'The Walking Dead- TV show ONLY! Only spoilers allowed are about PAST TV episodes!

[jammies]

Assault rifles is what you would be using in a real zombie apocalypse, at least, after the first few days and with any kind of group. You'd want to have everyone have the same weapons with the same ammo to make things as simple as possible, and there would be enough military equipment lying around so that you would never, ever run out of parts or ammunition.

The crossbow/bow would be useful for silent kills, so as not to attract other zombies. So that part makes some sense, at least. But I'd have to think I'd be wanting a sword, too - it never runs out of ammo, and it's quiet, and it keeps the zombie at arm's length when you're killing it. It's not like the zombies are going to fence with you - just keep stabbin' 'em in the face.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Anyone watch the Zombie Apocalypse movie on Space? Not a good movie by any stretch, but the weapons the people wielded were awesome. Swords, sledgehammers, baseball bat, climbing gear, golf club. They also picked up a bunch of carbon football gear for armor. There was also a crew that wielded bows, but they were part of some archery club so they were trained in using them. Ving Rhames even went chainsaw on a big zombie a la Gears of War lol.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

If you describe it like that, yes.

However, would you go in those same woods if you knew they were just off the highway where zombies had been roaming en masse?

Would you feel as comfortable in those woods if you happened upon a zombie hanging in a tree with its legs chewed off?

Generally I'm a person who gets very, very afraid during scary movies. I'm easily submersed in film, and I empathize very easily with developed characters, whether I like them or not.

All of that is killed for me when I see people acting in bizarre and what are to me, nonsensical actions. For instance, running up the stairs in a slasher movie. The best fear is the one developed from terror despite your best efforts, and the relentlessness of zombies is all about that.

The only real moment the series has generated for me in that way is when they end up at the CDC. That made sense, and was much scarrier when you thought that, even though they made what was probably the correct decision, it STILL could be their downfall.

Setting yourself up to be ambushed by zombies, and subsequently being ambushed by zombies isn't terribly scary to me. The fact that even as someone who easily empathizes with onscreen characters can't connect with these ones leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

A crossbow? Really? I get that they are badass, quieter than a gun and translate well in comics, but the idea of walking around with a crossbow as your primary weapon during the zombiepocalypse is nutty. You'd be better off with a regular bow.

Things like that take me out of it. I watch the show now to see how they'll inevitably kill him off during a scene where he either runs out of bolts or can't reload them in time.

/rant

Why are you even here?

Why watch something you dislike, never mind go so far as to explain your thoughts about it to - and argue with - strangers on the internet?

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread. Any time there's a thread about a TV show or a Movie it seems inundated by people who have no motivation other than to explain to others how they dislike it.

Why even bother with any of it then?

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I don't give a #### about any of these characters, the acting is wooden, the leads are terrible and there are only so many times I can make my mind escape from the obvious ways these people get themselves into trouble.

No one is forcing you to watch the show.

Seriously.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm not suggesting you pick up a bow, I'm suggesting this guy pick up a gun. If this guy is a rural hunting, live off the land type, and has his own crossbow, I don't think it's a leap to suggest he can also handle a draw-bow.

How many crossbow bolts are you going to come across scavenging? Even in Canada, I could make my way across the country with a .22 and never run out of ammo.

Hell, if I had a .22 and a pump action chambered for 3 inch shells, I'd die from my lack of speed being bogged down so much by the ammo I'd collected.

If there was a zombie apocalypse right now, right this second. I could grab enough ammunition to hold me over for a significant length of time in a 40 minute round trip walk, and this is in one of the least firearm dense environments in the country, let alone southern Georgia.

All of this is besides the real point of him being surrounded by people with guns.

On the plus side, this show has provided me with a great soapbox for tangents.

Well if you actually watched then you would know that Darryl has his crossbow for taking out one or two zombies, but he also carries a hand gun. Also he does not scavenge for crossbow arrows, he always goes and takes the arrow from the zombie he just killed so he can use it again. His crossbow is only used for when he wants to be silent. Believe it or not the zombies are attracted to sound (weird) so firing a gun to kill 1 zombie is overkill and dumb.

While you are wasting time collecting ammo and shooting your gun like it's going out of style, I will be sneaking around getting items that are acutally going to be needed. Then when you are surrounded and killed by zombies from making so much noise I will sneak in and take your stash of guns and ammo.

You only need assault rifles and .50 cal machine guns if you go and put yourself in harms way. If you actually think of a plan to stay hidden and use your brain you don't need all that stuff. Zombies are stupid and can't set traps or think ahead, their only instinct is to feed. Your biggest weapon against zombies is your smarts not how big of a cannon you can find.

/rant about a dumb rant.

[Flash Walken]

LOL, I really riled up the hornets nest.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Oh noes, I really riled up the zombies.

fyp

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

fyp

BrrAAIINNsss!!

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Well if you actually watched then you would know that Darryl has his crossbow for taking out one or two zombies, but he also carries a hand gun. Also he does not scavenge for crossbow arrows, he always goes and takes the arrow from the zombie he just killed so he can use it again. His crossbow is only used for when he wants to be silent. Believe it or not the zombies are attracted to sound (weird) so firing a gun to kill 1 zombie is overkill and dumb.

