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[SeeBass]

What I think is really sad is that we set the bar at "who pooped where" in order to seperate who is civil.

[woob]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

What I think is really sad is that we set the bar at "who pooped where" in order to seperate who is civil.

Eh?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

What I think is really sad is that we set the bar at "who pooped where" in order to seperate who is civil.

You know what, the last real people who poo'd in public spaces were probably cavemen, or the people of the fine state of alabama.

It does seperate who's civil.

Tell you what, give me your address, and I'll lay a 7 coiler in your driveway, and we'll see if you still think I'm uncivilized.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by woob

Yeah, because all the protesters in OWS behave the same way. You guys must be wading through feces down there! How are you surviving??

Did I say all of them behave the same way? The fact is that people who live in that area are dealing with issues they shouldn't have to deal with.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by woob

Yeah, because all the protesters in OWS behave the same way. You guys must be wading through feces down there! How are you surviving??

It does seem to be a common string of events, I've seen complaints from Toronto, Calgary, Wall Street, Oakland and Vancouver about human feces being laid down.

I wonder if its in their occupy handbook.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

You know what, the last real people who poo'd in public spaces were probably cavemen, or the people of the fine state of alabama.

It does seperate who's civil.

Tell you what, give me your address, and I'll lay a 7 coiler in your driveway, and we'll see if you still think I'm uncivilized.

My point was that they crossed the line long ago but the bar is so low, it stops at pooping.

[woob]

Originally Posted by valo403

Did I say all of them behave the same way?

You're right, my bad.

The fact is that people who live in that area are dealing with issues they shouldn't have to deal with.

You do realize this is a protest/march, right? Generally, protests and marches don't go around and check with local citizens if what they're doing conforms with their idea of proper protesting/marching behaviour. Yes, it's an inconvenience, but it's an unfortunate side effect of a protest/march.

I think that as this continues and more everyday citizens start either expressing their discontent or their support of this movement to their local/national politicians, the more impact we may start seeing this movement making in the areas where impacts need to be made. It can only be 'ignored' for so long. Either that, or like in Calgary, the weather may start taking care of the so called 'problem' for some of the northern most cities in the US.

One thing is for sure though, for me, is I am absolutely fascinated with the whole thing. I don't agree with everything being discussed but still it is captivating to follow. I sat down and watched about 4 hours of that UStream feed the other night and enjoyed seeing the little interviews that Tim did with every kind of person, from supporters, to policemen, to anarchists who were upset with him. It's interesting to see the different walks of life he comes across and their input on the whole event.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by woob

You're right, my bad.



You do realize this is a protest/march, right? Generally, protests and marches don't go around and check with local citizens if what they're doing conforms with their idea of proper protesting/marching behaviour. Yes, it's an inconvenience, but it's an unfortunate side effect of a protest/march.

I think that as this continues and more everyday citizens start either expressing their discontent or their support of this movement to their local/national politicians, the more impact we may start seeing this movement making in the areas where impacts need to be made. It can only be 'ignored' for so long. Either that, or like in Calgary, the weather may start taking care of the so called 'problem' for some of the northern most cities in the US.

One thing is for sure though, for me, is I am absolutely fascinated with the whole thing. I don't agree with everything being discussed but still it is captivating to follow. I sat down and watched about 4 hours of that UStream feed the other night and enjoyed seeing the little interviews that Tim did with every kind of person, from supporters, to policemen, to anarchists who were upset with him. It's interesting to see the different walks of life he comes across and their input on the whole event.

A protest/march and a two month take over are very different things. Residents are dealing with people literally ####ting in their communities.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by woob

You're right, my bad.



You do realize this is a protest/march, right? Generally, protests and marches don't go around and check with local citizens if what they're doing conforms with their idea of proper protesting/marching behaviour. Yes, it's an inconvenience, but it's an unfortunate side effect of a protest/march.

I think that as this continues and more everyday citizens start either expressing their discontent or their support of this movement to their local/national politicians, the more impact we may start seeing this movement making in the areas where impacts need to be made. It can only be 'ignored' for so long. Either that, or like in Calgary, the weather may start taking care of the so called 'problem' for some of the northern most cities in the US.

