Chocolate New Orleans

[CarlW]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Either your 6, and live in the woods, being raised by wild rabbits... or you're just trying to post something for the sake of posting it.

I have seriously never heard the term Honky before. And I don't see how that makes me a 6 year old, wild rabbit kid that bocks and lays chocolate easter eggs.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Imagine if, after that, he won.

Like I said, should be interesting to see if he keeps up the rhetoric, and how he does in re-election.

If New Orleans at the end of the day is "chocolate" there is no doubt that he will be re-elected.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by CarlW

I have seriously never heard the term Honky before. And I don't see how that makes me a 6 year old, wild rabbit kid that bocks and lays chocolate easter eggs.

Well... I guess thats just my opinion...

Either way, Mrs. Clinton is getting in on the act, now offending Black people by saying that "The bush administration runs the house like a plantation"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/...ion/index.html

Don't really know what to think of that.... Its not clear cut like the chocolate comment... hmm...

[Delthefunky]

Dumbass Mayor is one thing, Dumbass President of the USA is another

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Its not only people you know... its common place all over TV. But its allowed because its only against "white" people. God.. imagine someone presenting to an exec "White Entertainment Television".

I really don't make a huge deal of this.. but it just irks me.

The only thing I really have huge problems with is the race card when cops kill someone who isn't white. Damn that drives me crazy.

* PS: I know most will say "All TV stations are WET" I'm just trying to say that it would never happen... nor should it.

Holy crap some white people are sensitive..they have history on their side...i mean, you can't be suggesting that police brutality due to race hasn't ever happened, its been well documented. I mean really, considering slavery and all the rest of it, shouldn't they be allowed to get away with something rediculous like BET?? Don't white people owe them that much? I mean its not really racist, they are trying to rebuild a culture from the ashes of their turbulent past...its an expression of unity within the community, playing music and stuff..its not like they spew racism on it...i mean, if white people were marginalized for generations, maybe they'd deserve a few exceptions here and there. It's not like these things really threaten the security and well being of white existence. Relax.

By the way, Nagin's comments are assinine.

[Jayems]

Oh don't worry, Im totally relaxed... thats why i said i don't make a huge deal about it. Nor does it even really bother me... Ive started to find the humour in it

Alllll im saying is its quickly becoming a double standard.

Edit (Forgot to say) In regards to brutality.. yes race has played a part.. but not every single incident... like some would have you believe.

BTW:

Is rebuilding a culture from their ashes of their turbulent past by marginalizing other ethnicities really productive?

I really don't want to get into it like that stupid australian debate a few weeks back.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Delthefunky

Dumbass Mayor is one thing, Dumbass President of the USA is another

One is the subject of this thread, one is not. So thanks for adding absolutely nothing to the discussion!

[Delthefunky]

My bad, what I was replying to was Cow's post #2 Re: Mayor & Schoolbuses. Just thinking about Bush and the lack of domestic aid available thanks to the war in Iraq.

In his speech, Nagin also said "God is mad at America," in part because he does not approve "of us being in Iraq under false pretenses."

"He is sending hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it is destroying and putting stress on this country," Nagin said.

[Ozy_Flame]

In his speech, Nagin also said "God is mad at America," in part because he does not approve "of us being in Iraq under false pretenses."

"He is sending hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it is destroying and putting stress on this country," Nagin said.

Good grief, that's exactly what al-Queda said a couple of months ago. That makes Nagin's comments even more surprising.

I personally fail to see a connection between these two events (Katrina and Iraq) unless you're talking about Bush not being able to handle either one, but that's a different arguement for a different time.

[Cowperson]

Just thinking about Bush and the lack of domestic aid available thanks to the war in Iraq.

That really has nothing to do with it.

As I've argued in other threads at the time, in the days leading into Katrina - with warning - and the day afterwards, it's the local authorities and their preventative idisaster planning - the core of which is to anticipate and engage - which is the most important in saving lives.

They failed miserably, leaving the infirm, old and injured and the poorest behind, and more people than needed to died as a result. That's Mayor Nagin not GW Bush.

That doesn't excuse the delayed FEMA response in the days afterwards which amplified a festering disaster and led to even more deaths but it would be hard to deny this is one Mayor who is trying to put on a suit of teflon to dodge his role.

The resources were there. He didn't have an effective plan to use them.

On the issue of black racists, as I've argued before, not all the racists in the world are White Anglo-Saxon Protestants (Wasps). Frankly, I don't know why contemporary white's should have to sit back and take it just like I don't know why any German 25 and under should feel guilty about the Holocaust. I certainly don't feel guilty about Mississippi Burning. If its a racist, black or white or yellow, then call it.

Cowperson

[KevanGuy]

I heard on the news this morning he has taken back all the God comments. Said they were inappropriate. The interesting thing is....did the news leave out an apology for the 'chocolate' part or did Nagin leave it out. Guess I'll have to check it out.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

I heard on the news this morning he has taken back all the God comments. Said they were inappropriate. The interesting thing is....did the news leave out an apology for the 'chocolate' part or did Nagin leave it out. Guess I'll have to check it out.

The media did...he addressed it directly.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/nagin.city/index.html

[Flame On]

I saw a follow up question by a journolist who asked about the Chocolate statement. He asked the questioner "do you know anything about chocolate" "it's made by taking dark chocolate and mixing it with white milk to make something that's really good". I don't know if that's genuine or the follow up was a back peddle, some pretty poor judgement though.
There's enough of that to go around too though.

[KevanGuy]

Thanks for the link tranny. I guess ol' QR didn't feel like getting into the whole race thing.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Flame On

I saw a follow up question by a journolist who asked about the Chocolate statement. He asked the questioner "do you know anything about chocolate" "it's made by taking dark chocolate and mixing it with white milk to make something that's really good". I don't know if that's genuine or the follow up was a back peddle, some pretty poor judgement though.
There's enough of that to go around too though.

Oh, I think he was clearly in damage control mode. He used and meant it in an exclusionary manner.

Sad really, he and white guy Pat Robertson seem to have so much in common. They might be come fast friends!

[Delthefunky]

You must be talking about Kanye West saying "George Bush Hates Black People" ...

I think he was outraged because he felt that because New Orleans was a predominantly black community, it was treated differently then a white community.

There's no doubt that Nagin has to take his share of the blame, but I too feel that if the USA was not in Iraq that many resources would have been immediately available, and the National Response was far far too slow.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

And what would that black singer who said "Bush doesn't like blacks" have to say about Mayor Nagin. "Nothing," I would imagine.