That Place is Still Open?

[ken0042]

Might be thinking of Hardee's- as they are the same franchise.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Might be thinking of Hardee's- as they are the same franchise.

And they are both terrible.

[saskflames69]

never mind yeah it was hardees

[Champion]

Originally Posted by oly74

You must be thinking of another place, because there are no Carl's Jr locations in North Dakota (they are mostly along the west coast). That and Carl's Jr is awesome!

http://www.carlsjr.com/locations

My cousin is set to be the first guy to open it in Edmonton. Costs a lot of money (just over 1 Million). I have never had it in the States.

[Champion]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Sweet! Any idea where the location will be? I'd guess South Common, or possibly West Ed.

I'll find out. Fat Burger is also looking to open up in the West end. Looking for a franchisee right now.

[Mango]

There's a Mr. Sub on 16th Ave at about 6th Street in the NE. It sort of looks like an old house with a large pointed brown roof. I've never seen more than one car there.

[SeeBass]

Don't set the bar too high on Carl's Jr guys it is good after a few days in Puerto Vallarta when you are dying for some gringo food but with Fat,Five and good independants in the city now it is not good enough to be considered an oasis for a great burger.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by macker

Calaway Park.....location was always a big question mark and when we go the kids like it but always come home feeling sick as 90% of the rides aren't nescessarily fun but just make you dizzy. Besides the rollercoaster and log ride which are ok, I guess, are there any other rides there that people enjoy? 30 years in business though?

That log ride was hell on everyone.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by macker

Lloyds Roller Rink.....took the kids there recently and realized I hadn't been in that place for 25-30 years....long wait for a repeat customer Remember the days of Lloyds battling it out with Rollerland and Lloyds ultimately winning out. Used to have a video screen and would play videos to the songs that were pumping out but sadly it is not there anymore, likely based on safety issues. Still have the DJ that the kids have fun going up to and requesting songs. Guess it is where you go when you can't find public skating at any of the rinks for the kids...

Did Lloyds used to be Hollywood Roller Gardens?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Mango

There's a Mr. Sub on 16th Ave at about 6th Street in the NE. It sort of looks like an old house with a large pointed brown roof. I've never seen more than one car there.

Yeah, it has the biggest parking lot size to number of cars in the parking lot ratio of any business in the city.

That is some prime real estate, I can't believe more hasn't been done with that land. Although, the same could be said for all the land on the south side of 16th east of Edmonton Trail. Now that the expansion of 16th is done, I expect something to be done...but the work has been done for quite a while.

[ranchlandsselling]

A few things
1. Someone mentioned Sears - if you're thinking about the 16th ave location at Northill - the reason that store is still there and looks that way is Sears owns the land. So it's not you're typical retail shop where
a. the landlord is going to find the best tenant or whoever will pay the most rent
b. the landlord isn't going to offer tenant improvements to fix up the space to land a great tenant or a tenant pay a high rate with improvements accounted for.

2. Old malls like deerfoot, or that awful zellers off bow bottom.
a. Deerfoot mall is going to be totally re-developed and semi-de-malled. They've got walmart in there and a lot should be changed over the next few years to improve it.
b. Other malls like sunridge and why their still in existence. The old layout of malls was an anchor (bay, zellers, sears, woodwards, etc.) at either end of the mall, they'd sign an outrageously cheap rate and the rest of the mall would survive based on traffic from these monster dept. stores. Some of these leases are for a few bucks, a sq. ft. vs. the $25 - $50 they'd get now (for space that large), smaller tenant mall space is obscenely expensive. These leases go on for 20-30 more years at these rates with renewal options in favour of the tenants. That's why Zellers was able to sell some stores. The business is worth DICK ALL, but the lease, which in a sense is a liability they have to pay, is actually an incredible asset because "good luck getting that lease rate in Market Mall, or etc." Some of these retails will stay open in a mall, even if their store loses money and will re-open close by, just because they have a dirt cheap lease rate and they don't want to leave and let someone else open in there. Some poor malls have even died because a tenant like Walmart may open a new store down the street if better space becomes available and just go dark in the old location but still pay the bills. It's better for them to pay the bills, not let a competitor in the spot and just lose money on that location. Sunridge mall is never going under (at least not anytime soon) because they've got plenty of tenants in there that will pay to be in there and their major anchor tenants are paying the bills and will continue to do so becaues their space is that cheap. The owner of the mall is making money on that, paying the bills perfectly fine.

Finally radio shack, they closed the US, or at least circuit city went bankrupt and I remember reading an interview from the CEO who pretty much said the Canadian Radio Shack does well, he has no idea why and how, but it makes decent money for some reason. hahaha. It was pretty funny!

