What is going on in the community of Temple?

[North East Goon]

These N.E. communities will one day re-gain pride in themselves, due to the proximity of them to the downtown core. Remember when Renfrew etc. was crap holes? The communities I would be worried about are the further out/isolated communites like deep S.E. and the "supposed" good side of the N.E. in harvest hills,panaroma etc. Tons of kids being raised in these communites, who will all be teenagers someday!

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Cluelessboy

Have you ever been to Panorama Hills before? This entire area is nice, we have so much around here its not even funny.

Yeah, if you need weapons, ammo or drugs, you're likely only a few houses away.

Oh, and you spelled Newtemple Hills wrong....

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Yeah, if you need weapons, ammo or drugs, you're likely only a few houses away.

Oh, and you spelled Newtemple Hills wrong....

I like how in Newtemple Hills all the growops look alike and are built so close to each other.

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

I like how in Newtemple Hills all the growops look alike and are built so close to each other.

At least in Temple you can stagger to the hospital if you get stabbed / shot...
It's within walking distance!

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

These N.E. communities will one day re-gain pride in themselves, due to the proximity of them to the downtown core. Remember when Renfrew etc. was crap holes? The communities I would be worried about are the further out/isolated communites like deep S.E. and the "supposed" good side of the N.E. in harvest hills,panaroma etc. Tons of kids being raised in these communites, who will all be teenagers someday!

I moved from Renfrew to Pineridge in the 80s so I feel well qualified to identify the problem.

It's those damn Sibernicaraguans.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by shermanator

At least in Temple you can stagger to the hospital if you get stabbed / shot...
It's within walking distance!

No it's not. But that would be a good selling point for Realtor1.

[Northendzone]

this temple place sounds much worse than new brighton - whihc is the most dangerous place in the SE......

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

this temple place sounds much worse than new brighton - whihc is the most dangerous place in the SE......

Please.

I grew up in Dover/Forest Lawn, there is no way that New Brighton even comes close.

Grow-ops or not.

[THE SCUD]

Applewood, up to no good!

[bomber317]

Yikes

I grew up in

Forest Lawn
Falconridge
Monterey Park

then moved out to the

Beltline then Panorama.

I must be a badass gangster that made it out and now owns a grow op in the "Temple" of the NW.

[First Lady]

Communities go through cycles and from what I've seen the level of desirability goes in ripples outward.

For example, Whitehorn used to be not bad, then they built Castleridge and that became the "better" area, then Martindale, etc. etc.

I think two things that contribute to this is, kids getting older and home owners moving to a new area, but retaining the property as a rental.

Older areas are not immune. I live in Highland Park and I think we are just starting down the other side of the being a "hood" to becoming a "community" again.

I like this little gadget. http://crimemap.calgarypolice.ca/con...aimerPage.aspx

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I like this little gadget. http://crimemap.calgarypolice.ca/con...aimerPage.aspx

In the last 6 months, total "violations":

Forest Lawn - 320
Penbrook Meadows - 207
Marlborough - 451
Marlborough Park - 209
Rundle - 257
Pineridge - 240
Whitehorn - 212
Temple - 196
Castleridge - 139
Falconridge - 226

Panorama Hills - 129

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Please.

I grew up in Dover/Forest Lawn, there is no way that New Brighton even comes close.

Grow-ops or not.

Born and raised in Forest Lawn. Still here, got a couple rental properties close by and have never had any problems except for one garage break-in.

I would never even consider moving to the newer developments or really anywhere else in the city. My backyard takes up half a block literally. You could fit 6 of the newer homes on the lot my 1200 sq ft house is on. I feel at home here and I just could not imagine my house being 3 feet from my neighbors.

People who live in Forest Lawn are not forced to live here, but they live here because it's a great neighborhood. I know several people who make enough money to live anywhere they want in the city but decide to live in Forest Lawn because it's a great place to live.

The point of my post is Forest Lawn is not as bad as people make it out to be, and you probably know this as well from living here.

[puckluck]

And another point I wanna make is do you guys think it is a coincidence Forest Lawn has high crime rate?

Do you guys not realize the government dumped several hundred refugees and immigrants into Forest Lawn and Dover over 40 years ago and it's still happening today? I recieve monthly cheques from the government to pay for my tenants who are refugees...not a coincidence.

