PC Leadership Race- Redford wins.

[jtfrogger]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

they need to get their act together because these results are way too slow coming out.

I would prefer they come out quicker, but does it really matter? They don't "need to get their act together".

[killer_carlson]

well if those twitter votes are accurate, mar won't need much to come over to get the 50 percent.

i wonder about horner though....does he walk from the race as well???

[killer_carlson]

the party is criticized with a perception that it is old. Electronic balloting would make the counting much faster.

[Bunk]

These are the results. All results in.

https://www.cmade.ca/events/election...fault.asp?pg=1

Mar with 41% will be difficult, if not impossible to overcome for Redford and Horner. Second place more than 20% behind.

[jtfrogger]

calgarysun Calgary Sun



@GaryMarPC (41%) @Alison4Premier (19%) and @Horner4Alberta (14%) are your top three for PC leader. Final vote runs Oct. 1. 87/87 #PCldr

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[First Lady]

https://www.cmade.ca/events/election...ault.asp?pg=66

G'night all.

[killer_carlson]

going to bed.

Thanks again for posting results everyone.

[killer_carlson]

Interesting night. Those are three good candidates. I'm surprised that one of the fiscal right (Morton/Orman) didn't get in the top 3 though.

[jtfrogger]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

the party is criticized with a perception that it is old. Electronic balloting would make the counting much faster.

Average voters don't pay too much attention to the leadership votes. Given that it isn't televised, I'd say that at least 99% of voters won't notice that it took them four hours after the polls closed to count the ballots. Most that do notice will forget by the time a real election comes around.

[Bunk]

Expect a snap election this fall since Mar doesn't sit in the Legislature.

[Jacks]

Pretty sad turnout, this party is fading. The Conservative base will bleed a bit (or a lot) to the WRA if they can field decent candidates next election. Tough to say where the left leaners will go, the Libs don't seem to be inspiring anybody, will the left leaners stay left or will they vote PC to stop the WRA from gaining? The Alberta PC's are basically Liberal in all but name at this point.

[Resolute 14]

As nice as that might be, it is impossible to say that the party is fading when their turnout is double the number of Wildrose members, and considered low.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

As nice as that might be, it is impossible to say that the party is fading when their turnout is double the number of Wildrose members, and considered low.

Definitely. When other parties are bringing out about 8-9000 to vote for leader (or the Alberta Party with about 1250) they have a long way to go.

The first ballot is basically meaningless for most people, so of course there are a lot of people who skip it entirely.

[Stay Golden]

Looks like Mar will get elected in 2 weeks.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

As nice as that might be, it is impossible to say that the party is fading when their turnout is double the number of Wildrose members, and considered low.

Apples and oranges. The leader of the Wildrose became the leader of a small fringe party, I think at the time they had one seat. The leader of the PC's automatically becomes the premier of a majority government for the next few years. The number of people voting in this race are down 40%, that's pretty significant.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Expect a snap election this fall since Mar doesn't sit in the Legislature.

I'm hearing he might have someone resign (Ron Liepert?) and run for that seat.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Apples and oranges. The leader of the Wildrose became the leader of a small fringe party, I think at the time they had one seat. The leader of the PC's automatically becomes the premier of a majority government for the next few years. The number of people voting in this race are down 40%, that's pretty significant.

It is, but at the same time, the last Environics poll I saw had the Tories up 20 points in July as compared to January, while the Liberal sand Wildrose took big hits. It will be interesting to see where it all settles once the leadership race push dies down.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

It will be interesting to see where it all settles once the leadership race push dies down.

That's what I'm waiting to see also. Parties tend to poll higher, from what I've seen, when they have no leader. We'll see what the numbers say a few months after a leader is chosen.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I'm hearing he might have someone resign (Ron Liepert?) and run for that seat.

If he is going to do that he should have Stelmach step down and run for his seat.
I do wonder what happens if the leader holds a by-election and loses. Does he keep trying or step aside and have another leadership race. It almost came to that in B.C. with Christy Clark.

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

If he is going to do that he should have Stelmach step down and run for his seat.
I do wonder what happens if the leader holds a by-election and loses. Does he keep trying or step aside and have another leadership race. It almost came to that in B.C. with Christy Clark.

Generally the leader would get parachuted into a pretty safe riding. If he did lose (e.g. Don Getty in 1989 general election) I imagine they'd try again, but it would certainly be a major blow to the party. I can't see it happening though.