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Old 10-11-2011, 04:46 PM   #121
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Occupy CaptainCrunch - October 15!
Well isn't that just . . . . strange.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:04 PM   #122
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Not a good start for the group. A lack of organization and focus will likely mean more of this type of attention - which makes the whole thing look like its being done half-arsed.
The OP doesn't even know what it's about. It would make a lot more sense for all the people who want to gather for "Occupy Calgary" to just rent a big bus and head to New York. At least in NYC there's a protest going on and they've almost figured out what exactly they are protesting down there. Here it just doesn't add up to anything - there's literally nothing to protest.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:27 PM   #123
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I thought this was a dumb idea. Then they had Paul Hughes on the news (CP poster of backyard chicken fame). Will there be a cookout featuring spit-roasted chicken? I would see the merit of this event in that case. Rotisserie chicken cooked on an open flame is the way it was meant to be prepared!
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:07 PM   #124
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This is the issue that is bugging me.

First off I am not 'that' old. I consider mid 30's still pretty young. But this current generation just doesn't get it. This generation thinks they are the only generation that has faced any sort of adversity. I remember coming home when I was 7, and my dad had his face buried in his hands crying his eyes out, and my mother was consoling him. He had lost his job as a result of the NEP, and we were going to lose our home as a result.

My dad, an engineer, instead of woe is me'ing like today's generation, chose to put his skill set from his youth to work as a carpenter, and started a small renovations/handyman business. We downgraded, and moved from the big house on the lake, to a dinky bungalow forclosure that needed a ton of fixing up. He chose to adapt, and survive. Do you think one of the most talented engineers of his generation, liked replacing toilets, or patching up drywall. Of course not, but he came from a generation that did what it took. He didn't protest, or make an ass of himself. He took lemons, and made the best lemonade he could out of it.

Sh1t happens, and it always will happen. Instead of complaining, get out there, take a crappy job, and be the absolute best you can be at that job. You might actually learn something about yourself, and you might even get promoted or get noticed by someone with a better job to offer. I went through a absolute rock bottom low point where I had no choice but to take a job delivering Pizza for Panago. I delivered a Pizza to the house of the owner that owned the first dealership I worked for. Instead of making him pay the bill, I handed him a resume and said he can pay me back with an interview. 12 years later, I am still with the same brand, and in a management capacity, all without even a grade 11 education.

Sitting back and bitching about the man holding you back is weak. Get out there and take control of your own destiny. No jobs in your field of education.. too bad, do something else, life is short. Complaining isn't taking control, it is the weak chicken sh1t way out.

OH, and change the picture on your facebook profile too, that helps.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:20 PM   #125
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This is so stupid. Bunch of people with no probably no understanding of economics are going to gather, chant and laugh, ramble incoherently against Teh Rich! and Teh Big Greeedy Coorporationz!, have a good time, and disperse. Waste of time.

This kind of thing gets nothing done.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:22 PM   #126
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From the quote attributed to Socrates:

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The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders. They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers.
The younger generation is no different than any other generation.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:56 PM   #127
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Not sure why this protest movement is coming to Calgary, we live in an economic paradise compared to almost anywhere else at the moment.

I do however, agree with some of the sentiments of the protesters in the US. First, people aren't stupid, they see that things south of the border have been sliding for years. The average salaries of regular folks haven't increased relative to their bosses since the 80's, most folks are behind where things were 30 years ago. The myth of the degree is also over, people are waking up to realize obtaining a degree in whatever topic interested them isn't going to cut it, especially when times get tough. I blame the education institutions and guidance counselors who created the illusion that obtaining a liberal arts degree wasn't a complete waste of time and money. I kind of saw this coming, it seemed like every third girl I knew in high school was going to be a child psychologist. The oft shunned trades, which high schools promoted only to the near ######ed, were all along the best bet for many people who went through impractical higher education.

There is also a complete disconnect between people in politics and the plight of the average American. You have special interests groups guiding decision making, people like Grover Norquist forbidding tax increases come hell or high water. The republic is broken, the two party system is a joke. Both parties continue to slide right, attempting to appease very fringe elements of the electorate. Every decision right or wrong is predicated entirely on political gains. I don't see the two party system disappearing with the money backing their election campaigns. Foreign policy all too is often based on corporate interests, with little understanding of long term ramifications.

