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Old 09-11-2011, 12:52 PM   #21
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I'm sure that's what they'd always say, although I'm sure the police had other ideas. The fact that there wasn't an unmarked police car watching the house is insane.
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:56 PM   #22
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I may be in the minority, but did anyone else find the father's behaviour weird during this whole case? Not saying he is a suspect. I don't have children, but if i did, there is no way I would be able to face the media so non-challantly. For pete's sake, your child is gone, show some emotion. Very interesting.
I had a young family member kidnapped and held for ransom about 15 years. He was found relatively unharmed (he was tied up and gagged in a trunk of a car) by the police. The kidnappers turned out to be a bunch of punks (young offenders) that took a robbery too far. If I had to describe myself during that episode, it would be dispassionate. Some people are like that.

It would (and should) draw the attention of investigators but by itself, shouldn't be taken as evidence of anything barring any other information.
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:58 PM   #23
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From the RCMP Cpl Dan Moskaluk's twitter

"Call of support and prayers to Hebert family from Mississipi today, dad of 18 kids,his hardship and poverty nothing compared to Heberts pain"

At what point in time would someone decide enough is enough and to have a vasectomy.

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I was talking to a friend at work today about this. I feel that in this case... if they do wind up catching the guy they should go very lenient. If they caught the perp and there was no sexual abuse, I say treat him with kid gloves. If you still throw the book at him this sets a bad example for future kidnappings where a childs release could possibly be deterred.
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Kids normally learn to talk within the first two years. Three-year olds definitely normally talk.
I have five kids, four who are three years old or over, so feel somewhat qualified to reply to this.

Two of my children hardly spoke at three years old. They were both in speech therapy. There's no real reason for this, it can just happen.
So for the parents to say the three year old doesn't talk is not that far out of the realms of possibility.

I'll just add that it's wonderful news that the child was returned. Incredible really as usually it doesn't end well.



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Old 09-11-2011, 01:54 PM   #26
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I woke up expecting news of a truck bomb going off in NYC somewhere. Instead I turn on the TV and this occurs. Then the Colts lose. If the Riders win, I think this might be the definition of a perfect day.
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Old 09-11-2011, 02:05 PM   #27
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I woke up expecting news of a truck bomb going off in NYC somewhere. Instead I turn on the TV and this occurs. Then the Colts lose. If the Riders win, I think this might be the definition of a perfect day.
What about the baby Flames?
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This never happens. Unbelievable.
Which is why the police aren't watching the victims' house.

The day before, the victims' mother said she wasn't too worried the guy would hurt her son, which I also thought was pretty odd.

And so far, the guy they think did it is just a suspect. It might be all up to the kid to identify him now.

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Old 09-11-2011, 02:21 PM   #29
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One of your children is abducted from your home, and you don't begin locking the doors at 3:00am after that? Did the alleged abductor break into the home to return the child, or does he know about that secret emergency key under the reddish rock in the herb garden?
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Old 09-11-2011, 03:08 PM   #30
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I agree that there is something fishy about this. First, the child disappeared from a house with 7 other kids and two adults. Then the RCMP almost automatically knew who took the kid, even though this Hopley guy is supposedly a complete stranger to the child and to the family. Then the child is returned (unharmed hopefully) - right back to the house without anyone seeing anything, and the suspect disappears.

If this was a movie I'd be rolling my eyes at the unlikleyhood of it all.
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Not a fan of the lying to the public thing that is obviously going on. Unless the story comes out.

Almost like they made up parts of the story to make it qualify for Amber Alert and to get media attention. i.e. they allowed semi-######ed odd job guy take the kid to the park and he never came back because he's semi-######ed.
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I may be in the minority, but did anyone else find the father's behaviour weird during this whole case? Not saying he is a suspect. I don't have children, but if i did, there is no way I would be able to face the media so non-challantly. For pete's sake, your child is gone, show some emotion. Very interesting.
These three posts more or less sum up my thoughts. I couldn't believe when I saw the father interviewed and he was acting like this was just another event. I have no idea how I would react (and hope to never find out) but I would be distraught without question!

I think there's more to this though. Like I quoted they knew immediately who did this, and he managed to get right back into town to drop off the child? If an old brown Camry pulled up beside me I'd have been taking a peek, nevermind the people in Sparwood! The guy was either hiding right by or someone was hiding him.

I'm definitely happy the kid is back and seems safe and sound. I will be interested to see what happens now though and if there are new developments now that the child is safe.
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One of your children is abducted from your home, and you don't begin locking the doors at 3:00am after that?
After a plea to have the child returned- no. I would leave my door open in hopes that the child is brought back.

My remaining childrens' doors- locked tight.

As it turns out- not locking the door was the right thing to do. So why is everybody after him for doing what ended up being the right thing?
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I don't think they were home anyways, so it doesn't really matter if it was locked or not. The RCMP still should have had someone on the house, especially in the wake of the plea.
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:29 PM   #33
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As it turns out- not locking the door was the right thing to do. So why is everybody after him for doing what ended up being the right thing?
It's great that the kid is found and safe, but this entire thing smells fishy to me. Maybe I've become jaded.
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It's great that the kid is found and safe, but this entire thing smells fishy to me. Maybe I've become jaded.
I agree.
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Yeah, the family wasn't staying at home, they were a few houses away when he was returned at 3am, apparently.
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Balloon boy, part two?
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Everybody deals with stress differently. Judging the father based on our interpretation of how he looked is silly. Mindreading doesn't work super well with anyone, especially strangers.
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There was also another attempted abduction earlier in the day & the suspect has a long track record for these sorts of things.
Pretty key indicators that this isn't just some balloon boy event.
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Which is why the police aren't watching the victims' house.

The day before, the victims' mother said she wasn't too worried the guy would hurt her son, which I also thought was pretty odd.

And so far, the guy they think did it is just a suspect. It might be all up to the kid to identify him now.

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I know the suspect's mother said that her son wouldn't hurt the boy. Perhaps that's who you heard.
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I have five kids, four who are three years old or over, so feel somewhat qualified to reply to this.

Two of my children hardly spoke at three years old. They were both in speech therapy. There's no real reason for this, it can just happen.
So for the parents to say the three year old doesn't talk is not that far out of the realms of possibility.

I'll just add that it's wonderful news that the child was returned. Incredible really as usually it doesn't end well.
Yeah, and of course "doesn't talk" or "can't speak" means a lot of different things.
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