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[longsuffering]

Because the state of California executed a 76 year old man. Not an anti-death penalty post really, although it is ironic that the US is essentially the only 'civilized' country still employing the death penalty, but all that aside, what's the point?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

[ken0042]

The point is he killed 3 people- was convicted 25 years ago. That is plenty of time for appeals, DNA evidence, etc.

Should they have execyted him the day he was found guilty? Would that have been better?

[Cowperson]

Allen was sentenced to death in 1982, after his conviction for arranging a triple murder. He orchestrated the 1980 murders from Folsom State Prison, where he was serving a life sentence for the 1974 slaying of his son's girlfriend, Mary Sue Kitts. He murdered Kitts to prevent her from testifying in a burglary case against him.

While serving time for that crime, he offered another inmate, Billy Ray Hamilton, $25,000 to kill eight people who had testified against him in the Kitts case. After getting out of prison, Hamilton killed one of the witnesses, Bryon Schletewitz, 27, whose father owned a store Allen had burglarized, and two market employees, Josephine Rocha, 17, and 18-year-old Douglas White. Hamilton shot Rocha as she begged him not to.

Well, **** him. Lets hope the needle hurt too.

Cowperson

[transplant99]

Just because he was 76, and the crime happened over 20 years ago, doesnt take away from the fact that this guy wreaked a lot of havoc on a lot of families.

No sympathy on this one from me.

[CarlW]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

although it is ironic that the US is essentially the only 'civilized' country still employing the death penalty

Whats your criteria for 'civilized' country? Singapore has the death penalty, the Caribbean islands do, China does. I don't see how any of these countries are less civilized then the US.

[Hakan]

We all know the purpose of the state is to enact vengeance and more murder.

Hooray for death penalty.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by CarlW

Whats your criteria for 'civilized' country? Singapore has the death penalty, the Caribbean islands do, China does. I don't see how any of these countries are less civilized then the US.

China?

Isn't China a second or third world country?

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by evman150

China?

Isn't China a second or third world country?

There are certain rural parts of China where you might think that, but the urban centres are ultra-modern and thriving. I'm sure you know they have the fastest growing economy in the world

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by CarlW

Whats your criteria for 'civilized' country? Singapore has the death penalty, the Caribbean islands do, China does. I don't see how any of these countries are less civilized then the US.

Right you are, putting these countries on a par with the US demonstrates that the US has a second rate civilization.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Well, **** him. Lets hope the needle hurt too.

Cowperson

Apparently.... someone was thinking the same thing..

Death row elder needed 2 injections


http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/17/al....ap/index.html

And what a bad photoshop cut... or whatever they did..

[CaptainCrunch]

no sympathy for this guy, he was a stone cold killer, and when he couldn't do the job, he paid other people to do it for him. This should be an execution that nobody should have trouble with.

This scumbag is being given the orientation tour of hell right now.

[Jayems]

I say send em over to Iraq, put them in downtown Baghdad with a big american flag and let the insurgents do the rest.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Because the state of California executed a 76 year old man. Not an anti-death penalty post really, although it is ironic that the US is essentially the only 'civilized' country still employing the death penalty, but all that aside, what's the point?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

Japan just upheld the death penalty for a guy who kidnapped, raped, murdered and then mutilated 3 7-8 year old girls.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

There are certain rural parts of China where you might think that, but the urban centres are ultra-modern and thriving. I'm sure you know they have the fastest growing economy in the world

You can say that about any country though. Every country has their rich elite, bourgeoisie if you will. But as a whole China is a second if not third world country. And yes I know it has the fastest growing economy.

The level that a society is at is not judged by the top tier, but by the life of the average resident of that country.

Average Canadian/American/British/etc life: Good.
Average Chinese life: ****ty.

[rockstar]

Would have been more appropriate to let him rot in prison 'til he died, IMO.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Because the state of California executed a 76 year old man. Not an anti-death penalty post really, although it is ironic that the US is essentially the only 'civilized' country still employing the death penalty, but all that aside, what's the point?

The point is that justice must be served. If all it took to not get the death penalty is to get old, that's what the prisoners on death row would be doing.

[Displaced Flames fan]

The fact that he orchestrated the murders of 3 people FROM PRISON because one of them was a witness in his original murder trial leaves me baffled that they didn't execute him earlier. Clearly, this man was a danger to society incarcerated or not.

Did you even read the background of the case or did you just see...76 years old...executed ....US and start preaching?