The major news companies are now owned by big money interests, the only decent news south of the border is on PBS or NPR. People aren't given the opportunity to form opinions on things, they are fed how to feel and why. The majority of news programs fall back to expert panels, which extol their perception of the event based on their political lens.

I also with people who say that you make the best of the situation. If I lost my job tomorrow with little prospect of getting back in my field I would look at re-inventing myself. Sure it sucks and it isn't what you were promised, but life isn't always fair. I don't think this problem is generation specific, really aside from the heroes of ww2, has any generation in the last 70 years really faced an adversity? The economic situation right now is brand new to everyone in the work force, that's why the protesters from what I've seen are from almost every age group.

This protest movement need cohesion and specific goals if it intends to make any progress. Some elements protesting aren't seeing the big picture, I'm sorry but there are bigger fish to fry than GMO foods. I see this fizzling out in the short term, but the problems still exist. People are genuinely fed up with politics and the economy, how that translate into real change remains to be seen.

Its funny re-reading my post I noticed it lacks direction and cohesion on one issue much like the protests.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:59 PM   #128
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:11 PM   #129
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Everyone always does the best with what they have. On the whole, today's under 25 people are really no different than any other generation.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:24 PM   #131
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Everyone always does the best with what they have. On the whole, today's under 25 people are really no different than any other generation.
Wrong, every generation is noticably lazier than the previous. By the time I die, young people will have degraded into lazy money sucking blobs, which we'll keep alive with a ventilator because they'll be far too lazy to breath using their own energy.
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This is wrong on so many levels, the first being that this is a ripoff of an American protest of American problems. We're doing fine in Canada let alone Calgary.

I've seen the 99% poster people. Really sad stories, Americans working in areas like IT, trades for 30 years got laid off and can barely pay the bills. That wouldn't happen here.

If you want to protest in Calgary protest a real issue like human trafficking.

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Old 10-11-2011, 08:30 PM   #133
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Wrong, every generation is noticably lazier than the previous. By the time I die, young people will have degraded into lazy money sucking blobs, which we'll keep alive with a ventilator because they'll be far too lazy to breath using their own energy.
And those money sucking blobs will demand starting salaries of $2+ million per year to play virtual farmville.
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This is wrong on so many levels, the first being that this is a ripoff of an American protest of American problems. We're doing fine in Canada let alone Calgary.

I've seen the 99% poster people. Really sad stories, Americans working in areas like IT, trades for 30 years got laid off and can barely pay the bills. That wouldn't happen here.

If you want to protest in Calgary protest a real issue like human trafficking.



To be fair whatever happens in America spills over the border and it sometimes takes time to work through the system but it is all inter-connected. America is over 50% of the world economy and Canada is around 3% so there is reason to pay attention to what happens there. I guess you could say their problems become our problems and although things are ok here now economically Canada is still a tall midget economically when you put things to scale. What makes you so sure that wouldn't happen here? Maybe these protestors are ahead of the curve and are offering a wake up call
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:44 PM   #135
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And those money sucking blobs will demand starting salaries of $2+ million per year to play virtual farmville.
Salaries? I figure we will setup trust funds so they can lay around all the time.

I find myself falling into the younger generation is lazy/entitled trap sometimes. It's complete nonsense, this complaint goes all the way back to ancient greece.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:54 PM   #136
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Wrong, every generation is noticably lazier than the previous. By the time I die, young people will have degraded into lazy money sucking blobs, which we'll keep alive with a ventilator because they'll be far too lazy to breath using their own energy.
Reminds me of a movie i've seen.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #137
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Bah, rants of lame old men around here.

I'll talk about one reason specifically why the younger generation is pissed off and should be upset about the way things are going:

Entry level salaries for University grads are not rising proportionately to cost of living, while CEO's salaries are increasing exponentially.

Think about the cost of a house. In the 80's, you old farts probably bought your brand new baby for 2-3x your base salary (my father personally made 35K and paid 67K for his house).

Now, us on the other hand are looking at 4x-5x the amount on a normal entry level salary and that's for a ****ty condo. More people than ever are getting stuck in the renter's rut, unless they are married / have generous parents.
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Cbc just ran a story. Here is a gem of a quote.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...p.html?cmp=rss

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“I am here to help everybody. I have to do what I feel is best for everybody concerned and when I look at the world and the way we live. We're not doing what is best for everybody.”

So basically unicorns for everyone.
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