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Old 09-11-2011, 09:07 PM   #181
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Yeah, the fact that there is a heavy photoshop component to the pictures really detracts from them IMHO.
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:21 PM   #182
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Also, the ####ed up, chilling, make me shiver and cry doc "102 minutes that changed the world" is on this sunday. I think CBC.

1st person footage of the events. So scary. First time I saw it I stopped about 15 minutes in because it was just too disturbing.
Watching this one right now..... omg. It's definitely a tough watch.

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Old 09-11-2011, 10:45 PM   #183
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I remember this, the big worry was that a lot of mistakes were going to happen that way.
Just saw a documentary tonight on the Korean Airlines flight into Whitehorse with some new info, very disturbing. The reason it was suspected to be hijacked was that they were transmitting a discrete code indicating a hijacking.

Turns out that some other US agency instructed the Anchorage Air traffic control unit to tell Korean to squawk the hijack code. The Air traffic control unit questioned this for 18 minutes, but finally carried out the order, and told Korean to put in that code.

So for some reason they were put into a situation that caused most of Whitehorse to evacuate, and could've led to that 747 getting shot down.

Extremely disturbing and suspicious.
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:55 PM   #184
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Watching this one right now..... omg. It's definitely a tough watch.

Sigh
Watching it now as well.

Disturbing.
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:37 PM   #185
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I'm watching a documentary that shows the first few days after the attacks. Absolutely heart breaking, and Manhatten becoming a virtual ghost town was almost frightening.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:44 AM   #186
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I'm watching a documentary that shows the first few days after the attacks. Absolutely heart breaking, and Manhatten becoming a virtual ghost town was almost frightening.
As Rudy Guliani pointed out in other comments yesterday, there are now twice as many people living in Manhattan today as was the case on September 11, 2001.

In the days and weeks after 9/11 there was a lot of panic selling of prime residences in Manhattan but that trend clearly reversed through the passage of time.

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Old 09-12-2011, 08:06 AM   #187
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As Rudy Guliani pointed out in other comments yesterday, there are now twice as many people living in Manhattan today as was the case on September 11, 2001.
That seems hard to believe. You sure he didn't just mean around the financial district?
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:38 AM   #188
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I watched that "102 Minutes" doc on CBC last night. Wow. Everyone should check that one out.

Too bad it doesn't seem to be available on the online player. All of the other 9/11 docs seem to be but not that one.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:45 AM   #189
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Its on youtube.
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I had never seen the second plane hit from that view before. In the apartment with the two young ladies screaming in horror. Just seemed to make it worse.
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That seems hard to believe. You sure he didn't just mean around the financial district?
Lower Manhattan: http://www.dnainfo.com/20110324/down...opulation-boom

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Re: population increase. It's also in last week's Economist.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:55 AM   #193
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Lower Manhattan
That's more like it. I could see that...a lot of new stuff has been built around there the last decade.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:58 AM   #194
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That's more like it. I could see that...a lot of new stuff has been built around there the last decade.
Exactly, that census growth of 97% was for Battery Park and Financial district. Overall Manhattan growth over the last decade was ~3% (per link above), which a heck of a lot more believable.
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I had never seen the second plane hit from that view before. In the apartment with the two young ladies screaming in horror. Just seemed to make it worse.
Didn't mean to thank that post.... was trying to quote it.

But yes, the clip of them in their apartment was so messed up. Uggg.

Or all the people trying to justify that the tower didn't collapse, it was just hidden in all the smoke.

Or the kid at the end asking his parents why the building disappeared. God damn, real tough to watch.
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:03 PM   #196
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The toughest thing to watch to this day is the people jumping from the building, especially the two holding hands as they plunged.
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I've never seen that movie before today, so thank you for posting it. Got to agree with you that has to be the most intense 5 minutes of any movie I've ever seen.
Intense to watch, I'll say. Imagine those poor people who were there. RIP.
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:37 PM   #198
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I watched several hours of documentaries over the last week, including a re run of the actual events as they happened.

I also watched the very depressing flight 93 movie after all of that.

I'm still amazed at the emotions that still hit you when you are watching these events happen and seeing the interviews with the people 10 years later.

One of the interviews was with a 10 year old boy who's dad went into WTC 1 and was never seen again, it was heart breaking to see this boy trying to be so brave and so proud of his father, then suddenly breaking down.

Or a woman who was on the phone with her trapped husband, and she said to him "Its time to say good bye, and she talked to him as she heard the building coming down around them.

Watching the last five minutes of Flight 93 when they went after the terrorists and I cheered them as they beat down those scum bags, and forced the plane to spin into the ground, I still feel a lot of anger towards the terrorists to this day, they were completely corrupt and evil men, and I'm sure they were surprised when they had to explain their deeds to their god.
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Listened to some 911 calls while watching the documentaries last night.
I have not read much of this thread, forgive me if it's been mentioned.

I think her name was Melanie Doi, she was on 86th floor or something. Half way through her call she realized her life was about to end. Then the guy who's call ends as the tower collapses beneath him (103 ? Floor).

Sad.
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Featured on 60 Minutes Last Night:



"We're Not Leaving" is a compilation of powerful first-person narratives told from the vantage point of World Trade Center disaster workers-police officers, firefighters, construction workers, and other volunteers at the site. While the effects of 9/11 on these everyday heroes and heroines are indelible, and in some cases have been devastating, at the heart of their deeply personal stories-their harrowing escapes from the falling Towers, the egregious environment they worked in for months, the alarming health effects they continue to deal with-is their witness to their personal strength and renewal in the ten years since. These stories, shared by ordinary people who responded to disaster and devastation in extraordinary ways, remind us of America's strength and inspire us to recognize and ultimately believe in our shared values of courage, duty, patriotism, self-sacrifice, and devotion, which guide us in dark times.

9/11 is still killing and haunting people.
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