One thing is for sure though, for me, is I am absolutely fascinated with the whole thing. I don't agree with everything being discussed but still it is captivating to follow. I sat down and watched about 4 hours of that UStream feed the other night and enjoyed seeing the little interviews that Tim did with every kind of person, from supporters, to policemen, to anarchists who were upset with him. It's interesting to see the different walks of life he comes across and their input on the whole event.

I think you're wrong, as public opinion turns against these protestors by people that are actually working and paying taxes etc, the political end will start ignoring the demands and start putting pressure on the removal of these shanty towns. In the end the majority will cheer as their tents are taken away and they're sent packing.


In the end the protestors are starting to be looked at like Charlie Sheen, it was interesting at the start and he made a impact, not in terms of changes to his life etc, but then everyone realized that Sheen was batsh^t crazy and a pathetic figure and he then became boring and he pretty much went away.

Its funny, because now your starting to see a rise in the 53%, who even state that they're not protesting because they're too busy working.

[mikey_the_redneck]

The protests attract drunk/high homeless people for the heat and free food. It is likely they are the ones doing most of the dumping. I think the vast majority of the protestors would make it to a loo if they could.

But don't let that stop people from shi@#ing all over the protestors...

[woob]

Originally Posted by valo403

A protest/march and a two month take over are very different things. Residents are dealing with people literally ####ting in their communities.

With all due respect to those being impacted, if at 2 months in you're still griping about how this movement, which doesn't show signs of going away yet, is still impacting your day to day life, you need to get over it.

It's kind of like the 2 weeks or so that those living on 17th had to put up with the crowds after Flames games making noise and carrying on late in the evenings in 2004. A buddy had an apartment on 17th and was super annoyed by it (yes, I said boohoo to him too) the first few times, but then he said he just adjusted to it as he knew it would keep going on until the run was done.

And yes, I realize a 2 week hockey run with games not running every night, people not crapping in their neighbourhood, and such is different, but the concept is the same when it comes to adjusting your life until it is finished.

[woob]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think you're wrong, as public opinion turns against these protestors by people that are actually working and paying taxes etc, the political end will start ignoring the demands and start putting pressure on the removal of these shanty towns. In the end the majority will cheer as their tents are taken away and they're sent packing.

Yup, that's entirely possible as well.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

The protests attract drunk/high homeless people for the heat and free food. It is likely they are the ones doing most of the dumping. I think the vast majority of the protestors would make it to a loo if they could.

But don't let that stop people from shi@#ing all over the protestors...

I'm sorry, but at this point that's great and all, but shouldn't the protestors you know be showing the least bit of control over their protest movement instead of allowing it to become a crap covered gong show?

At the very least if one of their numbers sh%ts on the street then they should pick up their poo.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm sorry, but at this point that's great and all, but shouldn't the protestors you know be showing the least bit of control over their protest movement instead of allowing it to become a crap covered gong show?

At the very least if one of their numbers sh%ts on the street then they should pick up their poo.

Yeah sure. I just think this is being overblown. If it was becoming a big problem you'd think the city would take the tiny expense of placing a couple port-a-potties down there.

Where are all the riot cops taking a dump?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by woob

I think that as this continues and more everyday citizens start either expressing their discontent or their support of this movement to their local/national politicians, the more impact we may start seeing this movement making in the areas where impacts need to be made. It can only be 'ignored' for so long. Either that, or like in Calgary, the weather may start taking care of the so called 'problem' for some of the northern most cities in the US.

I like your optimism....

Personally though, I don't think this movement is going to have much impact at all.

I think what we have here is a bunch of frustrated, yet confused people who aren't really sure how to beat or change the corrupt sytem that is taking over now. That is why we are getting all these mixed messages from the protest. It is not highly organized.

I see this protest as just a seed that has been planted. I think as the economy continues to stagger and/or unravel...things will become more clear as far as identifying the enemy, and protest will become more unified. Hell, maybe one of these coward representatives will actually go against the establishment.

