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10-31-2011, 03:27 PM
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#581
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Stupid question time - do zombies just stay "alive" forever, unless killed? As in, they can't starve to death eventually or something? Forgive me, this show is my first foray into zombie stuff.
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10-31-2011, 03:33 PM
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#582
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Depends on the zombie, but a 'traditional zombie' who is reanimated dead, won't starve to death. Zombies that are the result of a virus mutation and as such are not really undead could very well starve, like in 28 Days Later.
We don't know a lot about the zombies in The Walking Dead (from the TV series alone), but they seem to be reanimated, and as such, I would find it unlikely that they would starve to death.
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Last edited by Rathji; 10-31-2011 at 03:35 PM.
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10-31-2011, 03:34 PM
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#583
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So we don't know about these ones then? I'm just wondering about that one that was hanging mostly I guess.
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10-31-2011, 03:35 PM
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#584
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
So we don't know about these ones then? I'm just wondering about that one that was hanging mostly I guess.
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I don't believe these ones starve, someone correct me if I am wrong.
Also the one in the tree (had he gotten free) likely wouldn't have been able to walk as the muscles from his legs were eaten. He would have had to drag himself around.
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10-31-2011, 03:40 PM
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#585
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Winnipeg
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
While I agree, unless you have an ammo box kicking around, not worth the struggle. They weigh a lot and having speacilized amunition and are complicated to maintain. That being said, I didn't notice them kicking around in that scene but if one was loaded and in working order, it sure would have made short work of a good chunk of that horde and made for a hell of a good scene!
But ya, all of those soldiers they have seen should all have 9mm handguns at least and all of them would have been carrying the same ammo. Same with their assault rifles.
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I wasn't specific enough as I was trying not to spoil anything for viewers who are behind, but I was referencing the CDC episodes. There was all kinds of munition lying around. I would have likely stuck around after the explosion just to see what I could salvage.
As people have pointed out, however, it really depends on how dire the situation is. If it was me, I'd take a certain amount of risk to ensure I was well armed.
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10-31-2011, 03:41 PM
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what differentiates the situation where a person is bitten and turns into a zombie, and a person is simply eaten.
And why aren't zombies cannibals? cannabilism is only a moral thing, so, zombie cannibals seems quite believable.
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10-31-2011, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Codes
I wasn't specific enough as I was trying not to spoil anything for viewers who are behind, but I was referencing the CDC episodes. There was all kinds of munition lying around. I would have likely stuck around after the explosion just to see what I could salvage.
As people have pointed out, however, it really depends on how dire the situation is. If it was me, I'd take a certain amount of risk to ensure I was well armed.
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Ahhhh, that one, ya, I would have been all over those as well. TONS of hardware lying around even after the explosion. A belt fed .50 cal would be ideal for protecting a place you want to stick around in for a while for sure. Even their nice, light weight assault rifles would have been a great find.
Christ, given enough time I think I would see what I could do about getting one of those tanks fired up.
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10-31-2011, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
Christ, given enough time I think I would see what I could do about getting one of those tanks fired up.
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Just imagine the zombie crushing awesomeness that would ensue.
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10-31-2011, 04:37 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Rathji
Depends on the zombie, but a 'traditional zombie' who is reanimated dead, won't starve to death. Zombies that are the result of a virus mutation and as such are not really undead could very well starve, like in 28 Days Later.
We don't know a lot about the zombies in The Walking Dead (from the TV series alone), but they seem to be reanimated, and as such, I would find it unlikely that they would starve to death.
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They sort of touched base on this (from the parts that I saw,) on The Talking Dead - about how the "fresher" the zombie, the faster and more agile they are, where as the "older" the zombie, the slower and more clumsy they get due to decomposition. So I assume if they're subject to decomposition, they'll eventually rot away to nothing after about the 28 day mark.
I would have to assume that rigor mortis would play a roll in a zombie's functionality between the three to twelve-hour mark as well.
Personally, I've always wondered that if it's a virus that is reanimating the body, if you don't really "kill" a zombie, but paralyze one. Like, by severing the head or destroying the brain, you are effectively removing the virus' control over the host's nervous system - thus why you can't kill them any other way.
Last edited by RedJester; 10-31-2011 at 04:39 PM.
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10-31-2011, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hanni
Just imagine the zombie crushing awesomeness that would ensue.
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Combined with the machine guns and main cannon on it? Man.....mobile bunker for the win. I'd park as many of those as I could around that farm house and settle in for a while.
What type of fuel do the turbine powered tanks use?
I've said it before, I'll say it again. If we have to suffer any kind of apacolypse, PLEASE let it be of the zombie variety.
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10-31-2011, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hanni
Just imagine the zombie crushing awesomeness that would ensue.
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I wonder how many bodies it would take before the tank gets high centered or bogged down?
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10-31-2011, 05:34 PM
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They're from rural Georgia. The dark woods are not foreign to them, zombies or not. In fact, that's exactly where I would go if there was a zombie apocalypse.
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If you describe it like that, yes.
However, would you go in those same woods if you knew they were just off the highway where zombies had been roaming en masse?
Would you feel as comfortable in those woods if you happened upon a zombie hanging in a tree with its legs chewed off?
Generally I'm a person who gets very, very afraid during scary movies. I'm easily submersed in film, and I empathize very easily with developed characters, whether I like them or not.
All of that is killed for me when I see people acting in bizarre and what are to me, nonsensical actions. For instance, running up the stairs in a slasher movie. The best fear is the one developed from terror despite your best efforts, and the relentlessness of zombies is all about that.
The only real moment the series has generated for me in that way is when they end up at the CDC. That made sense, and was much scarrier when you thought that, even though they made what was probably the correct decision, it STILL could be their downfall.