I mentioned all of this in my post, I don't know why you're repeating it.

Second, he does not retrieve all his bolts as evidenced by shooting the hanging zombie in the head and walking away.

Also, he's not using depleted uranium 'crossbow arrows'. I don't know how many arrows you've shot, but even the thick diameter of crossbow bolts break down after a few shots, and I'm talking about the elements of the bolt designed to withstand repeated use. The fletchings are a totally different animal and would likely require regular repair once he ran out of bolts (assuming his crossbow is equipped to also shoot arrows).

My point is that is it a completely and utterly antiquated weapon. It obviously has it's uses, but as a primary weapon with a pistol secondary, you're hooped.

I also don't see why pointing that out is ridiculous. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

You only need assault rifles and .50 cal machine guns if you go and put yourself in harms way. If you actually think of a plan to stay hidden and use your brain you don't need all that stuff. Zombies are stupid and can't set traps or think ahead, their only instinct is to feed. Your biggest weapon against zombies is your smarts not how big of a cannon you can find.

/rant about a dumb rant.

In a zombie apocalypse, you're always in harms way. You're outnumbered potentially by BILLIONS to 1.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I mentioned all of this in my post, I don't know why you're repeating it.

Second, he does not retrieve all his bolts as evidenced by shooting the hanging zombie in the head and walking away.

Also, he's not using depleted uranium 'crossbow arrows'. I don't know how many arrows you've shot, but even the thick diameter of crossbow bolts break down after a few shots, and I'm talking about the elements of the bolt designed to withstand repeated use. The fletchings are a totally different animal and would likely require regular repair once he ran out of bolts (assuming his crossbow is equipped to also shoot arrows).

My point is that is it a completely and utterly antiquated weapon. It obviously has it's uses, but as a primary weapon with a pistol secondary, you're hooped.

I also don't see why pointing that out is ridiculous. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.


In a zombie apocalypse, you're always in harms way. You're outnumbered potentially by BILLIONS to 1.

Actually I don't see where you mention all of that in your post. Your post was ranting about how the guy is stupid for not having a gun, which he actually has. The reason he doesn't use a gun is for stealth, if you've noticed the entire group hardly ever uses their guns.

Boy you sure got me with your second point...Yep, he left one 'bolt' in the zombie in the tree. I'm probably not going to climb a tree and risk hurting myself for a 'bolt' either. Go back and watch every episode and tell me another time he doesn't go and retrieve the 'bolt'.

There is no need to get your panties in a bunch because I called the 'bolts' arrows. I have maybe shot a handful or arrows in my life, none from a crossbow. Sorry that I'm not a manly man like you who knows so much about them that he feels the need to go on and on about specifications of 'bolts'. It is a fictional TV show, and you are ranting about how unlikely it is that a crossbow bolt would be so durable. Seriously?

I disagree, a crossbow a pistol are a fine combo if you are not looking to go on a zombie killing spree. I guarantee I can sneak around better than you can trying to blaze a bloody trail down the middle. Your automatic weapons and rocket launchers won't keep you safe for very long.

It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight with a ###### who can't fire his gun. Sure if I run into you and you have a machine gun and I have a crossbow then you are probably going to win...If you are a dumb zombie and I have baseball bat, I'm probably going to win.

You might always be in harms way, but there are ways to minimize that. Running around and shooting your gun off like a drunk American on the 4th of July is not the way to do it.

See who lasts longer, the guy with a crossbow and 9mm hand gun sneaking around or the dummy running around like he is in a call of duty game firing at will.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Why are you even here?

Why watch something you dislike, never mind go so far as to explain your thoughts about it to - and argue with - strangers on the internet?

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread. Any time there's a thread about a TV show or a Movie it seems inundated by people who have no motivation other than to explain to others how they dislike it.

Why even bother with any of it then?

So this thread should only be about people telling other people why the show is good? There is nothing wrong with someone playing devil's advocate. It sparks good debate.

Flash doesn't like the show, so he's not allowed in the thread unless he has positive things to say?

It's a TV Show, there is no right or wrong, it's a matter of opinion. Yes, it's a little silly why Flash still watches it if he hates it so much, but that's his perogative.

A TV or movie show thread where it's just a big circle jerk with everyone discussing why it's so great can be a pretty boring thread at times.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Actually I don't see where you mention all of that in your post. Your post was ranting about how the guy is stupid for not having a gun, which he actually has. The reason he doesn't use a gun is for stealth, if you've noticed the entire group hardly ever uses their guns.

Boy you sure got me with your second point...Yep, he left one 'bolt' in the zombie in the tree. I'm probably not going to climb a tree and risk hurting myself for a 'bolt' either. Go back and watch every episode and tell me another time he doesn't go and retrieve the 'bolt'.

