's incredibly poor time management to end both halves - ESPECIALLY at the end of the game, Seattle did not deserve to win. What the hell are you doing attempting (and failing) 7 yard passes down by two TDs with less than a minute to go?

Seattle = not clutch.

[JBR]

Steelers = Stealers

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by Eken9

I don't even watch Football all that often and only manage to catch the superbowl every year. This game was so one-sided it was bs, what an embrassment by the NFL. The first touchdown by the pittsburg was a bs wrong call, you can clearly see the ball is not even over the line and they award the td anyways.

Also that push off call on the seahawks was bs when he caught the ball in the end zone. The way the pittsburg player reacted to the "push off" was equivalent to an NHL dive.

And I thought the NHL had bad calls wow.

they ball doesn't have to go over the line it just has to break the plane of the front of the goal line. From the replay it was freaking close but i couldn't tell which is prolli why they said it was a TD (call on the field).