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Old 12-05-2011, 03:10 PM   #801
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Those "great offenses" did well last year in the Title game vs the SEC, and in 09 vs Texas, and that record setting OU offense looked amazing in 08. How about that great oregon offense vs the SEC defense this year?
Even if they try and fail I'd rather see that and have the SEC prove a point then watch another 9-6 game.
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It's not going to be another 9-6 game. I think people tend to just see the final score and say it's boring but we can watch a 3-2 hockey game and say that was a good game. You know three scores for one team and two for the the other.

People look at the score and say it was boring but it was the most viewed game this year. Also they managed to move the ball well until they got inside the 30 yard line. Also in a game like that, one turnover or big play will win the game.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:45 PM   #803
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It's not going to be another 9-6 game. I think people tend to just see the final score and say it's boring but we can watch a 3-2 hockey game and say that was a good game. You know three scores for one team and two for the the other.

People look at the score and say it was boring but it was the most viewed game this year. Also they managed to move the ball well until they got inside the 30 yard line. Also in a game like that, one turnover or big play will win the game.
It was most viewed because it was most hyped. Was probably not the best game of the year to watch or more people would be excited by the rematch. There are great low scoring games. I just didn't think this was one of them. That's also not my point of playing someone else as opposed to the rematch. I wouldn't care if it was 50-49 LSU the first time. You beat Bama, there's some other good one loss teams that think they can play with the big boys of the SEC so beat one of them to prove it. That's all I'm saying, just would like to see them play someone else. This is my opinion. We live in a world of the BCS and have to go with what they decide. I will watch the game because I love football, there's some damn good players on either team and it's the championship game.
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To me there are another good one loss teams, but Bama has a stronger case for the number 2 slot than they do. OSU is the only one close, and their loss was to way too weak of an opponent for me to give them the edge. I don't care that it was on the road (and don't give me the women's basketball coaches excuse, I guarantee you most of that team had never even met them, let alone knew them well enough to be so thrown off that they couldn't perform), they were playing a team that is going to a bowl game in Yankee stadium and lost.
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I don't disagree, but you're conveniently forgetting that there's more to an at large berth than your record.
I know there and that's why it's still baffling. Virginia Tech isn't exactly a great TV draw. They will travel well, but Boise St has traveled as good as anyone in their 2 BCS Bowl appearances.

It just seems like they took the much weaker team without gaining anything on the business side. Some writers on twitter have suggested that it's a shot at the MWC as their commissioner took some pretty good shots at the BCS this year. Put Boise in their game and they're handing that conference ~$10mil.
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I don't want a playoff but I would support a system where Bama plays OSU in the sugar bowl and then plays LSU the next week for the title. This should only be implemented in situations like this years.

As for Boise State, I'm so tired of hearing their garbage. Don't lose to TCU and you would probably be in the title game. They lost to TCU and they have only themselves to blame.

Most arguments that I hear is they will play anyone anytime:

Right, you know like when they tried to schedule a home and home with Nebraska, and wanted to be paid to go to Lincoln, but wanted NU to come back for free the next year. If you want to be treated like a big boy then act like one.

BSU: we beat UGA, Oregon ect...

Yes you did and congrats on that. However I would love for you guys to play someone in the middle of your season where you don't have 30 days to prepare for them and pull every trick out of the book to win, tie that in with injuries and they wouldn't make it.

I'm sorry, BSU is a good team, and I wanted them to be in the title game so LSU can wax their asses back to the D1AA days in Boise.
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I don't want a playoff but I would support a system where Bama plays OSU in the sugar bowl and then plays LSU the next week for the title. This should only be implemented in situations like this years.

As for Boise State, I'm so tired of hearing their garbage. Don't lose to TCU and you would probably be in the title game. They lost to TCU and they have only themselves to blame.

Most arguments that I hear is they will play anyone anytime:

Right, you know like when they tried to schedule a home and home with Nebraska, and wanted to be paid to go to Lincoln, but wanted NU to come back for free the next year. If you want to be treated like a big boy then act like one.

BSU: we beat UGA, Oregon ect...

Yes you did and congrats on that. However I would love for you guys to play someone in the middle of your season where you don't have 30 days to prepare for them and pull every trick out of the book to win, tie that in with injuries and they wouldn't make it.

I'm sorry, BSU is a good team, and I wanted them to be in the title game so LSU can wax their asses back to the D1AA days in Boise.
Thank you (the button wasn't enough of a thanks).

BSU rides these one off wins as if they make a season when the fact of the matter is they don't face any of the grind that separates a elite team from a good team. Play 4 ranked teams in a row, 2 of them on the road, and then talk.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:32 PM   #808
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I don't want a playoff but I would support a system where Bama plays OSU in the sugar bowl and then plays LSU the next week for the title. This should only be implemented in situations like this years.

As for Boise State, I'm so tired of hearing their garbage. Don't lose to TCU and you would probably be in the title game. They lost to TCU and they have only themselves to blame.

Most arguments that I hear is they will play anyone anytime:

Right, you know like when they tried to schedule a home and home with Nebraska, and wanted to be paid to go to Lincoln, but wanted NU to come back for free the next year. If you want to be treated like a big boy then act like one.

BSU: we beat UGA, Oregon ect...

Yes you did and congrats on that. However I would love for you guys to play someone in the middle of your season where you don't have 30 days to prepare for them and pull every trick out of the book to win, tie that in with injuries and they wouldn't make it.