There is no need to get your panties in a bunch because I called the 'bolts' arrows. I have maybe shot a handful or arrows in my life, none from a crossbow. Sorry that I'm not a manly man like you who knows so much about them that he feels the need to go on and on about specifications of 'bolts'. It is a fictional TV show, and you are ranting about how unlikely it is that a crossbow bolt would be so durable. Seriously?

I disagree, a crossbow a pistol are a fine combo if you are not looking to go on a zombie killing spree. I guarantee I can sneak around better than you can trying to blaze a bloody trail down the middle. Your automatic weapons and rocket launchers won't keep you safe for very long.

It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight with a ###### who can't fire his gun. Sure if I run into you and you have a machine gun and I have a crossbow then you are probably going to win...If you are a dumb zombie and I have baseball bat, I'm probably going to win.

You might always be in harms way, but there are ways to minimize that. Running around and shooting your gun off like a drunk American on the 4th of July is not the way to do it.

See who lasts longer, the guy with a crossbow and 9mm hand gun sneaking around or the dummy running around like he is in a call of duty game firing at will.

I appreciate your passion, but I think it's pretty clear you're not paying attention to what I"m saying.

Enjoy the show.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

So this thread should only be about people telling other people why the show is good? There is nothing wrong with someone playing devil's advocate. It sparks good debate.

Flash doesn't like the show, so he's not allowed in the thread unless he has positive things to say?

It's a TV Show, there is no right or wrong, it's a matter of opinion. Yes, it's a little silly why Flash still watches it if he hates it so much, but that's his perogative.

A TV or movie show thread where it's just a big circle jerk with everyone discussing why it's so great can be a pretty boring thread at times.

Nowhere at all do I mention I hate the show.

I just watch for a different reason now; I'm actively rooting against all of the characters.

Also of note: I'm not saying many things that other people haven't already posted about. If you re-read the thread, you'll notice there is a large group of the viewers actively dissatisfied with the show they continue to watch, hoping it pays off.

Starting to get a real season 2 of Lost vibe from this show. Different reasons, but giving me the same feeling.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Why are you even here?

Why watch something you dislike, never mind go so far as to explain your thoughts about it to - and argue with - strangers on the internet?

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread. Any time there's a thread about a TV show or a Movie it seems inundated by people who have no motivation other than to explain to others how they dislike it.

Why even bother with any of it then?

I don't know why you participate in a discussion forum if you're so antagonistic towards discussion.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

So this thread should only be about people telling other people why the show is good? There is nothing wrong with someone playing devil's advocate. It sparks good debate.

Flash doesn't like the show, so he's not allowed in the thread unless he has positive things to say?

It's a TV Show, there is no right or wrong, it's a matter of opinion. Yes, it's a little silly why Flash still watches it if he hates it so much, but that's his perogative.

A TV or movie show thread where it's just a big circle jerk with everyone discussing why it's so great can be a pretty boring thread at times.

It's a pretty simple concept. If you don't like something and find so many faults with it that it's not worth your time... why continue to watch and then take it one further and come and rant about it to strangers?

Seems like a giant waste of time to me and does nothing to further discussion.

When I see threads about movies or films in here it's usually one of two things. A (as I see here) someone complaining about everything they find wrong with it and people trying to convince them they're wrong, or B) you giving a report on every single item like you're a featured blogger.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I don't know why you participate in a discussion forum if you're so antagonistic towards discussion.

And as I said I don't understand why you spend hours of your own time watching and then discussing something you supposedly dislike.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

It's a pretty simple concept. If you don't like something and find so many faults with it that it's not worth your time... why continue to watch and then take it one further and come and rant about it to strangers?

Seems like a giant waste of time to me and does nothing to further discussion.

Sure it does. Nothing wrong with a little debate. Person A says why it's good. Person B says why it's bad, debate ensues. Nothing wrong with that. i agree that it's a little strange that Flash continues to watch and put time into something he dislikes(or doesn't like as much as other is probably more accurate), but who am I or you to say that he shouldn't. Maybe he sees potential and wants to see it thru. Who knows, and who cares. Disagree with what he says and post why, as opposed to turning it personal.

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

When I see threads about movies or films in here it's usually one of two things. A (as I see here) someone complaining about everything they find wrong with it and people trying to convince them they're wrong, or B) you giving a report on every single item like you're a featured blogger.

A: once again, nothing wrong with people having different opinions.

B: I don't know what the hell that's supposed to mean. I've barely posted in this thread at all, especially this season. But I do find it funny that you lecture me on de-railing threads when turning things personal, but you attempt(and fail I might add) to do the same.

[Stay Golden]

When Carl went into the seizure I thought he was a gonner.
Nice twist of what really happened in the town with that Hunter and Shane.
Wonder when and in what condition is the missing kid going to show up.

[Lobotroth]

Really enjoyed tonight's episode, I was skeptical after the first couple episodes but I think they're pacing the season nicely so far. There's a feeling you get every week that they'll finally find the little girl, inching closer and closer to a lead or a sign of her. The zombie in the well and the ensuing death made me giddy, really well done.

[Ozy_Flame]

Boring episode. Not enough craziness from Shane. The week prior was much better.