11-08-2011, 06:36 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Penn State football officials implicated in covering up on campus child rape by coach
I am aware that this is being discussed a bit in the NCAA thread but this isn't really about sports, this is about child rape and the subsequent cover-up. That being said mods can move if necessary.
A NCAA football Penn State coach was busted raping ####ing children in the team locker room and the school covered it up. Including the head coach who only did the bare legal minimum and reported it to the athletic director.
Updated with better link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/sp...ewanted=2&_r=1
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A former defensive coordinator for the Penn State football team was arrested Saturday on charges of sexually abusing eight boys across a 15-year period. Jerry Sandusky, 67, who had worked with needy children through his Second Mile foundation, was arraigned and released on $100,000 bail after being charged with 40 counts related to sexual abuse of young boys.
Two top university officials — Gary Schultz, the senior vice president for finance and business, and Tim Curley, the athletic director — were charged Saturday with perjury and failure to report to authorities what they knew of the allegations, as required by state law.
The university president, Graham B. Spanier, who the grand jury said had been made aware of the 2002 incident, said in a statement that he stood behind the two officials.
The grand jury’s report stated that the eight boys were singled out for sexual advances or sexual assaults by Mr. Sandusky between 1994 and 2009. All of the accusers first encountered him through activities related to the Second Mile, a foundation for needy children that he founded in 1977.
According to the grand jury, the assaults occurred in a variety of locations — Penn State football facilities, Mr. Sandusky’s home, a high school, a golf resort near the university’s State College campus — and none of the boys were thought to be older than 13 when they first met Mr. Sandusky.
Another boy attended as many as 15 football games as Mr. Sandusky’s guest; Mr. Sandusky brought him into a shower on campus and made the boy touch his genitals, the grand jury said. He placed his hands down the pants of another boy who spent the night at Sandusky’s house before home games, the grand jury said.
The grand jury report concluded with an incident that it said occurred in 2000, during a week when the Nittany Lions were away from campus for a game. Late at night, a janitor cleaning the football building said he observed Mr. Sandusky performing oral sex on a boy in a shower. Another worker that night found the shaken janitor, who said, “I just witnessed something in there I’ll never forget.”
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http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...876/story.html
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They say the winningest coach in the history of U.S. college football can't possibly survive the guilt by association, having had an alleged secret sexual predator as a player, key assistant and friend for more than 30 years.
And not only that, but having provided Jerry Sandusky with an office after his retirement in 1999 as defensive co-ordinator - an office Sandusky evidently used to lure children as young as nine or 10 onto the university campus, where he allegedly was seen sodomizing a young boy in the lockerroom shower in 2002.
It's not the part about the eyewitness, Mike McQueary, at the time a graduate assistant coach, allegedly seeing an old man having anal sex with what he estimated to be a 10-year-old boy. No, the part that leaped from the page was McQueary's father, reached at his home in State College, Penn., wisely refusing comment on the allegations brought by his son, but offering this on the Nittany Lions' upcoming game against Nebraska:
"Nobody cares as much about the game now because of this, and because Nebraska lost."
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I am not being facetious or using hyperbole. All of these people should be thrown to the wolves. Literally. Put them all in jail in the gen pop and let them get raped to ####ing death by big ol' Jim Bob.
Or hang them from the damn rafters at Penn Stadium. Pigs, every last individual involved.
Last edited by Cecil Terwilliger; 11-08-2011 at 09:38 PM.
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11-08-2011, 06:46 PM
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^ I've been following this story. My god how awful.
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11-08-2011, 06:49 PM
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It's not good. It's also amazing that, considering how long he's been the coach there, this will end up being Paterno's legacy. However, if he knew, it's justified.
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11-08-2011, 07:12 PM
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Hard to fathom he didn't know, considering the witness bringing forth the evidence against the other charged individuals also gave evidence that he brought Paterno the evidence he brought to the other Penn State administration.
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11-08-2011, 07:21 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Paterno knew for sure. He is the only one not being accused of perjury (or charged with perjury). He was the only one that did anything but he only did the legal minimum which was informing school officials. Most of the coaches testified in front of a grand jury iirc. They all lied except Paterno. None of them did anything.
Multiple school officials right up to the highest ranks knew the guy was frequently raping kids in the locker room and didn't do a thing.
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11-08-2011, 07:36 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Here is a more extensive article on the details. I'm on my iPod or I'd extract quotes and stuff.
40 counts of child abuse. Sick ####ing #######s.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/sp...ith-abuse.html
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11-08-2011, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fotze
I'm trying to attempt to understand the thought process for a bit. Did they think the guy was lying?
