Scarface to be remade

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Montana was convincing enough, I was more refering to characters like Frank Lopez, played by a white, American, red-headed actor, just given an awful orange tan and painfully fake accent. Doesn't grind my gears or anything, I like this movie in all its cheese. I just think 30 years later, you should probably go a little more legit and hire real Latinos for Latino roles. No need to go blackface anymore (or orangeface).

There are lots of white people from Cuba. Lopez is also supposed to be a Jewish immigrant to Cuba who later immigrated to the USA. So you would expect him to be relatively white skinned. Robert Loggia, the Italian American actor who played Frank Lopez, did a bang up job in my opinion. He's also of 100% sicilian descent, which doesn't exactly make him the pale face you describe him as.

I would say the only questionable casting in terms of ethnicity/race was Al Pacino himself. Although his acting job was so great, although at times over the top, it's hard to argue with the results.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I like it when Scarface is on TV and the profanity is edited out. My favourite line in the movie becomes "you see this? You don't get a scar like that from eating pineapple"

Forget You!

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by pylon

Agreed, Carlito's way is one of my all time favorite gangster movies. From when the mobsters showed up at his nightclub to whack him, and the end, it was probably some of the most tense 20 minutes of film ever. Donnie Brasco was awesome as well. Both those films were unreal.

From a performance standpoint, Pacino was far better in both than Scarface. I think a big part of the appeal of the film is the guy appeal and over the top violence. Most women don't get Sacrface.

If you are picking movies about drug dealers, I would say Blow was actually better.

Just reading through this thread and seeing some all-time gang/drug movies being brought up. Scarface is a classic but in a much different way than those ones, it doesn't even belong in the same category with movies like Donnie Brasco/Goodfellas. Those are all-time classic (Goodfellas anyway), serious gangster movies. What makes Scarface a classic is all the early 80's cheese, there's definitely a lot of unintentional humour in it. It's got that fun replayability factor because of it. And thus it belongs on a list of "personal comfort movies" as opposed to those other gang movies brought up.

And as someone else mentioned, I have no idea why Scarface is so revered in the urban/hip hop community, like Tony Montana is who everyone should strive to be. That's so hilariously stupid. Whenever I walk into Spencer's or places like that, and they have those big, framed portraits of Tony Montana with like a mounted gun or something at the bottom, I laugh so hard. I just picture some dude in Ed Hardy gear hanging that behind his couch, thinkin he's a baller.

[Sainters7]

If you are picking movies about drug dealers, I would say Blow was actually better.

haha totally forgot that this was the main reason I quoted your post in the first place in my above post, and I forgot to even mention it. Blow was a great movie. It's too bad it came out at pretty much the same time as Traffic, which got way more hype/audience numbers. They're both about drugs, but the similarity stops there. Blow's no all-time classic or anything, but it should've been a bigger movie than it turned out to be.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by pylon

Agreed, Carlito's way is one of my all time favorite gangster movies. From when the mobsters showed up at his nightclub to whack him, and the end, it was probably some of the most tense 20 minutes of film ever. Donnie Brasco was awesome as well. Both those films were unreal.

From a performance standpoint, Pacino was far better in both than Scarface. I think a big part of the appeal of the film is the guy appeal and over the top violence. Most women don't get Sacrface.

If you are picking movies about drug dealers, I would say Blow was actually better.

Layercake.

[troutman]

Rush was a good movie about drug dealers and under-cover cops.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by blankall

There are lots of white people from Cuba. Lopez is also supposed to be a Jewish immigrant to Cuba who later immigrated to the USA. So you would expect him to be relatively white skinned. Robert Loggia, the Italian American actor who played Frank Lopez, did a bang up job in my opinion. He's also of 100% sicilian descent, which doesn't exactly make him the pale face you describe him as.

They say hes a Jewish immigrant? I must've missed that part before. Haha why'd they make his last name Lopez then, and make him talk with a Cuban accent? Not saying youre wrong, just that it doesnt ad up. And yep there are lots of white people in the Caribbean, what with all the Spanish/Portuguese colonization back in the day. I just think with the name/deep tan/accent they gave him, white isnt what they were going for with these characters.

I think he did a good job too, im just commenting on the cheesiness of casting all these white American actors in these roles, you can tell its from 30 years ago. I just always found it funny. I don't think they'd take that approach anymore.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by troutman

Rush was a good movie about drug dealers and under-cover cops.

Narc was also quite good as well.

But, really The Wire has them all beat.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by shermanator

I love how the tags in this thread can be put together to make a quote from the movie. It's like a little puzzle!

That wasn't by design, but I think it works better that way.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I like it when Scarface is on TV and the profanity is edited out. My favourite line in the movie becomes "you see this? You don't get a scar like that from eating pineapple"

"This is paradise, I'm tellin' ya. This town like a great big chicken jus' waitin' to get plucked."

[Sainters7]

Lesbian!

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by troutman

This is the tale of Tony Montana
Cubano flame with the Miami nuts
(Take it home!)
Got a basehead wife
But her womb is polluted
This whole town's a #####
Just waiting to get #####ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI6CfKcMhjY

one of the funniest SNL skits ever.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

haha totally forgot that this was the main reason I quoted your post in the first place in my above post, and I forgot to even mention it. Blow was a great movie. It's too bad it came out at pretty much the same time as Traffic, which got way more hype/audience numbers. They're both about drugs, but the similarity stops there. Blow's no all-time classic or anything, but it should've been a bigger movie than it turned out to be.

Have you wathced Blow recently? I thought it was awesome when I first saw it 10 years ago, but I've seen it a couple of times recently and it's just not a very good flick.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Have you wathced Blow recently? I thought it was awesome when I first saw it 10 years ago, but I've seen it a couple of times recently and it's just not a very good flick.

Ya I watched it again over the summer, you're right, it's pretty mainstream/Hollywood and not nearly as powerful or good as I remember it being the first time around. I still like it though, its an easy watch (kinda like Scarface, no cinema classic but fun to watch). I'm just surprised with a cast like Depp/Cruz/Liotta that it pulled in such low $$$.