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Old 01-23-2006, 10:59 PM   #181
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Technically, it's possible, but if they tried that, the Tories and Bloc would shut them down on the first non-confidence motion. What's the point in trying to form a coalition that still isn't a majority?
Good point. I would hope they wouldn't do that. Otherwise, why the hell did I just vote?
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:59 PM   #182
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I am unimpressed with the amount of seats the Tories won. This is a liberal country afterall it would seem. Unless the Libs really **** around in the House of Commons, I think they will probably win a majority next election.
I doubt it. Unless the Conservatives screw it up royally, I say they win a majority next time. People were scared of change this time around, next time, when they see the Conservatives doing good things, they won't be as scared.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:59 PM   #183
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Martin going to speak soon (on CTV)
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:00 PM   #184
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My understanding is that the Libs and the NDP form a coalition government and combine as one party and therefore have more seats than the conservatives and they form the minority government. Not likley going to happen but i would not put it past Martin or Layton
I suppose that is a possibility...the problem though is that they couldnt push through a single piece of legislation without the support of the Bloc....

That aint happenin as the Liberals were clobbered in Quebec from where they were and the Bloc would be committing suicide trying to support them at this point.

Anyhow...it looks like IF the #'s stay the same, the Torys will bring that Indy in the fold without actually having him cross, appoint a Lib speaker, and they have there voting block if they team with the NDP.

I have to believe that the NDP wants to be important...and that would only work when aligning with the Cons.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:01 PM   #185
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Probably the worst possible result for the Conservatives in the long run . . . . . a disastrous and unworkable small minority destined to collapse within six months to a year and Harper leading them into the next election.

This will be the one (1) and only time I'll ever agree with super wingnut Ezra Levant who said the Tories, NDP and everyone else should spend the next six months opening every orifice of the last 13 years and find all the other Liberal scandals buried there.

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Old 01-23-2006, 11:02 PM   #186
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I suppose that is a possibility...the problem though is that they couldnt push through a single piece of legislation without the support of the Bloc....

That aint happenin as the Liberals were clobbered in Quebec from where they were and the Bloc would be committing suicide trying to support them at this point.

Anyhow...it looks like IF the #'s stay the same, the Torys will bring that Indy in the fold without actually having him cross, appoint a Lib speaker, and they have there voting block if they team with the NDP.

I have to believe that the NDP wants to be important...and that would only work when aligning with the Cons.
Tories and Bloc make a coalition. Tories agree to Quebec having more rights if they side with the Cons on everything else.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:02 PM   #187
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Probably the worst possible result for the Conservatives in the long run . . . . . a disastrous and unworkable small minority destined to collapse within six months to a year and Harper leading them into the next election.

This will be the one (1) and only time I'll ever agree with super wingnut Ezra Levant who said the Tories, NDP and everyone else should spend the next six months opening every orifice of the last 13 years and find all the other Liberal scandals buried there.

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What will that gain the, maybe 3 more seats?
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:03 PM   #188
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The NDP campaigned on the idea that the Liberals weren't a party voters could support any longer. There's no way they could partner with them at this point.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:03 PM   #189
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Quite suprised and a little dissapointed the Liberals made triple digits. You'd think after running that thing they called an election campaign and insulting the intelligence of Canadians with the "Military/Cities" ad people would be more inclined to take em down a few more pegs. Guess not. Glad to see Alberta is 100% Conservative though.

Still, I'm very happy the Conservatives won even if it is a minority government. Their big job now is to show Canadians that they have no hidden agenda and that a party other than the Liberals can, in fact, run this country effectively. Hoping to see them improve on their 120+ seats come next election.

Wonder how all the Liberal's and their supporters like the sound of "Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his Conservative Government" too
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Probably the worst possible result for the Conservatives in the long run . . . . . a disastrous and unworkable small minority destined to collapse within six months to a year and Harper leading them into the next election.

This will be the one (1) and only time I'll ever agree with super wingnut Ezra Levant who said the Tories, NDP and everyone else should spend the next six months opening every orifice of the last 13 years and find all the other Liberal scandals buried there.

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What?? Unless the Conservatives do something incredibly stupid within the next 6 months to a year not one of the other party leaders are going to have the balls to bring down this government.

Very interesting situation now with the Bloc holding the balance of power.
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Probably the worst possible result for the Conservatives in the long run . . . . . a disastrous and unworkable small minority destined to collapse within six months to a year and Harper leading them into the next election.

This will be the one (1) and only time I'll ever agree with super wingnut Ezra Levant who said the Tories, NDP and everyone else should spend the next six months opening every orifice of the last 13 years and find all the other Liberal scandals buried there.

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Be nice if they could find some solid evidence to lock Chretien behind bars for a while.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:06 PM   #192
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They may not have gotten a lot of seats but I almost think the rest of Canada is trying them on. If they don't do anything they perceive as too Right, then they may just pick up seats next election or if they stumble. Especially if they can pin it on the Libs as to why they're going back again. Funny I thought there'd be a lot of gloating and high fives here and almost everyone is depressed. Funny old game.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:08 PM   #193
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I'm glad Sarmite Bulte got booted. I can just imagine her yelling about the stupid fringe free information freaks that got her turfed.
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Very interesting situation now with the Bloc holding the balance of power.
Not so fast.

As the numbers are looking like the Cons and the NDP are at 154...appoint the speaker from the Libs and you have a solid coalition...no?
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Did Martin just commend Layton and Duceppe for campaigns well run? Did he puposely leave out Harper?
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:10 PM   #196
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That radio talk-show guy in Quebec who won the independent seat must be grinning from ear to ear tonight. His vote is going to be very important.
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Martin resigns as Leader of the Liberals
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This Martin speech is horrible. He cant get 1 sentence out without being interrupted by all the clapping. But, he just resigned as leader, so thats good.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:14 PM   #199
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No more leadership for Martin!
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:14 PM   #200
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Martin's resigning!

Bring on John Manley, PLEASE. I'll commit to the LPC if they do that.
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