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Old 11-18-2011, 03:31 PM   #901
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I like that you equate this to a snowstorm as if it's an accepted part of life. You really don't seem to get it.
I was illustrating that I tend to adjust to things easily without much complaint. Seriously valo, stop the witch hunt.
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I am pretty sure woob is one of the "english major history masters $200K in debt and I work at a McD's for $30K a year why do I have all this student loan debt society owes me free education" types.
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I'm not sure if Olbermann has been brewing a dislike for Bloomberg for sometime, as it seems like that during parts of this, but it got a few chuckles from me.

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i am pretty sure woob is one of the "english major history masters $200k in debt and i work at a mcd's for $30k a year why do i have all this student loan debt society owes me free education" types.
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That Olbermann piece was fun to watch, although he does bring up a good point about shutting down roads. Do people gripe about infrastructure jams and inconveniences when it's a Hollywood studio shutting down the Brooklyn Bridge to film? Or do they gripe more when protesters take over Brooklyn Bridge causing the same inconveniences to commuters? I'm going to guess the level of frustration is compounded when it's 'smelly hippies' doing it, and for the City (New York in this example), it's much less of an inconvenience if they're making some bucks off it somehow, even though commuters suffer the same headaches.

Entertaining nonetheless
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That Olbermann piece was fun to watch, although he does bring up a good point about shutting down roads. Do people gripe about infrastructure jams and inconveniences when it's a Hollywood studio shutting down the Brooklyn Bridge to film? Or do they gripe more when protesters take over Brooklyn Bridge causing the same inconveniences to commuters? I'm going to guess the level of frustration is compounded when it's 'smelly hippies' doing it, and for the City (New York in this example), it's much less of an inconvenience if they're making some bucks off it somehow, even though commuters suffer the same headaches.

Entertaining nonetheless
I don't believe they ever allow filming to completely shut down the Brooklyn bridge at the height of rush hour.

As to people griping about things being closed due to filming, they do it all the time. Talk to any resident of an area that sees a lot of filming, like the west village.
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I was illustrating that I tend to adjust to things easily without much complaint. Seriously valo, stop the witch hunt.
And I was illustrating that there's a difference between adjusting to things that are part and parcel of living in Canada and adjusting to things that are the product of people willfully screwing with your day to day life.
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And I was illustrating that there's a difference between adjusting to things that are part and parcel of living in Canada and adjusting to things that are the product of people willfully screwing with your day to day life.
Of course there's a difference. I'd approach it the same way though. Thanks for clarifying.
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well the judge has ruled the Vancouver Crusties have to get out by Monday, much wailing and gnashing of teeth to follow.
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Ezra Levant did a tour of the occupy Toronto camp and found about 10% of the tents occupied. He went there at 4:00 am with an infrared camera. One does wonder why the city hasn't done the same and removed all the ones that were left empty. I would think if the court doesn't evict them on Monday that that might be a good option.

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=40553

I do think that there has been some wisdom in not moving the police in quickly at these protests. The movement wants to look like victims of overreaching government authority. They've now lost that PR battle and need to be made to limit their protests to legal avenues.
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well the judge has ruled the Vancouver Crusties have to get out by Monday, much wailing and gnashing of teeth to follow.
An Occupy lawyer in the Vancouver situation argued that the tents were "political structures" and were therefore essential to the groups' ability to express its opinion.

The judge said there was no reasonable argument to circumvent the normal city usage bylaws.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2241873/

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...-eviction.html

Occupy Victoria abandons tents and leaves.

Guess its to much work for these people to actually clean up their mess, and they're ok with someone else paying for their cleanup.
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Sorry if this is a repost. I think it's safe to call this a new low in the treatment of occupy-protesters.





http://www.npr.org/2011/11/20/142556...st-at-uc-davis

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Sorry if this is a repost. I think it's safe to call this a new low in the treatment of occupy-protesters.





http://www.npr.org/2011/11/20/142556...st-at-uc-davis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...suspended.html
New low?

I would call that a great breakthrough for the handling of protestors and hopefully the abuse is only increased in the future.

Hopefully others take note and start doing the same or increase the treatment of protestors in other sites.
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Sorry if this is a repost. I think it's safe to call this a new low in the treatment of occupy-protesters.





http://www.npr.org/2011/11/20/142556...st-at-uc-davis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...suspended.html
They had the right to leave...
Either way not going to take that video at face value - I have no idea what presided that - I also don't really care
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New low?

I would call that a great breakthrough for the handling of protestors and hopefully the abuse is only increased in the future.

Hopefully others take note and start doing the same or increase the treatment of protestors in other sites.
The UC Davis event was a shocking and disgusting display of unwarranted and unreasonable brutality on the part of the campus police towards the protesters. The protesters had taken down their tents as requested; they were sitting peacefully, not being violent in action or word. They were not threatening the (campus) police; they were not harming anyone or anything. They were practicing their constitutionally protected right to peaceful demonstration. The campus police, completely unprovoked, and in violation of their own internal policies regarding the use of pepper spray, simply walked up to them and blasted them with pepper spray at point blank range.



I don’t care what your politics are, perhaps you don’t agree with, or understand the occupy movement, and that is fine. But to cheer the deplorable actions of the campus police in this case and to cheer the unwarranted and unprovoked violence and harm perpetrated against other human beings just makes you look like sad. Are you really that committed to your political stance that you can’t see how horrible this was? Do you really feel that people, who are protesting peacefully, a right protected by the founding documents of their countries, should face such extreme punishment? Do you really feel that the police should be able to react with this level of extreme violence even where no laws have been broken?
I would hope that, regardless of their political beliefs, every person could see that the campus police were in the wrong here, and that this was a horrible event.



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