I can't help but think there is some irony in pointing out the actions of terrorist organizations in some countries when a religious state has been bulldozing peoples' homes and another state where nobody gets elected unless they're Christian and people make a big deal out of the head of state not thanking god on tv has actually invaded another country without justification.
Things must look so different from the other side.
Is it perfect? No. Do the christians and Jews have a better grasp on how to run a society? Absolutely. If you disagree that much, go live in Iran. Or Iraq. Or Syria. Or jordan. Or Lebanon. Or egypt.
Oh wait, those are all horrible, ####ty places to live and you wouldnt live there unless a brigade of marines was sitting between your front yard and the actual population of those countries.
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Someone has been drinking too much coffee. All the post you quoted is doing is pointing out the hypocrisy that is pretty endemic, here, ( here being the western world) particularly within the right wing Christian and Jewish element within the major political organisations.
Someone has been drinking too much coffee. All the post you quoted is doing is pointing out the hypocrisy that is pretty endemic, here, ( here being the western world) particularly within the right wing Christian and Jewish element within the major political organisations.
Hypocracy is almost, now (currently), a leftwingnut monopoly. And endemic. It is IRONIC that Liberals would point out the control of Conservative Jew and Gentiles when....
Jew in the US are typically Progressive/Democratic/Liberal. Catholics tend to be the same. Muslims are full on Conservative, maybe not voting because they know their useful idiots, but in every other way they are.
Hell Ron Paul is the probably one of biggest hypocritical pieces of work in the making.
EDIT: This is not saying that Conservatives are above hypocrisy. Newt is the current biggest. Mulroney's government back in the day is another example. Needless to say hypocrisy is not a Liberal or conservative ONLY vice.
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Hypocracy is almost, now (currently), a leftwingnut monopoly. And endemic. It is IRONIC that Liberals would point out the control of Conservative Jew and Gentiles when....
Jew in the US are typically Progressive/Democratic/Liberal. Catholics tend to be the same. Muslims are full on Conservative, maybe not voting because they know their useful idiots, but in every other way they are.
Hell Ron Paul is the probably one of biggest hypocritical pieces of work in the making.
EDIT: This is not saying that Conservatives are above hypocrisy. Newt is the current biggest. Mulroney's government back in the day is another example. Needless to say hypocrisy is not a Liberal or conservative ONLY vice.
So your in favor of a regime like Iran possessing them?
First and foremost nukes are only a deterrent if your the USA, they are the only reason none have gone off since other country's developed them. But putting them in the hands of Iran would be like having them on the open market for every terrorist group on the planet.
Don't be surprised or shocked when Iran's nuclear facilities are flattened by stealth bombers. there's zero chance the UN will allow them nukes.
Once you have nuclear materials the rest of the bomb making is fairly straight forward if not precise, most of the calculations and everything for example that the manhatten project did in designing a bomb is pretty much available in college textbooks and probably online.
Plus the waste products that come from refining nuclear materials is fairly toxic, it wouldn't take much for Iran to hand out this product to be used in a conventional bomb or dirty bomb.
Basically Iran can't be trusted with a nuclear weapons program nut neccessairly because they'd build a multistage nuclear device and nuke Israel on a whim (But who knows with those psycho.
but because
1) As a nuclear power they would use that hammer in every negotation in that region
2) If Iran gets the bomb you'll see every nation in the middle east scrambling to start up a nuclear program to either deter Iran, or because Iran showed that a modest country can do it fairly quickly.
3) Iran has links with terrorist groups they provide weapons, material support, funds and training and there is a religious slant to those terrorist groups that matches with the hardliners in their revolutionary council
Japan for example started to debate the construction of nuclear weapons as did South Korea when North Korea detonated their first test bomb, the only reason why it didn't happen was because the first two detonations were fizzles and North Korea pretty much shut down their weapons program in exchange for food and aid. Iran doesn't have that problem, there are no leverage points that you can use against them.
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Before Obama took office it was all roses and sunshine, the world was living in harmony
I'm terribly dissapointed in Obama, but I'm not delusional to pin the blame all on him, he walked into a economic depression only 2nd place to the great depression and a ton of the damage he inherited came from Bush and Clinton's policies.
Its too bad McCain didn't win, so this brutal recession was on the Republican's watch and they could be the ones to suffer for it, considering Bush contributed so much to the US's current woes.
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I don't think that Obama has at best done much to make those situations better and in some cases he made them worse.
Sure, but lets not kid ourselves.
The grown ups took office after Bush, and decided, "Hey lets pay for two huge wars, and put them on the books." and then there was the attempt to deal with the massively failing health care system "We took the insurance companies on, and we failed. The best we could do was slow the debt and force some rules upon the HMO's that benefitted all americans."
Yep horrible horrible decisions.
How a conservative cannot see the fact health care is going to become the biggest threat to the economy in the next few decades is beyond ignorance.
Obama tried to handle it, and walked into a wall of massive self interest.
The irony is the HOZ and his conservatives have no clue just how fked that nation is, and to blame socialist policies is HILARIOUS...
Lets see, destroy unions, export jobs, lower taxes, stop funding social programs and of course anything that has 'government job' attached to it, destroy!!!
This has led to the most pathetic society on earth in the 1st world, you guys are a joke. While the entirety of the western world has universal healthcare, you guys do not. While you guys suffer from income inequality we do not. While you guys suffer wage and vacation inbalance, EU laughs at you.
Oh yeah, EU has lots of economic woes, needs to balance its stuff. But they stand from a superior point to the US. The US is a banana republic. Your conservative ideals are massive failures, because ultimately greed serves only a few at the cost of many.
Its neat you try to ignore that fact, but reality disagrees with you.
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