Its so uncomfortable they just ignore it? Like what the fack. They scared to lose jobs?
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11-08-2011, 07:52 PM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Disgusting. Just awful.
Nothing gets me pissed more than people who mess with kids.
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11-08-2011, 08:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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nm - wrong thread
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11-08-2011, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Paterno knew for sure. He is the only one not being accused of perjury (or charged with perjury). He was the only one that did anything but he only did the legal minimum which was informing school officials. Most of the coaches testified in front of a grand jury iirc. They all lied except Paterno. None of them did anything.
Multiple school officials right up to the highest ranks knew the guy was frequently raping kids in the locker room and didn't do a thing.
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This isn't completely true. The only coach involved is Paterno, the others are administrators.
Nobody seems to know for sure what these people knew, but they knew enough that they should have taken action. Paterno did what he was legally required to do, but that's not enough, especially from someone who has built a good deal of his legacy on being a 'do things the right way' kind of coach. Paterno says he didn't know the details, but frankly that doesn't matter. The allegation minus the details is enough.
I really don't understand the rationale for covering this up. If the school had acted immediately upon finding out it certainly wouldn't have looked good, but it obviously would have been much better than this result. Would it have hurt the football program? Yes, but it wouldn't have been something that prevented them from still being a strong program. Would people hold it against Penn State if they had acted strongly as soon as they had found out? I don't think so. I mean there are sickos hiding in the shadows all over the place, the fact one is associated with your school looks bad, but a swift response reaffirms that you have morals and values and you aren't going to stand for it. This undermines all of that.
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11-08-2011, 09:03 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Joe Paterno might have done the legal minimum but that is far from being good enough. A man of his stature would just need to make one phone call to the local authorities to have the investigation started. Though legally absolved, he should be held just as morally responsible as the other two administrators.
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11-08-2011, 09:06 PM
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I don't get it. They were protecting this sick fata because.... what? He was essential to the football team?
This is the American Graham James story...
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11-08-2011, 09:07 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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Paterno should have realized that nothing was being done after telling the AD, and gone shortly thereafter to higher authorities.
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11-08-2011, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
I don't get it. They were protecting this sick fata because.... what? He was essential to the football team?
This is the American Graham James story...
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Money, what is the football program worth? how much would the lawsuit bring for having your child sodomized by a coach in the showers? upwards of 20 mill? how easy would recruitmet be after that got out?
As sick as it is it almost makes sense, this is so horrific an act it would make no difference whether they did the right thing, the program was dead as soon as it got out. So they choose to cover it up
Last edited by afc wimbledon; 11-08-2011 at 09:23 PM.
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11-08-2011, 09:20 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
Money, what is the football program worth? how much would the lawsuit bring for having your child sodomized by a coach in the showers? upwards of 20 mill?
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$56m last year was the amount brought in by the football program.
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11-08-2011, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
Money, what is the football program worth? how much would the lawsuit bring for having your child sodomized by a coach in the showers? upwards of 20 mill? how easy would recruitmet be after that got out?
As sick as it is it almost makes sense, this is so horrific an act it would make no difference whether they did the right thing, the program was dead as soon as it got out. So they choose to cover it up
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There would certainly be lawsuits, but I don't see how that is a sensical reason.
I don't think a swift response would have seen the program damaged all that much. It would have been a blow, but really I don't see people holding the program responsible for the actions of a retired coach that nobody had any reason to suspect. Were the Swift Current Broncos held responsible for the actions of Graham James? I don't think the public expects an institution to prevent something they don't have any reason to suspect, but they do expect an institution to respond swiftly and strongly when they find out.
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11-08-2011, 09:36 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
Money, what is the football program worth? how much would the lawsuit bring for having your child sodomized by a coach in the showers? upwards of 20 mill? how easy would recruitmet be after that got out?
As sick as it is it almost makes sense, this is so horrific an act it would make no difference whether they did the right thing, the program was dead as soon as it got out. So they choose to cover it up
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Then they are stupid because with the way PSU handled it, the U is definitely on the hook because they abetted it. If they'd just come right out immediately they could have avoided the legal fallout (mostly) because they could have plausibly said "we didn't know he was a sick predator; as soon as we had any suspicions we informed the authorities". Now, it's going to be raining lawsuits...
Nice how Paterno passed the buck. "Well, I informed my boss, so it's not my problem... that my assistant is raping children in my locker room". Lowlife dirtball. Now, I'm sorry I didn't really pay any attention to Rome today - I heard him mention Paterno, but didn't listen to the show at all.
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