UBC study finds believers distrust atheists as much as rapists

[valo403]

Originally Posted by photon

By that logic, if I setup experiments to detect gravity, but my experiments fail, that means gravity doesn't exist? Great logic from a supposed scientist.

Evolution, like gravity, is something that is OBSERVED. We know it happens.

The Theory of Evolution, like the theory of gravity, makes explanations and predictions and tries to account for all the observations.

(And the genetic evidence for the theory of evolution explaining the observations is so substantial that it stands by itself even if we didn't have all the other lines of evidence we have)

I think it means you're in space

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by valo403

I think it means you're in space

Gravity exists in space.

Back on topic... god doesn't exist anywhere.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by T@T

Everywhere? Has an Atheist ever knocked on your door trying to spread his "word"? Do we have huge meeting places paid for by dummy's? NO, fact is most Atheists keep to themselfs until provoked.

You forgot to mention that nasty little habit atheists have of lawyering up to stop Christian expression in public spaces. There right there is the reason christians have such a low opinion of you all. We don't see that from Muslims or Hindus here in North America. They might petition the government to include their own religious expression but, not to silence mine

Originally Posted by T@T

Are people straight at birth? Did you come out of the womb and look at that hot little redheaded nurse and think that someday you'll tap that?

Children are not sexual beings. They niether understand nor desire sexual intimacy. Curiosity begins as a child grows but, curiosity of everything is natural in children. Enviromental exposure to sexual images and conversation increases curiosity. Children also desire to mimic what adult peers around them do.

At the beginning of puberty physical desire is added to that natural curiosity which has been building through experiences. What experiences or circumstances causes a young man or women to see their same sex or a dog or a young child as a means to relieve that physical desire, I don't know. But I do know that everything we desire is not healthy or good for us.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

What experiences or circumstances causes a young man or women to see their same sex or a dog or a young child as a means to relieve that physical desire, I don't know. But I do know that everything we desire is not healthy or good for us.

Haha! You're really pulling out every tired cliche in the homophobe book. Care to enlighten us all as to why homosexuality is "not healthy or good for us"?

[MarchHare]

You forgot to mention that nasty little habit atheists have of lawyering up to stop Christian expression in public spaces. There right there is the reason christians have such a low opinion of you all. We don't see that from Muslims or Hindus here in North America. They might petition the government to include their own religious expression but, not to silence mine

How DARE those rotten atheists demand that the secular government obey its own laws and not promote or endorse any particular set of religious beliefs. Where do they get the nerve? They're just as bad as rapists.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Gravity exists in space.

Back on topic... god doesn't exist anywhere.

Well I guess I won't be hearing back from NASA about that job application

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

You forgot to mention that nasty little habit atheists have of lawyering up to stop Christian expression in public spaces. There right there is the reason christians have such a low opinion of you all. We don't see that from Muslims or Hindus here in North America. They might petition the government to include their own religious expression but, not to silence mine

I'm not sure what incidents you're speaking of, but private religious expression is not prohibited by law, no matter how lawyered up you get. State sponsored expression is a different story.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

You forgot to mention that nasty little habit atheists have of lawyering up to stop Christian expression in public spaces.

Could you provide an example? I'm hard pressed to think of a public place that precludes a Christian from expressing themselves. For example - it's perfectly legitimate for a Christian (or any other religion) to pray in a public school. You just have to do it on your own time in your own space - and not inflict it on any of my kids.

So, I'd like to see your statement quantified a little.

But I do know that everything we desire is not healthy or good for us.

Like a belief in the afterlife? Which encourages people to put off living because the promise of eternal relief later?

Going back to the thread title - no rational adult would trust a rapist over an atheist. Every statement made after that point is sheer lunacy.

[MarchHare]

BTW, Calgaryborn, why exactly do you want to see religious iconography placed in government buildings or on public property? Nobody is forcing Christians to dismantle nativity scenes on private property or church land (if they are, I'll be right there with you defending the rights of Christians to peacefully practice their religion), so what difference does it make to you if the government specifically endorses and/or promotes your faith or not?

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Could you provide an example? I'm hard pressed to think of a public place that precludes a Christian from expressing themselves. For example - it's perfectly legitimate for a Christian (or any other religion) to pray in a public school. You just have to do it on your own time in your own space - and not inflict it on any of my kids.

So, I'd like to see your statement quantified a little.

Here is a real time example:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...08/detail.html

You should also recall some of these stories:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/8014416.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nged-life.html

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ce...rtrules-47762/

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Here is a real time example:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...08/detail.html

Students Suspended For Tebowing

Two New York high school athletes have been flagged with a penalty for paying tribute to Tebow.

Twin brothers, Connor and Tyler Carroll, got students together at Riverhead High School to "tebow" in between classes. Tebowing is to get down on a knee and start praying, even if everyone else around you is doing something completely different.

The brothers said they and their friends did this demonstration in the hall at school in between classes on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

On Wednesday, the boys were suspended for one day because school officials said the Tebow tribute posed a safety hazard by blocking others from getting to class.

This?? You have got to be kidding.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Here is a real time example:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...08/detail.html

You should also recall some of these stories:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/8014416.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nged-life.html

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ce...rtrules-47762/

Here is a story about crosses being erected along public highways to remember fallen officers in Utah. They were paid for and errected with private money. The families of the officers had been asked and were in favour of the remembrance:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/18...osses-highway/

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Here is a story about crosses being erected along public highways to remember fallen officers in Utah. They were paid for and errected with private money. The families of the officers had been asked and were in favour of the remembrance:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/18...osses-highway/

PUBLIC HIGHWAYS

Nobody would have anything to complain about if the memorials were placed on private land.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Here is a real time example:


http://www.christianpost.com/news/ce...rtrules-47762/

Oh yeah, and in this one, it was the religious person who "lawyered up" and had their right to freedom of expression quite rightly protected by the Supreme Court. Care to try again?

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Makarov

This?? You have got to be kidding.

Yah teenagers loitering in a hallway! Good thing they didn't get suspended for a week!

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Here is a real time example:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...08/detail.html

You should also recall some of these stories:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/8014416.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nged-life.html

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ce...rtrules-47762/

Just to sum up, not one of these links are stories where a big nasty atheist lawyered up. One of them (the "tebowing" one) has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism. One of them is an example of a religious person "lawyering up" to protect her right to freedom of expression. The other two are just stupid (and apparently unconstitutional) decisions by American school boards.

And from these examples, you draw the conclusion that Christians in Canada are persecuted by athesits and their Godless lawyers.

Yikes.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Oh yeah, and in this one, it was the religious person who "lawyered up" and had their right to freedom of expression quite rightly protected by the Supreme Court. Care to try again?

The Christian had to lawyer up because his/her religious expression had been denied.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Yah teenagers loitering in a hallway! Good thing they didn't get suspended for a week!

And what does it have to do with atheism? Or religion for that matter (as "tebowing" appears to be a tribute/mocking of a football star, not a religion)?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

The Christian had to lawyer up because his/her religious expression had been denied.

Yes. What does that have to do with your orginal claim (which this was cited as support for)? No lobbying by atheist groups lead to the original decision of the school board (from what I could tell).

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Here is a story about crosses being erected along public highways to remember fallen officers in Utah. They were paid for and errected with private money. The families of the officers had been asked and were in favour of the remembrance:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/18...osses-highway/

A three-judge panel from Denver's 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in its 38-page ruling that a "reasonable observer" would conclude that the state and the Utah Highway Patrol were endorsing Christianity with the cross memorials.

would you prefer that the court rule against the constitution?