Setting yourself up to be ambushed by zombies, and subsequently being ambushed by zombies isn't terribly scary to me. The fact that even as someone who easily empathizes with onscreen characters can't connect with these ones leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
A crossbow? Really? I get that they are badass, quieter than a gun and translate well in comics, but the idea of walking around with a crossbow as your primary weapon during the zombiepocalypse is nutty. You'd be better off with a regular bow.
Things like that take me out of it. I watch the show now to see how they'll inevitably kill him off during a scene where he either runs out of bolts or can't reload them in time.
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10-31-2011, 05:35 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
I wonder how many bodies it would take before the tank gets high centered or bogged down?
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A lot I would imagine.
Flesh and bone aren't like sand or or mud.
Perhaps on an open field eventually the ground would become saturated with blood and guts and being to give a tank trouble, but on an interstate? You could go 'til you were running on fumes.
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10-31-2011, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
Combined with the machine guns and main cannon on it? Man.....mobile bunker for the win. I'd park as many of those as I could around that farm house and settle in for a while.
What type of fuel do the turbine powered tanks use?
I've said it before, I'll say it again. If we have to suffer any kind of apacolypse, PLEASE let it be of the zombie variety.
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Wikipedia says the Abrams has moved from diesel to JP-8 jet fuel, which could pose a problem. Still, it would fun while it lasted.
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10-31-2011, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
If you describe it like that, yes.
However, would you go in those same woods if you knew they were just off the highway where zombies had been roaming en masse?
Would you feel as comfortable in those woods if you happened upon a zombie hanging in a tree with its legs chewed off?
Generally I'm a person who gets very, very afraid during scary movies. I'm easily submersed in film, and I empathize very easily with developed characters, whether I like them or not.
All of that is killed for me when I see people acting in bizarre and what are to me, nonsensical actions. For instance, running up the stairs in a slasher movie. The best fear is the one developed from terror despite your best efforts, and the relentlessness of zombies is all about that.
The only real moment the series has generated for me in that way is when they end up at the CDC. That made sense, and was much scarrier when you thought that, even though they made what was probably the correct decision, it STILL could be their downfall.
Setting yourself up to be ambushed by zombies, and subsequently being ambushed by zombies isn't terribly scary to me. The fact that even as someone who easily empathizes with onscreen characters can't connect with these ones leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
A crossbow? Really? I get that they are badass, quieter than a gun and translate well in comics, but the idea of walking around with a crossbow as your primary weapon during the zombiepocalypse is nutty. You'd be better off with a regular bow.
Things like that take me out of it. I watch the show now to see how they'll inevitably kill him off during a scene where he either runs out of bolts or can't reload them in time.
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Well, I think the obvious thing is - we just don't know.
I'm not sure about you, but I'd be pretty fing useless at actually making a bow. It would be inaccurate as all hell, with crooked arrows and a poor frame.
Also, if you haven't used a bow before... archery is a tough skill to master. Using a bow takes some skill - crossbows on the other hand are so simple to use, just load, aim and fire.
In medieval times, even though crossbows had a slower rate of fire than normal bows, one of the reasons they were so common was because any idiot could use one easily with little training.
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10-31-2011, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RedJester
The only part of the show that really grinds my gears is this whole moody, brooding "I hate life" arch-story with Angela. She survived the zombie apocalypse for crying out loud.
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Come on now. There isn't a hell of a lot to look forward to in a Zombie Apocalypse.
I thought the debate with Carl in the episode was very well done - and it's a legitimate thought to have about a child.
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10-31-2011, 06:43 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Come on now. There isn't a hell of a lot to look forward to in a Zombie Apocalypse.
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I agree, but it just seems like they've dragged this whole story arch on too long. Never mind the fact that she's had her backside saved on more than one occasion by the people she's supposed to be doing this big favor by not killing herself for.
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10-31-2011, 07:09 PM
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#598
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Well, I think the obvious thing is - we just don't know.
I'm not sure about you, but I'd be pretty fing useless at actually making a bow. It would be inaccurate as all hell, with crooked arrows and a poor frame.
Also, if you haven't used a bow before... archery is a tough skill to master. Using a bow takes some skill - crossbows on the other hand are so simple to use, just load, aim and fire.
In medieval times, even though crossbows had a slower rate of fire than normal bows, one of the reasons they were so common was because any idiot could use one easily with little training.
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I'm not suggesting you pick up a bow, I'm suggesting this guy pick up a gun. If this guy is a rural hunting, live off the land type, and has his own crossbow, I don't think it's a leap to suggest he can also handle a draw-bow.
How many crossbow bolts are you going to come across scavenging? Even in Canada, I could make my way across the country with a .22 and never run out of ammo.
Hell, if I had a .22 and a pump action chambered for 3 inch shells, I'd die from my lack of speed being bogged down so much by the ammo I'd collected.
If there was a zombie apocalypse right now, right this second. I could grab enough ammunition to hold me over for a significant length of time in a 40 minute round trip walk, and this is in one of the least firearm dense environments in the country, let alone southern Georgia.
All of this is besides the real point of him being surrounded by people with guns.
On the plus side, this show has provided me with a great soapbox for tangents.
Last edited by Flash Walken; 10-31-2011 at 07:11 PM.
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10-31-2011, 07:55 PM
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#599
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
and just another small note, if you ever in a zombie apocolypse, and you happen to find a place with running water, hot shower etc. don't shave your head above the sink. It'll just clog it up and you'll probably have to go to a Home Depot for parts. Cut you hair outside.
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He was shaving it for his role in the Pacific.
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10-31-2011, 09:26 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Have you guys seen this article from Cracked? I thought it was a pretty good read.
"7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak would fail"
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683...l-quickly.html
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