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Mango

There's a Mr. Sub on 16th Ave at about 6th Street in the NE. It sort of looks like an old house with a large pointed brown roof. I've never seen more than one car there.

I've mentioned that Mr. Sub the Grinds my Gears thread before... it's a funny little place. Never more then one person there, and a massive parking lot, just huge for the location and the store.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

A few things
1. Someone mentioned Sears - if you're thinking about the 16th ave location at Northill - the reason that store is still there and looks that way is Sears owns the land. So it's not you're typical retail shop where
a. the landlord is going to find the best tenant or whoever will pay the most rent
b. the landlord isn't going to offer tenant improvements to fix up the space to land a great tenant or a tenant pay a high rate with improvements accounted for.

If that's the case, North Hill Mall should border up the entrance.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Flames89

M&M Meat Shops

What's wrong with M&M meats?

[The Familia]

Anyone remember that hot dog stand that used to be in Northhill Mall? I think it used to be called Sailor Steamer Hot Dogs...Used to get a hot dog after going to the dentist in that mall as a kid.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by The Familia

Anyone remember that hot dog stand that used to be in Northhill Mall? I think it used to be called Sailor Steamer Hot Dogs...Used to get a hot dog after going to the dentist in that mall as a kid.

Yeah they also had one on 16th Ave near Peters.

It closed and then was taken over by one of the worst fast food ideas ever - it was a little place that sold burgers and non-alcoholic beer. It was called the "Ice and Burg" or something like that.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

It closed and then was taken over by one of the worst fast food ideas ever - it was a little place that sold burgers and non-alcoholic beer. It was called the "Ice and Burg" or something like that.

You hear things like "worst idea ever", and you think to yourself, it's probably not so bad. Then you hear "Ice and Burg" and you understand that no, you weren't exaggerating.

[Sylvanfan]

It's not a business, but does anyone on CP under the age of 65 drive a Buick? Have you even considered buying a new Buick? Supposedly they are making decent vehicles these days, but does anyone care? The 80's and to 2007 destroyed that brand.

[Dan02]

Philly06Cup's account...

[THE SCUD]

Actually the reason target had nothing to do with the lease value but as a way to NOT acqure the Zellers union.

Also, you greatly eggagerate the lease value of an anvhor. AAA space downtown goes for 20-30 sqft.

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

A few things
1. Someone mentioned Sears - if you're thinking about the 16th ave location at Northill - the reason that store is still there and looks that way is Sears owns the land. So it's not you're typical retail shop where
a. the landlord is going to find the best tenant or whoever will pay the most rent
b. the landlord isn't going to offer tenant improvements to fix up the space to land a great tenant or a tenant pay a high rate with improvements accounted for.

2. Old malls like deerfoot, or that awful zellers off bow bottom.
a. Deerfoot mall is going to be totally re-developed and semi-de-malled. They've got walmart in there and a lot should be changed over the next few years to improve it.
b. Other malls like sunridge and why their still in existence. The old layout of malls was an anchor (bay, zellers, sears, woodwards, etc.) at either end of the mall, they'd sign an outrageously cheap rate and the rest of the mall would survive based on traffic from these monster dept. stores. Some of these leases are for a few bucks, a sq. ft. vs. the $25 - $50 they'd get now (for space that large), smaller tenant mall space is obscenely expensive. These leases go on for 20-30 more years at these rates with renewal options in favour of the tenants. That's why Zellers was able to sell some stores. The business is worth DICK ALL, but the lease, which in a sense is a liability they have to pay, is actually an incredible asset because "good luck getting that lease rate in Market Mall, or etc." Some of these retails will stay open in a mall, even if their store loses money and will re-open close by, just because they have a dirt cheap lease rate and they don't want to leave and let someone else open in there. Some poor malls have even died because a tenant like Walmart may open a new store down the street if better space becomes available and just go dark in the old location but still pay the bills. It's better for them to pay the bills, not let a competitor in the spot and just lose money on that location. Sunridge mall is never going under (at least not anytime soon) because they've got plenty of tenants in there that will pay to be in there and their major anchor tenants are paying the bills and will continue to do so becaues their space is that cheap. The owner of the mall is making money on that, paying the bills perfectly fine.

Finally radio shack, they closed the US, or at least circuit city went bankrupt and I remember reading an interview from the CEO who pretty much said the Canadian Radio Shack does well, he has no idea why and how, but it makes decent money for some reason. hahaha. It was pretty funny!