I'm sorry, BSU is a good team, and I wanted them to be in the title game so LSU can wax their asses back to the D1AA days in Boise.
Yet Bama loses to the #1 team and they get another shot when it is rightfully OSU's shot. Saban listed them at 4? Riiiight. SEC keep it classy.
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Yet Bama loses to the #1 team and they get another shot when it is rightfully OSU's shot. Saban listed them at 4? Riiiight. SEC keep it classy.
Except it's not "rightfully" their shot, because they lost to a team that wouldn't even be Bowl Eligible if OSU hadn't lost to them.
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Yet Bama loses to the #1 team and they get another shot when it is rightfully OSU's shot. Saban listed them at 4? Riiiight. SEC keep it classy.
Rightfully theirs? Seriously? I suppose you're calling for UM to decline their BCS bowl invite over teams for the Big Ten who actually won their division too right?

For the third time, OSU lost to a team that is playing in f'in Yankee Stadium for their bowl. The Pinstripe Bowl. Bama lost to the best team in the country. There are plenty of legitimate arguments for OSU, the need to win your conference, the lack of desire to see a rematch etc. Saying the spot is "rightfully" there's isn't one of them.

Edit: there's? I need more coffee

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Rightfully there's? Seriously? I suppose you're calling for UM to decline their BCS bowl invite over teams for the Big Ten who actually won their division too right?

For the third time, OSU lost to a team that is playing in f'in Yankee Stadium for their bowl. The Pinstripe Bowl. Bama lost to the best team in the country. There are plenty of legitimate arguments for OSU, the need to win your conference, the lack of desire to see a rematch etc. Saying the spot is "rightfully" there's isn't one of them.
There's no "rightfully" anyones shot to this game, it's poll based which means there's always going to be controversy. Probably won't be the last time multiple 1 loss or 0 loss teams are arguing who's better. Bama was fantastic this year, not in any close games except the LSU game. I don't think anyone will dispute that. OSU beat a number of good teams as well, and put up the 2nd most points in college football this year. They had a bad loss and they know this cost them. UNLESS THEY PLAY you can only argue that Bama is better the OSU. I'm glad OSU's coach is already not talking about this anymore and focussing on Stanford because that could be a great game as well.
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Those "great offenses" did well last year in the Title game vs the SEC, and in 09 vs Texas, and that record setting OU offense looked amazing in 08. How about that great oregon offense vs the SEC defense this year?
Actually considering how bad Garret Gilbert is I would say putting 21 pts up against a vaunted defense was quite the showing. Who knows what McCoy would have done?
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It's not going to be another 9-6 game. I think people tend to just see the final score and say it's boring but we can watch a 3-2 hockey game and say that was a good game. You know three scores for one team and two for the the other.

People look at the score and say it was boring but it was the most viewed game this year. Also they managed to move the ball well until they got inside the 30 yard line. Also in a game like that, one turnover or big play will win the game.
It was the #1 vs. #2 team of course it was the most viewed. I don't mind defensive games, but that game was just ugly football. That being said I don't see a repeat of it.

I just don't want any SEC fans to say they are the best conference because they didn't beat the best non-SEC team, and the conference was not that impressive save the top 3. Saban putting OSU #4 what a dick.

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What Bama fans try to forget is that OSU had a higher SOS. Oh well, I think it's going to be a hell of a game and hope that LSU pulls off a victory.

I laughed when "Saban" voted them #4 simply because most coaches don't actually vote, but hand it to the assistant to do for them.

Even if it were Saban that voted, this is coming from the guy that over signs every year and cuts players that don't make the two deep in their sophomore year. He will force kids out on medical scholarships or other ways. It's well documented that he has done this. Most colleges honor the scholarship for four years unless they dont make grades, or break the law. Fact is that the scholarship is only a one year deal but it's just not ethical for someone to do that.

But that's just Saban..... (Dbag)
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What Bama fans try to forget is that OSU had a higher SOS. Oh well, I think it's going to be a hell of a game and hope that LSU pulls off a victory.

I laughed when "Saban" voted them #4 simply because most coaches don't actually vote, but hand it to the assistant to do for them.

Even if it were Saban that voted, this is coming from the guy that over signs every year and cuts players that don't make the two deep in their sophomore year. He will force kids out on medical scholarships or other ways. It's well documented that he has done this. Most colleges honor the scholarship for four years unless they dont make grades, or break the law. Fact is that the scholarship is only a one year deal but it's just not ethical for someone to do that.

But that's just Saban..... (Dbag)
You do know that all 12 SEC coaches, including Florida, voted to keep oversigning right?
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Hard not to be excited about this guy... Best running back in the country and is by all accounts a superb human being.

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Hard not to be excited about this guy... Best running back in the country and is by all accounts a superb human being.

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Looks good, although it's impossible to tell how they'll do at the next level.
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Looks good, although it's impossible to tell how they'll do at the next level.
True. I just like the fact that he's visiting cancer patients in the hospital and doing other community service and he's still in high school. Even if this kid can't compete at the next level I have no doubt he'll make something of himself. With him coming in and Malcolm Brown and Joe Bergeron already here, I wonder if we can package one of them for a qb . Texas' season next year might depend on how good incoming qb Connor Brewer is, because I don't think anyone there now has the ability to bring us back to contention.
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