Steve Jobs has died.

[Thrillingbroom]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I am not a cancer expert at all, but wasn't the chances of Steve Jobs surviving as long as he did for the type of cancer he had less than 1% with normal medicine? or am I confusing that with someone else who had cancer?

It was a rare form of pancreatic cancer, IIRC 1% is the percent of pancreatic cancer diagnoses that are the same as Jobs'. Its usually quite treatable and doesn't have as bad of prognosis as most other pancreatic cancers, which only give most patients a year once diagnosed.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Krack Korn

Saw this elsewhere:

10 years ago we still had Steve Jobs, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope

Today we have no jobs, no cash and no hope.

Need to put down the entire thing...


No Hope, no Cash, no Jobs. Kevin Bacon please don't die.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Krack Korn

Saw this elsewhere:

10 years ago we still had Steve Jobs, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope

Today we have no jobs, no cash and no hope.

That borrows from the rap "Two Nations" by The Streets:

We don't shoot idols happily shoot instead
Up my road the police just thought are you dead
'Cause they guessed he might of been a bit of a terrorister
Does this bomb look big in this bag then but we love Biggy, Johnny Cash and Stevie Wonder
It's no Biggy we got no cash and its no wonder
'Cause I'm proud we gave you people like John Lennon
Even though you shot him as well

[chemgear]

Dang it, must have been crazy frustrating for his family given the choices he was making about his health:

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/1...nt/?&hpt=hp_c2

His family pleaded with him, but it wasn't until June 2004, when a CAT scan revealed that the tumor had grown and perhaps spread, that he had to realize he couldn't successfully will his own cancer treatment.

Flash forward to 2008, when Jobs and his doctors knew the cancer was spreading. Besides being in pain, Jobs was losing a lot of weight. This was partly a result of the partial Whipple procedure, partly because his appetite was reduced because of cancer and morphine, and also because he insisted on the same restrictive diets and fasts he'd practiced since his teenage years. Sometimes he would spend weeks only eating something like apples, or a carrot salad with lemon, and then abruptly denounce that food.

Jobs again went against doctors when he insisted that they not pump out his stomach when they needed to perform a routine procedure. That led to pneumonia, and he might have died. But he survived, and didn't lose his stubbornness, even while deeply sedated. He thought the oxygen monitor on his finger was "ugly and too complex," and offered ideas for making the design simpler.

[Komskies]

I guess even a genius can be stupid, assuming this information is correct.

[Bill Bumface]

There are a lot of 40-50 year old women at my office that need to read this. If I hear one more person talk about their "Negative Energy" and various ways of treating it to alleviate their health concerns, I'll lose it.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Komskies

I guess even a genius can be stupid, assuming this information is correct.

I work with a guy like this. Really smart guy, but he buys into hemeopathy, and bs miracle cure stuff. He even bought Kevin Trudeau's book and thinks the guy is being persecuted by big pharma for preaching the truth. He always says ,"Drugs kill more people than they help." "It is an epidemic., they have a cure for cancer and AIDS..etc." "Vaccines kill thousands, they are not necessary."

You point out facts like humans are living longer than ever, you would never be able to keep the wraps on a cure for Cancer since the inventor would be an instant billionaire, and vaccines have saved millions and millions of lives, he just talks over you like you are an idiot. He might as well plug his ears and start going la,la,la...I can't hear you...la,la,la.

I respect the guy as a professional, but man, he somehow got some crazy ideas about health and medicine. All of a sudden he goes from being one of the smartest people I know, to a total quack job moron.