Some bullets were fired at the Whitehouse yesterday. America is going to be Greece 2.0 ...on steroids.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Yeah sure. I just think this is being overblown. If it was becoming a big problem you'd think the city would take the tiny expense of placing a couple port-a-potties down there.

Where are all the riot cops taking a dump?

A) Why should we pay for that, its their damn protest let them pay for it.

B) The city did provide them with bathroom access, and in their gratitude they broke fixtures and trashed it.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

A) Why should we pay for that, its their damn protest let them pay for it.

B) The city did provide them with bathroom access, and in their gratitude they broke fixtures and trashed it.

Well, hate all you like but I would not be willing to shut down peaceful protest because a few people took a dump in the alley.

Maybe it was a big dog? Seriously, there is this big dog a few doors down that leaves what look like brown coke cans on my lawn.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Yasa

[/LIST]The last point "people who deliberately went to the event with racist signs to make the Tea party look racis," really makes me laugh. Oh yeah, for sure. All the obnoxious racist people are just liberal conspirators trying to make us look bad!

Actually Yasa, ...those kinds of things do occur.

There's a website called "crashttheteaparty.org"

Their goal?

“Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled protest signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance them from mainstream America and damage the public’s opinion of them. We will also use the inside information that we have gained in order to disrupt and derail their plans.”

There was another group of Obama supporters called ACORN that would try to disrupt tera party protests. These are old, dirty, sneaky tactics designed to undermine or marginalize a movement. These activities can sometimes be hard to detect, but they exist nonetheless. The FBI's COINTELPRO is another example.

That is not to say that a few folks with a racist disposition didn't show up to tea party rallies, but it is foolish to buy into the msnbc headline that all tea partiers are racist.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by woob

With all due respect to those being impacted, if at 2 months in you're still griping about how this movement, which doesn't show signs of going away yet, is still impacting your day to day life, you need to get over it.

It's kind of like the 2 weeks or so that those living on 17th had to put up with the crowds after Flames games making noise and carrying on late in the evenings in 2004. A buddy had an apartment on 17th and was super annoyed by it (yes, I said boohoo to him too) the first few times, but then he said he just adjusted to it as he knew it would keep going on until the run was done.

And yes, I realize a 2 week hockey run with games not running every night, people not crapping in their neighbourhood, and such is different, but the concept is the same when it comes to adjusting your life until it is finished.

Nonsense. Noise every couple of nights and not being able to get to your job are just a little bit different. The occasional drunk idiot and a few hundred people camped out with drum circles are just a little bit different. Honestly, there is nothing comparable about those situations at all.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well, hate all you like but I would not be willing to shut down peaceful protest because a few people took a dump in the alley.

Maybe it was a big dog? Seriously, there is this big dog a few doors down that leaves what look like brown coke cans on my lawn.

It stopped being a protest a while ago and its just a freak show now.

And seriously unless the dog was a 200 pound dog, it wasn't a dog, you can search back through the occupy Calgary thread for the pictures.

And even if it was a dog, then they're breaking the law by not cleaning it up.

Face facts Mikey, the occupy movement is rapidly moving away from a protest and becoming hobo ville freakshow idiot town.

And I don't hate, you just like to attach that label, if you had read early posts that I had done I said that I had some sympathy for the original occupy wall street protest when it started. I also stated that there were legitimate reasons why they were angry.

But the occupy movement has been hijacked by either self entitled brats who have no clue about what their protesting for, or the idiots from the fringe, or the professional sh%t disturbers.

The occupy Calgary grouping is a laughable gathering of morons who want us to foot the bill for their so called protest, are now telling their members to go down to the drop in center to take warm clothes that should be used for actual people that need them.

They crap in the park, have wrecked the turf, are not really protesting, they're sitting around camping, they want us to pay for their bathrooms, they want free electricity, and they blamed the city for some moron who doesn't know that you don't have a open flame in the tent getting burned.

I don't hate it, are you going to call me a sheeple next? I look at it as pathetic. I look at the protestor screaming "I don't work", I look at the protestor who cried that nobody would help him out, and when he gets offered a job and he doesn't show, and I think that they should be ashamed of the fact that they took the occupy motion in the States where there are real problems and grievances and turned it into a utter joke.