09-27-2011, 04:17 PM
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#121
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Parallex
A: It wouldn't be sneaky,
B: It would be building within the means and budget... the extra 1% increases both.
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Calling a 1% tax penny tax is sneaky. Oh, it's only a 1% penny tax, so the GST must be a dime tax. Call it what it is, don't insult my intelligence.
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09-27-2011, 04:23 PM
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#122
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Quote:
Originally Posted by darklord700
Calling a 1% tax penny tax is sneaky. Oh, it's only a 1% penny tax, so the GST must be a dime tax. Call it what it is, don't insult my intelligence.
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a nickel for your thoughts. or your intelligence.
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09-27-2011, 04:28 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy
You must support things like toll booths on the Deerfoot and other major thoroughfares such as Stoney Trail (Ring Road) and every huge interchange at the entrance of each new suburb in Calgary.
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Sure, thought I don't see how roads (necessity) are comparable to opera houses or arenas (not).
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09-27-2011, 06:17 PM
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#124
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
a nickel for your thoughts. or your intelligence.
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You can call the GST a nickel tax, if that makes you feel better when you pay it.
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09-27-2011, 06:37 PM
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#125
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by Daradon
Yeah, I believe both Klein and Duerr had very high ratings until they left. It was really only Bronco who's ratings dipped and may have influenced his longevity.
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47% in 2010.
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09-27-2011, 09:36 PM
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#126
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by darklord700
Calling a 1% tax penny tax is sneaky.
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Okey, if you want to think that a 1% consumption tax levy, that has made the news and would be voted on in a public plebiscite, is "sneaky" simply because it's being metaphorically referred to as something else that constitutes 1% then go right ahead. Sneaky implies subterfuge and it obviously isn't... it's just a colloquial term for the concept. Lighten up yo.
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09-27-2011, 10:12 PM
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#127
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Basement Chicken Choker
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Democracy at it's purest is user fees. If you want something pay for it (by going there). If you don't, don't.
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No, that's capitalism. Democracy is something completely different.
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09-27-2011, 11:55 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by flameswin
Why is that? How would it be any different than him saying what he feels on any other platform? It's not like Nenshi would sign up here and start trolling or saying things that he wouldn't want people to see.  |
I'd think he'd want to partipate in the forum to get a sense of the public's mood without having to take questions, defend positions, take criticism, etc. He'd come on here and probably would never post, if he came on at all. He may already be here. Maybe I'm Nenshi. 
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09-27-2011, 11:58 PM
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#129
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I'd think he'd want to partipate in the forum to get a sense of the public's mood without having to take questions, defend positions, take criticism, etc. He'd come on here and probably would never post, if he came on at all. He may already be here. Maybe I'm Nenshi. |
Oh, that makes sense. It would be amazing if he did sign up and chat from time to time in civic issue threads, though. CP's the number one site for Calgary related discussion, imo.
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09-28-2011, 12:28 AM
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#130
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I've been out of province for a while, but correct me if I'm wrong: This penny tax is a 1% tax on services? Can municipalities even do that?
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09-28-2011, 06:45 AM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by jammies
No, that's capitalism. Democracy is something completely different.
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Right, forgot. It's a tyranny of the majority of fools. 
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09-28-2011, 04:51 PM
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#133
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Nenshi spoke today at the AUMA conference in Calgary today and totally hammered Garry Mar.
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09-28-2011, 06:03 PM
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#134
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
Nenshi spoke today at the AUMA conference in Calgary today and totally hammered Garry Mar.
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Lucky I wasn't there or I would have totally hammered Nenshi. Mar says no taxes, Nenshi says more taxes. Easy choice.
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09-28-2011, 06:31 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
Nenshi spoke today at the AUMA conference in Calgary today and totally hammered Garry Mar.
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What did he have to say? Was it for decent reasons and things that were policy driven as far as municipalities go?
I wouldn't want another battle between the premier and mayor....
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09-28-2011, 06:51 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by darklord700
Lucky I wasn't there or I would have totally hammered Nenshi. Mar says no taxes, Nenshi says more taxes. Easy choice.
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Not really. Mar clarified his position.
http://t.co/TAealZvx
Keep in mind that new sources of revenue are needed for CAPITAL not operating. So if we are ever in the next century going to build the SE LRT for instance new revenue is needed. That or the City will have to keep going begging cap in hand all the time, and that benefits no one.
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09-28-2011, 07:01 PM
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#137
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary
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I forgot, the Dark Lord does not pay taxes.
Muahahaha
 yeah, that was bad....
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09-28-2011, 07:10 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by darklord700
Lucky I wasn't there or I would have totally hammered Nenshi. Mar says no taxes, Nenshi says more taxes. Easy choice.
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So if the mayor decided to freeze or reduce property taxes, what city services should be reduced or axed? Police, fire, libraries, roads, parks, sanitation, etc.?
Nenshi has already gone to city departments and asked them to find inefficiencies so tax increases could be kept to a minimum. Comparing the province to the city is like comparing apples to oranges. Different sources of revenue with different challenges.
Sure, reduce property taxes, but realize that the result would be less services.
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09-28-2011, 07:37 PM
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#139
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by darklord700
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Value-added taxes are actually a critical component of an optimized tax bucket, but don't let sound economics get in the way of conservative rhetoric.
Also, Mar's signature looks like a five year old's.
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09-28-2011, 09:18 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang
So if the mayor decided to freeze or reduce property taxes, what city services should be reduced or axed? Police, fire, libraries, roads, parks, sanitation, etc.?
Nenshi has already gone to city departments and asked them to find inefficiencies so tax increases could be kept to a minimum. Comparing the province to the city is like comparing apples to oranges. Different sources of revenue with different challenges.
Sure, reduce property taxes, but realize that the result would be less services.
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Yes, the other big difference is the City is not allowed to run a deficit.
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