And this isn't a thing that just started 5 years ago, it started over 35 years ago and is still happening today.

Anytime there is a war in another country and Canada brings in immigrants to Calgary to save them from war where do you think they dump them? Forest Lawn and Dover that's where. There is a huge problem in Edmonton right now in certain neighborhoods with black refugess...is it a coincidence they mostly all live in the same neighborhood?

The only reason I am here is because Canada brought my dad and mom here from Lebanon over 30+ years ago. Now some people like my dad worked hard started a business and succeeded here while others ran into huge culture shock and couldn't fit in and had to resort to crime to make a living.

Not blaming the government because frankly they should be applauded for the help they give people in war torn countries, but just my perspective onto why these neighborhoods are having problems and will continue to have problems.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Panorama Hills - 129

Lets compare that to other neighborhoods in the middle of nowhere that aren't crime ridden hell holes:

Rocky Ridge- 55
Royal Oak- 78
Tuscany- 88
Valley Ridge- 39
Auburn Bay- 47
Copperfield- 62
New Brighton- 35

And just for fun, my inner-city ghetto:

Bridgeland- 116




Panorama is more comparable to the beauty that is:
Taradale- 164.

[puckluck]

Now I feel like the VANFLAMESFAN of Forest Lawn.

[Nammer403]

Montery park at 100 in the last six months

[GoFlamesGo89]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

In the last 6 months, total "violations":

Forest Lawn - 320
Penbrook Meadows - 207
Marlborough - 451
Marlborough Park - 209
Rundle - 257
Pineridge - 240
Whitehorn - 212
Temple - 196
Castleridge - 139
Falconridge - 226

Panorama Hills - 129

Firstly, I grew up in Temple, spent 23 years in the same house, and had exactly 0 crime incidents. If you want to be a global citizen, it was a good place to learn about cultures as my friends were from all over the globe. My child is now growing up in a predominantly white area, and I really feel badly for him and will work hard to ensure that he develops a cultural sensitivity which is severely lacking in this thread. While many of you mock the NE, in an era of global uncertainty and shifting political landscapes, you might be surprised at just how useful such a background might be if your definition of success moves beyond transient metrics brought about by the anomalous economic situation spurred by oil and gas. Many of my minority friends in Temple have gone on to do amazing things with their lives, be it professors, doctors, accountants, bankers, film makers, in several cases via Ivy League schools. Incidentally expanding a bit further, our mayor would be one of those, as I believe he grew up in Marlborough. Sure, these may be exceptions to the rule, but I would argue that in many cases (including my own) success is fostered by adversity.

Secondly, these numbers are meaningless without correcting for population, so the only ones that can really be compared are similar sized areas with equivalent density (such as Whitehorn, Temple, Rundle, and Pineridge). Temple actually does pretty well compared to the rest of its peer-neighbourhoods, so clearly the string of incidents reported by the OP is likely a statistical aberration.

Thirdly, population density and rental properties do make a difference in these metrics, and while I don't know what the exact distributions are, I would guess that the properties and similar areas do have higher density and more rentals. I think Calgary would be a much better place if this was the same throughout the city, however too many of the 'not in my backyard types' are little bit too sensitive and xenophobic for this to their detriment.

I don't get irritated by a lot of threads, but it would be nice if statements and conclusions were once in a while justified on actual quantitative data.

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[Rathji]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Born and raised in Forest Lawn. Still here, got a couple rental properties close by and have never had any problems except for one garage break-in.

I would never even consider moving to the newer developments or really anywhere else in the city. My backyard takes up half a block literally. You could fit 6 of the newer homes on the lot my 1200 sq ft house is on. I feel at home here and I just could not imagine my house being 3 feet from my neighbors.

People who live in Forest Lawn are not forced to live here, but they live here because it's a great neighborhood. I know several people who make enough money to live anywhere they want in the city but decide to live in Forest Lawn because it's a great place to live.

The point of my post is Forest Lawn is not as bad as people make it out to be, and you probably know this as well from living here.

Of course, and my point is that New Brighton is all soccer moms and toddlers compared to what happens in Forest Lawn, even if it isn't that bad there.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Of course, and my point is that New Brighton is all soccer moms and toddlers compared to what happens in Forest Lawn, even if it isn't that bad there.

Honestly, I'd rather live in Temple or a like neighborhood than be surrounded by soccer moms.

Unless they put out.